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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am pro comprehensive sex edication. I beleive it empowers everyone and prevents unwanted pregnancy
All unwanted pregnancies should be rare whether the woman in question choses to carry it to term. And that is her choice and nobody else's.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Surely that implies a less than 100% success rate for birth control?
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Joanie Baloney
(1,357 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Like yourself. Welcome to du.
Joanie Baloney
(1,357 posts)And I don't know what spellcheck comments have to do with humanitarianism, but fine. Your message is detoured by your laziness.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)Sweet takedown Joanie.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Spellchick.
Joanie Baloney
(1,357 posts)I am honored.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Just do not go to the doctor.
Novara
(5,843 posts)....by the availability and use of birth control. Wake up - this is not a perfect world where everyone uses perfect birth control perfectly 100% of the time and there is a zero failure rate. This is not a perfect world where women are not raped. This is not a perfect world where there is no incest, no coerced sex in relationships, no drunken couplings, ho casual hookups, etc. Wake up. Your ideal world where abortion is "preventable" doesn't exist.
It is enshrined in law. It is a legal and safe procedure. Those who wish it away aren't living in reality.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Saying it's "preventable" is victim blaming, pure and simple.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)which means comprehensive knowledge of bc.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Limitations, such as people who are allergic to latex, can't take the Pill, and the failure rates of each form of bc.
You talk as if there would never be an unwanted pregnancy if every understood sex ed and birth control. That's completely unrealistic because bc has failure rates.
That must be the class you missed.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I reject it, as well as an advice you have for those of us who have long fought for abortion rights.
cali
(114,904 posts)do with defending HRC's "rare, legal and safe" rhetoric than anything else.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)to thank you for your fantastic posts on abortion.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)We're all political junkies here and we all have specific topics about which we are especially passionate, this is mine.
As frustrating as it can be to debate with some, it's incredibly empowering to have the discussions with people who share my passion.
So, thanks.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)but I think it was preventable and you should be counseled about alternatives.
onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)Decide to be necessary. Why do people think having a vagina and uterus make one incapable of making their own fucking decisions?
roody
(10,849 posts)and accurate sex education and full reproductive health care which of course includes abortion.
Trillo
(9,154 posts)One of the tweets:
"The regular health teacher in trying to shut my kid up
referred to "LGBYT." And how the board decides what
we learn.
Sexual education is about more than just birth control.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)AwakeAtLast
(14,130 posts)Excellent point!
eggplant
(3,911 posts)New to abortion funding? Its all here where we are, how we got here, and how we can reverse more than three decades of discrimination against women living in poverty. Sure, theres a lot you can learn, but the most important thing is what you already know: Womens lives matter. Thats why we need to fund abortion. Its why we need to overturn the Hyde Amendment and every other obstacle that stands between a woman and the abortion she needs. Its why we need you.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)We have a winner.
cali
(114,904 posts)legal or not.
Abortion services need to be broadly available and have ease of access.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)It is why we need comprehensive sex education in our schools. It will reduce the number of abortions simply because an invasive medical procedure will have been rendered less necessary.
cali
(114,904 posts)because that right has all but vanished for millions. Btw, a large percentage of abortions are not surgical.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)I live in Texas where it under assault big time. This is also abstinence education country. Bad mix. Lots of unwanted pregnancies with no abortion option very sad.
cali
(114,904 posts)I live in Vermont. No abortion restrictions, good access. I hate what's going on in your state and so many others.
AwakeAtLast
(14,130 posts)Incest?
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)And teenagers are famous for being reckless and believing they're invincible
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Plus - Sweden. They have phenomenal sex education AND the highest abortion rate in the region.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)just stop. Please.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Stop acting like it's something shameful that only happens to ignorant uneducated people.
Just stop.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)is not only opposed to abortion, but to all contraception including condoms and his Church teaches people condoms do not help prevent HIV transmission but actually spread HIV. They offer dishonest, pernicious, dogmatic sex education, no contraception and no disease prevention knowledge, and yet you have in fact spoken of him as a radical reformer, dismissing his aggressive anti sex ed, anti contraception, anti choice AND anti abortion teachings as somehow not as important as him saying one day on his private plane that he considers those with less from time to time, while auditing the massive wealth of his personal Bank at the Vatican....
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Thank you, Bluenorthwest.
I was wondering where this was coming from.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)however odd.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)They should outllaw those dam intertubes I tells ya! Dam kids and their dam sexting!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I think you forget they days of back alley abortions. They are back. All the education in the world wont make abortion rare. This moralizing about how rare they should be allows assholes to limit access based on their silly ass archaic rules about sexuality and morals.
I think you need to educate yourself instead of moralizing about how rare you want it to be. I don't give two shits about how rare you'd prefer it to be. I care that women have full access without your shaming them on how rare it needs to be. Moralizing prigs are annoying. Moralizing and shit leads to coathangars and knitting needle abortions on kitchen tables. Shit.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Thank you.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)You are awesome.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Vaginal ultrasound, heh
bravenak
(34,648 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Amen, bravenak.
Moralizing prigs moralize from a place of privilege.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)That shit is getting tired as hell.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Outstanding point!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Maybe this part of the op's 'education' was lacking in the details of the reality of abortion prohibition.
smokey nj
(43,853 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)I guess the op didn't like it tho.
cali
(114,904 posts)Has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)But I'm thankful abortion was easy and affordable when I wanted one. I became sexually active when birth control pills required your husbands permission and abortion was illegal. I support birth control and abortion available for all women who want it for any reason and that it be safe and affordable.
My grandmother had an abortion in the 1930's it almost killed her.