Your vote for President is the swing vote, the entire election depends on it.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

It is November 2016, somehow you have found out that the entire election for President is down to YOUR one vote.


Democratic candidate is Hillary

Republican candidate is any republican


You can vote 3rd party, not at all, or for either candidate.

Because of the math if you do NOT vote for Hillary, the republican (whether that be Scott Walker or Jeb Bush or whoever) wins.

What do you do?

[AuntPatsy]

2. in 17 months time I am sure you would get much more accurate answers...

Right now I have a feeling this op is simply instigating ... No offense I promise...

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

3. I am sincerely curious what they say today, and maybe you are right about one

thing, maybe after watching and hearing the insane, horrific, nightmares the republican has in store for us, will matter.

The more people watch and hear the Cruz and Rubio and Walker's, etal, the more I would assume my question is a no brainer.

[Katashi_itto]

76. Hmm tough call. I would go have waffles.

Then Kendo Practice.

[Agschmid]

88. I feel you are an Aunt Jemima kind of person...

If you get what I am saying.

[Katashi_itto]

92. Actually no i don't. Still trying to figure out if your making some sort of racist reference.

New Racism Museum Reveals the Ugly Truth Behind Aunt Jemima
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/04/new-racism-museum-reveals-the-ugly-truth-behind-aunt-jemima/256185/

[Agschmid]

93. Lol, no not racist.

[cali]

4. this is so silly, I'm gobsmacked

What if the moon was made of green cheese?

[frylock]

47. If the moon was made of spare ribs, would ya eat it?

https://screen.yahoo.com/harry-caray-space-infinite-frontier-000000505.html

[whatchamacallit]

5. As if we don't know what comes next in this useless exercise

-> Then vote as if that were the case... Blah blah..

[arcane1]

10. Indeed, I'm hoping this is the most ridiculous OP I'll read all day.

[JaneyVee]

6. It would be my dream for an entire election to come down to my one vote.

[snooper2]

7. As I took off to go to the polls a truck lost a load of scrap and popped two of my tires

I've only got 50 minutes to get to my polling place 13 minutes away-

If I post a thread in GD how fast will the closest DU'er to Wylie TX get to me!

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

8. That is what I thought....personally, as a Bernie supporter, if this happened to me,

I would vote for Hillary.


But then I am a liberal and a Democrat.
and no, I wont stop asking these type of questions...if I die I hope someone else asks them so we can see what we can see

[pintobean]

18. If only DU could live up to your expectations.

Your martyr routine is lame. We've all seen this movie before.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

20. Why are you so bothered by my pro Democratic Party posts?

I have also noticed how bothered you are when I say other liberal stuff too.

But what is it about my aggressive support for the DEMOCRATIC PARTY that upsets you so much?

[pintobean]

25. About your aggressiveness?

Funny how you often answer your own questions.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

29. So you dont like aggressive supporters of the Democratic Party?

[4139]

9. Hillary will not be the Democratic candidate...

So the question is silly

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

13. Who will it be? I am curious, since the person who is the most popular is Hillary, and you think

I am silly for stating that fact, who would it be then?



BTW, I wish it would be Grayson or Sanders or Barbara Lee even, but if it is Hillary, well, you know.

[4139]

31. I wish for warren but likely will be O'Malley ...

Hillary did not and doesn't run the Clinton Foundations, but it appears to have been mismanaged. How much money was raised and how much actually made it to the needy is an open question.

Not her fault... But I think the foundation will be compared to a Nigerian Prince.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

33. WOW that was FAST LOL my god

I hope everybody else sees what I am seeing

let me bring attention to it

[zappaman]

35. Oh I see it.

[4139]

40. ?

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

41. How did you ascertain that these allegations against Hillary, by a KNOWN liar, are true?

Even if you forget who wrote the book and made the allegations, how in the world did YOU figure this out already?

