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self delete (Original Post) elehhhhna Apr 2015 OP
There are significantly more white people in this country. boston bean Apr 2015 #1
Of course they do, you're comparing 15% of the population to more than 50%. LeftyMom Apr 2015 #2
link? bigtree Apr 2015 #3
Caucs? Codeine Apr 2015 #4
are you confused by this? have I microaggressioned you or something? elehhhhna Apr 2015 #7
It's just straight up dumb. nt Codeine Apr 2015 #10
Thank you. Once you notice this coy bullshit.... bettyellen Apr 2015 #27
Indeed. nt Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #35
"have I microaggressioned you or something?" demmiblue Apr 2015 #16
+1 gollygee Apr 2015 #18
Lol! cwydro Apr 2015 #19
Wow! Idiotic meaningless OP followed up with contempt shown for POC who dare to complain. bettyellen Apr 2015 #28
"Per capita" is your statistical friend, anything else actually is deception. 21x more likely to be killed is a fact. Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #5
yep. just pointing out this cuts across all races elehhhhna Apr 2015 #6
It cuts across the black race 21x deeper, is the point you may be missing. Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #8
Stats is hard :( NuclearDem Apr 2015 #9
Got a True link? GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #11
?? I've read that one problem is that no statistics are kept on cop killings. Vinca Apr 2015 #12
We passed a law in December to require data collection in all cases of death in custody... Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #13
That's only 5 months ago. Not much to go on for now. Vinca Apr 2015 #34
US cops kill a lot of people. lovemydog Apr 2015 #14
Per capita? NightWatcher Apr 2015 #15
What about the white people? gollygee Apr 2015 #17
You should delete this. It's inaccurate in that it in no way reflects on the cali Apr 2015 #20
"reads like" gollygee Apr 2015 #21
How many were unarmed? Plus, Black = 14% of pop. White = 70+% of pop. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #22
True fact: This OP is dumb. justiceischeap Apr 2015 #23
Caucasians kill more cops by a large margin? Not that large... XemaSab Apr 2015 #24
Embarrassing to see the ignorance of statistical probability- self delete? bettyellen Apr 2015 #25
Simple demographics. MineralMan Apr 2015 #26
Ugh, elehhhna, no... stevenleser Apr 2015 #29
Doh! AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #30
There are a lot of white people jberryhill Apr 2015 #31
Maybe in a super white state like Utah libodem Apr 2015 #32
yeah sure heaven05 Apr 2015 #33

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
2. Of course they do, you're comparing 15% of the population to more than 50%.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 10:21 PM
Apr 2015

That's why what you need to look at are the PER CAPITA numbers.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
3. link?
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 10:25 PM
Apr 2015
MoJones:

• The Justice Department's Bureau of Justice Statistics reports that between 2003 and 2009 there were more than 2,900 arrest-related deaths involving law enforcement. Averaged over seven years, that's about 420 deaths a year. While BJS does not provide the annual number of arrest-related deaths by race or ethnicity, a rough calculation based on its data shows that black people were about four times as likely to die in custody or while being arrested than whites.

The CDC's cause-of-death data, based on death certificates collected at the state level, also reveals a profound racial disparity among the victims of police shootings. Between 1968 and 2011, black people were between two to eight times more likely to die at the hands of law enforcement than whites. Annually, over those 40 years, a black person was on average 4.2 times as likely to get shot and killed by a cop than a white person. The disparity dropped to 2-to-1 between 2003 and 2009, lower than the 4-to-1 disparity shown in the BJS data over those same years. The CDC's database of emergency room records also shows similar racial disparities among those injured by police.

However, these numbers provide an extremely limited view of the lethal use of force by law enforcement. For reasons that have been outlined by USA Today, Vox, FiveThirtyEight, the Washington Post, The Atlantic, and others, the FBI data is pretty unreliable and represents a conservative estimate. Some 18,000 agencies contribute to the FBI's broader crime reporting program, but only about 750 reported their justifiable homicide figures in 2012. New York state, for example, does not report justifiable homicides to the FBI, according to bureau spokesman Stephen G. Fischer Jr.

HuffPo:

Young black males in recent years were at a far greater risk of being shot dead by police than their white counterparts – 21 times greater i, according to a ProPublica analysis of federally collected data on fatal police shootings.

The 1,217 deadly police shootings from 2010 to 2012 captured in the federal data show that blacks, age 15 to 19, were killed at a rate of 31.i7 per million, while just 1.47 per million white males in that age range died at the hands of police.

The finding that young black men are 21 times as likely as their white peers to be killed by police is drawn from reports filed for the years 2010 to 2012, the three most recent years for which FBI numbers are available.


Pro Publica
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
27. Thank you. Once you notice this coy bullshit....
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:45 AM
Apr 2015

It's hard not to notice how pervasive it is here. The feigned ignorance and mocking.

demmiblue

(36,858 posts)
16. "have I microaggressioned you or something?"
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:11 AM
Apr 2015

That certainly explains your (dumbass & ill-informed) op and the motivation behind it.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
28. Wow! Idiotic meaningless OP followed up with contempt shown for POC who dare to complain.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:50 AM
Apr 2015

What the fuck is this meaningless and racially divisive drivel doing in GD?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. "Per capita" is your statistical friend, anything else actually is deception. 21x more likely to be killed is a fact.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 10:36 PM
Apr 2015
 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
6. yep. just pointing out this cuts across all races
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 10:45 PM
Apr 2015

Ain't nobody safe when you meet a cranky or roided cop

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. It cuts across the black race 21x deeper, is the point you may be missing.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 10:47 PM
Apr 2015

Bigtree's post says it all.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. We passed a law in December to require data collection in all cases of death in custody...
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:03 AM
Apr 2015

Death In Custody Reporting Act of 2013, Signed by the President on Dec 18, 2014.
"Over the weekend, tens of thousands of marchers rallied against police brutality, standing in solidarity with families who have lost loved ones to police violence. With public scrutiny zeroed in on deaths at the hands of law enforcement, one thing is noticeably missing: a federal record of just how many people die in police custody each year.

This, however, could be changing. Last week, Congress passed the Death in Custody Reporting Act of 2013. Currently awaiting Obama's signature, it mandates that states receiving federal criminal justice assistance grants report, by gender and race, all deaths that occur in law enforcement custody, including any while a person is being detained or arrested. This would include events like the deaths of Eric Garner and Michael Brown, says Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), a sponsor of the bill, in an interview with Mother Jones.

The bill also mandates that federal law enforcement agencies annually gather and report these deaths to the US attorney general, who in turn has two years to analyze the data, determine if and how it can be used to reduce the number of such deaths, and file a report to Congress."
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/12/death-custody-reporting-act-police-shootings-ferguson-garner

Legislative details here:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr1447

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
20. You should delete this. It's inaccurate in that it in no way reflects on the
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:19 AM
Apr 2015

reality of police targeting black people.

White people are something like 70% of the population.

Your post reads like an attempt to minimize- an ugly distraction.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
25. Embarrassing to see the ignorance of statistical probability- self delete?
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:43 AM
Apr 2015

It's possible you were fooled by the article, in which case it would be awesome if you removed this crap from GD.
You've been punked!

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
26. Simple demographics.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 10:44 AM
Apr 2015

You should self-delete your post. It is simply incorrect and based on no knowledge of statistics or demographics.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
31. There are a lot of white people
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:07 AM
Apr 2015

Statements of the form "More white people are _____ than any other group" are often likely to be true, for the trivial reason that there are more white people.

It's the RATE that matters.

For example, most auto accidents occur within 20 miles of your home.

That doesn't mean you are safer in your car when you are far away. You may actually be a lot less safe, because you are in an unfamiliar area, and more likely to make a mistake and get into an accident.

The thing is, you do most of your DRIVING within 20 miles of your home, and that skews the lower probability of actually having an accident to result in a higher raw number of accidents within that 20 miles.

It's like the guy who found out that statistic, and then moved 30 miles away to be safe. It just doesn't work that way.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
32. Maybe in a super white state like Utah
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:57 AM
Apr 2015

They seem to have a Mormon Superiority Authoritarian Complex. They have vicious white cop on white civilian crime stats.

That shouldn't undermine the crucial problem of white cops indiscriminately shooting black men in the back. Who wouldn't effing run from the tazering motherfuckers?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
33. yeah sure
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:58 AM
Apr 2015

there's more of them, still. Percentages, percentages, percentages......all that matters. Also give me figures on unarmed people (white) versus unarmed people(black) being shot by police. How about some 'facts' on that? I'll be looking it up also, by the way.

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