[4139]

78. Not him, but guidestar.org

Do the math:
2012
http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2012/311/580/2012-311580204-09d3e966-9.pdf

2011
http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2011/311/580/2011-311580204-08d3f620-9.pdf

[Agschmid]

91. Can you just lay it out for me...

[4139]

96. Only 12 to 15 cents of every dollar donated go to grants/programs ...

and spending 2 1/2 to 3 times as much on salaries as on program/grants.

They're very high on overhead, and very low on grants/programs

[JaneyVee]

42. What are tonights lottery numbers?

[sabrina 1]

11. That is assuming Hillary will be the nominee. That is looking a bit less likely now with

at least one other very good Democrat already taking support from her, getting ready to announce.

We have a long, long way to go before the election.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. I love goofy hypotheticals.

What would you do if your house was on fire and you had to choose between saving your wife or your kid?

What would you do if you had to choose being stung by a stingray or listen to disco for eternity?

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

14. So you wont answer it, I will put you down in the "wont vote for Hillary no matter what"

column


I am known for these questions and I am known for pissing of the anti Hillary crowd

[NCTraveler]

17. And the pro-Hillary crowd. nt.

[pintobean]

27. +1

[morningfog]

58. *snort*

That was funny.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. If I'm ever in the position of my vote deciding an election I'll get back to you with my choice.

I am absolutely positive that the election won't hinge on my one vote.

But, you're probably right about my voting possibilities. I won't vote for Hillary. But, do get back to me if my vote swings the election.

So, can I put you in the wife column or kid column?

Stingray or Disco?

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

24. there is a part of me that simply cant let this pass.

I think it is because this is supposed to be a board for democrats and liberals.

Aster explaining 300 times why there is a massive difference, especially on social issues, between the two, and a person still insisting that since they cant get the exact thing they want they will throw all that in the shit can, just a part of me cant accept that


I especially want to try and create a way to identify people who voted that way if the election is lost, maybe not by name because that would be too much, but like the PUMA deal, we need an acronym and name for people who will literally throw women, minorities, gays and the poor into the ditch because they couldnt get everything they wanted.

We need a name to hang on those people and we need it soon.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

30. Hippies? Commies? Reds? Dissenters? Freethinkers?

It's been done before. Maybe you can come up with something new and eye-catching.

Of course, you can always rely on (EEK!!) Naderites.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

32. You really shouldnt use words like that, trust me on this one.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

34. Why not? Will I be beheaded?

I'm a Democrat. But, I have the archaic notion that my vote belongs to me not The Party, or you, or DU, or anyone else, to do with as I choose.

I've voted in 24 federal elections and not once did my vote have any effect on the outcome.

How about you and your votes?

[arcane1]

26. Mission accomplished: you got your chance to accuse a DUer of supporting republicans.

Congratulations

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

28. bullshit, i asked a question

and that person answered it, honestly

and I stated a FACT after that

You see to me losing that election to the cons is life and death, so i will not apologize for fighting for it thusly

[merrily]

54. Sorry to disappoint you, but this OP is way too corny and lame to piss anyone off.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

55. LOL., another excellent non answer. Hey, I get it. believe me

[merrily]

57. Apparently not.

[KMOD]

46. I wanna say disco,

but I don't know about the eternity part. hmmmmm

OK, sting me with a stingray.

[Capt. Obvious]

15. Is Nader on the ballot?

[pintobean]

22. And is it a butterfly ballot?

Voting is hard.

[NCTraveler]

16. Depends.

I would be considered very valuable. Politics would finally pay off for me in the form of cash. I imagine I would be given a couple of well paid speaking engagements at the least. Off to the highest bidder.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

23. LOL, not bad

[mmonk]

21. The old ticking time bomb scenario.

[MoonRiver]

36. Food for thought, even if early.

But wait, is it ever too early when the fate of the world may depend on the decision?

[brooklynite]

37. It doesn't matter...the Republicans yanked your voter registration...

...and you left your Driver's License in the suit you took to the Dry Cleaners, so you can't prove your identification.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

39. This is one of the reasons I get so god damn angry, do these people who will NOT vote for Hillary

no matter what (they are the ONLY people I am addressing) understand that the cons are going to stop millions of us from voting?

[One of the 99]

38. Do what Nader voters have been doing since 2000

Refuse to take responsibility for their actions.

[frylock]

48. I blame the 200,000+ registered Dems in FL that CONSCIOUSLY voted for Bush..

for keeping it close enough for SCOTUS to steal it, but I'm weird that way.

[One of the 99]

65. They deserve most of the blame

but so does Nader.

[One of the 99]

66. The truth hurts

But Nader was a contributing factor to what happened in 2000.

[morningfog]

60. The fault of 2000 lies squarely with Bush, Harris and the SCOTUS.

2000 was stolen. Gore won the popular and electoral vote. Full fucking stop.

[One of the 99]

64. It never would have gotten to the Supreme Court

if not for Nader.

[morningfog]

67. So you think it was a legitimate theft?

[One of the 99]

68. It was an illegitimate theft

No question Bush and the Supreme Court stole it. But they never would have had the opportunity to steal it if not for Nader.

[morningfog]

77. Nothing matters but the theft.

[One of the 99]

79. That's myopia

The theft matters most. But everything leading to it matters too.

[morningfog]

81. You legitimize and defend the theft if you spread the blame.

The blame rest solely with thieves.

[One of the 99]

83. Not at all

That's just a rationalization so Nader voters don't have to take responsibility for their actions.

[morningfog]

84. So you think close elections are properly stolen?

There was nothing illegal in Nader's run or people voting for Nader. There was one group, one party who stole the election.

There were thousands of factors that made the election close. But only one theft.

By the way, I voted for Gore and was incensed when Bush stole the election, and still am really.

[One of the 99]

85. No.

Nor did I say that Nader's run was illegal. (Although I question his ethics in accepting GOP money to run attack ads against Gore.)

I'm just saying that Nader and his voters should take some responsibility for their actions in helping to put the 2000 election so close that it made it possible for Bush to steal it. They are not the only factor in that, there were many others as well. But Nader and his voters were still a factor and should stop avoiding responsibility for their part and coming up with excuses to blame everyone else.

[morningfog]

86. Voters exercising their rights have no responsibility for Bush's theft of the election.

[One of the 99]

87. True

But they have responsibility for the consequences of their vote. In this case the consequence was putting the election so close that enabled Bush to steal it.

Take Florida out of it and look at New Hampshire, Nader's vote threw that state to Bush. Bush only beat Gore by 7,000 votes yet there were over 22,000 for Nader. If only a third of those people had voted for Gore rather than Nader; New Hampshire would have gone to Gore and made Florida irrelevant.

[morningfog]

90. If you are going down that route, the blame is with Gore for not campaigning better and earning

more votes. Or in Florida, the blame is with the bad ballots in Broward County that recorded Gore votes for Buchanan. Or blame the weather.

I refuse to blame anyone other than Bush and his cohorts. Any other blame or responsibility-shifting is providing Bush with cover and is a horrible distraction.

[One of the 99]

94. All factors in that election.

And all should take responsibility for their actions, including Nader voters.

[LanternWaste]

43. Avoid pretending I know what I'd do eighteen months from the present

"What do you do?"

Avoid pretending I know what I'd do eighteen months from the present in a hypothetical scenario crafted to be divisive yet creatively rationalized as something else entirely.

[Orsino]

44. I cast a spell at the darkness!

And elect our goddamned nominee, of course.

[daleanime]

45. Realize that we are already......

screwed.

[hifiguy]

50. Yep.

Because this is that choice in shorthand:

[One_Life_To_Give]

51. Let the Bidding begin

Reinstate Glass Steagall, breakup any "Too Big to Fail" institutions. Good start Ms presumptive president, how about cap the ratio of CEO to avg employee wage for the win?

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

56. I am all for that, maybe since she says it is time to topple the one percent,who knows

[merrily]

52. Oh, the drama!

Let's talk again when Boston goes for a Republican President by one vote.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/06/13-counties-that-may-deci_n_2083011.html

[Agnosticsherbet]

53. Is the primary over already?

I didn't even get a chance to vote.

That said, In the general election I will vote for the Democratic nominee, because there will be a Democrat or a Republican elected.

[morningfog]

59. How could my vote be both a swing vote that

would lead to a Hillary win, but also lead to a republican win if I abstain?

[merrily]

61. Just accept that if you don't vote for Hillary, the world as you know it will end.

Or not.

[historylovr]

62. Careful. The OP is taking names.

You don't want to get the stink-eye, do ya?

[arcane1]

63. They're making a list, and checking it twice!

Hmm... perhaps "Naughty" is the epithet they're looking for in post 24?

[pintobean]

69. "this is supposed to be a board for democrats and liberals"

From the OP's post #24. He says stuff like that a lot. Attacking DU from the left seems to be a sport.

[jmowreader]

70. Obviously vote for Hillary

"Any Republican" is going to be a Lovecraftian nightmare. If our choices are Hillary Clinton or some guy who's going to start four wars, ban any vestige of religious or social freedom that conflicts with the King James Bible and run this nation into a very deep economic hole then fill the hole in, then there's no choice at all.

Now...here's a FUN exercise.

It's a four-way race. Your choices are:

Hillary Clinton and...I don't know, one of the Castro brothers maybe?...on the Democratic ticket.

Any two Republicans selected at random on the GOP ticket. Since all Republicans are basically alike, the names don't matter.

A leftist third-party...say, Bernie Sanders plus a native-born person whose politics mirror those of Seattle city councilperson Kshama Sawant. Their ticket would feature a lot of issues we'd like, such as defense cuts, gay marriage everywhere and legal pot but also some we wouldn't, like a 50-percent increase in the income tax and a doubling of H1B quotas.

A right-wing third party...They'll close Gitmo and end the war in Afghanistan but they'll also try for a "personhood" amendment, end birthright citizenship and declare the US a Christian nation.

If my one vote would put any of the four in office, without knowing any more than is written here I'd have to choose the leftist third party, then Hillary, next the Republican and finally the "Constitution" Party candidate. But if it's "If I vote for Hillary we get President Clinton and if I vote for anyone else I get President Trump and Vice President Rubio," there's no question that my vote has to go to Hillary.

[TheKentuckian]

71. I'll entertain offers and they better be good.

[liberal_at_heart]

72. I will vote for Bernie Sanders even if I have to write his name in.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

73. I will work twice as hard getting people to vote so your vote defaulting to the right

will be countered.

[liberal_at_heart]

74. good for you. And I will work twice as hard to make sure there are 4 people to out vote your

votes. Geez. I'm getting so tired of the childish games around here. It's time to put more people on ignore. Bye-bye.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

75. Bye bye (BTW, Bernie will vote for Hillary so he can make up your vote)

[marmar]

80. Hoo boy.

[LWolf]

82. Hypothetically, of course, in this

bizzaro hypothetical universe, I vote for the candidate on the ballot I feel would benefit the nation and the planet the best.

Of course, that's what I always do.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

89. Withhold my vote and watch the country descend into anarchy.

[karynnj]

95. my vote in Vermont will not be a decider.

But if it makes you happy I will vote for her as I did for her husband. Only years later did I learn that I could have whined that I was anybody but Bush. Even though that makes no sense in the general election that didn't stop b
Begala and Carville.

Now it is almost a year before the primaries. She will almost certainly be the nominee. Still harassing people who will vote for her in the general election is counterproductive.