Hillary Clinton updates her logo to support same-sex marriage

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Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton changed her avatar on her Twitter and Facebook pages on Tuesday, when the Supreme Court will hear historic arguments in cases that could make same-sex marriage the law of the land.

The justices will indicate where they stand in the dispute over whether states can continue defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman, or whether the Constitution gives gay and lesbian couples the right to marry.

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[el_bryanto]

1. That's a nice touch and a good sentiment. nt

[Fred Sanders]

2. The very thought of even the remotest possibility of a Republican President.....shudder.

[Thinkingabout]

3. A good leader leads in our evolving world, if she thinks this is good maybe some one else will

Believe also.

[jeff47]

5. Yes, changing a logo's color scheme is how you demonstrate leadership.

Or making a statement in 1999. That shows leadership.

Crazy things like introducing a bill to repeal DADT or legalize "gay marriage" while you're in Congress? No, that isn't leadership.

[Bluenorthwest]

7. Hi, as a Straight White Man, you might not have noticed that up until Bill and Hillary Clinton,

national Democrats either said nothing or spoke poorly of LGBT people. They were the first to include us. When they did so, Webb, Chafee and Warren were all three of them Republicans, the most anti gay Party in it's most anti gay period.
So that's the fact.

[jeff47]

8. It's also the fact that speeches are worth the air they are written on.

Making a nice speech is a step forward.

Proposing legislation when you are in Congress is a much larger step forward. Proposing unpopular legislation that will not pass, but is the right thing to do, is leadership.

Slapping on a rainbow flag while waiting for others to do what is right is not leadership.

[LordGlenconner]

10. I think you mean "the paper they're written on"

[jeff47]

37. Nope. Paper has value. (nt)

[LordGlenconner]

49. Except one doesn't write on air

Because it's impossible.

I'll leave you to your fantasy, though.

[jeff47]

54. Do I really have to link a picture of skywriters? (nt)

[Jamastiene]

79. You'd be wasting your time if you did.

When people refuse to address what you say, you are wasting your time. Their mind is made up. I get what you are saying though. I'm sick of words and want to see actions. I hope to see full equality in my lifetime, but America evolves so slow. And if corporations hadn't started doing it first, you can bet our government would never have start moving the tiny tad bit that it has.

[msanthrope]

13. HRC'S chief of staff was openly gay, and she refused calls to fire him

by congressional Republicans. she basically told them that she had prayed on it and that they needed to suck it up.


this was in the ninety's.

[jeff47]

40. And while she was in the senate?

2001-2009? When she could literally propose any legislation she wanted?

[msanthrope]

48. I suppose her vote against FMA didn't count? nt

[jeff47]

55. Not when your claim is leadership.

If all you're going for is "acceptable", then that's fine.

If you're claiming leadership, she should actually have demonstrated some leadership on some subject.

[pnwmom]

16. You also failed to notice that when DADT was enacted, it was a step FORWARD

for gay people. Before then gay people could be questioned about their orientation and discharged. DADT prevented that.

DADT was only a first step. But it was a significant step and it was in the right direction.

[yeoman6987]

28. Yep! You are 100 percent correct

I was in the military before and after DADT. It was a relief to have DADT. Yes it is even better today but DADT was a good start. I guess most don't understand that progress is a step forward and eventually you are there.

[jeff47]

38. No, you failed to notice that DADT was enacted in 1994, and Clinton was Senator in 2001

If she is supposed to be such a great leader on this, where is the evidence of her leadership? Where's the bills she proposed?

[DURHAM D]

44. You failed to notice that Bill Clinton

vigorously campaigned on a policy that gays would serve openly in the military. That was one of the very first things he tried to accomplish once he took office. The problem is two very well placed U.S. Senators (Nunn and Boren) who were both Democrats completely blocked it and finally the President had to settle for DADT comprise. It was better than previous policy but was not even implemented/applied in the manner in which it was written. You can thank Colin Powell for that.

Also, Kennedy, Biden and Moynihan were against gays serving openly. Pretty much all the Democrats in Congress wanted to show Clinton that he was just a hayseed from Arkansas and didn't meet their standard for who should qualify to live in the White House.

[Scootaloo]

52. I did not know Bill Clinton was seeking the presidency again

i thought a (bad) amendment was passed to prevent that from happening after FDR's four terms?

[jeff47]

56. And what does that have with Hillary Clinton's Senate career 7 years later?

Oh wait...nothing whatsoever.

Once again, the claim is that Clinton is showing "leadership" on LGBT issues. What bills did she propose while Senator to show that leadership?

[RiverNoord]

70. I expect that she simply signed off on a committee recommendation...

Her well-oiled machine of lots of well-paid advisers likely run these things through committees, then have her sign off on their decisions having already carefully prepared the mechanisms for implementing them, the talking points, the likely gain/loss parameters, etc.

Leadership actually means you 'lead.' It's right there in the word. In other words, you're right out there in front. Mrs. Clinton is not a leader. She's a first-rate follower, however, with an excellent sense of exactly the right moment to hop on a bandwagon...

[Hekate]

85. Thank you for setting the record straight, BNW. It's going to be a long slog. nt

[NYC_SKP]

89. Disagree. Jimmy Carter in 1976, and in 1980 the Democratic National Convention included Gay Rights.

Before that attempts were made to put gay rights into the platform.
Back in 1972, Madeline Davis argued for the party to embrace gay rights, the first time it was brought up in a major party platform debate.
Openly gay, she and Jim Foster were allowed to address the convention.

Glad that Bill and Hill spoke for us, but I won't give them credit for being the first. It's highly unlikely that his Democratic opponents, had they won, would have shied away from the matter.

On the 1980 convention: http://todayinclh.com/?event=democrats-add-homosexual-rights-plank-to-platform

[yardwork]

92. Spoke for us? Are you identifying as gay now?

What did I miss?

[NYC_SKP]

96. Hi Yardwork.

It's interesting that you should ask.

[secondwind]

102. Excellent post. thank you.

[Thinkingabout]

11. I refuse to follow bigotry, I have evolved on different situations and will continue.

I refuse to be negative, I am an optimist, I even hope for less negative thoughts.

[jeff47]

58. So to you "leadership" is slapping a rainbow palette on a logo? (nt)

[Thinkingabout]

59. I gathered from your post as slapping.

[jeff47]

61. Boy, your refusal to be negative lasted half a day. (nt)

[Thinkingabout]

63. Negative has nothing to do with you accusing me of something which is not true.

It's over, don't tell fibs on me, you know there is a thread to follow which shows what you say.

[jeff47]

71. What fib? You claimed Clinton's rainbow logo is Clinton showing leadership.

I'm asking where was that leadership when it could have actually changed things for the better?

The fib is.....?

Or did you miss the "to" in "So to you "leadership" is slapping a rainbow palette on a logo?"

[Cali_Democrat]

29. Hillary is a prominent politician

The fact that she is doing this is a good thing!

[jeff47]

57. And if "good thing" was all, that would be it.

But the claim above is slapping a rainbow palette on her logo shows how great a leader she is.

[Thinkingabout]

62. Slapping the rainbow palette was not by myself, you brought this up, I said it showed

leadership. Let's get this part clear.

[jeff47]

66. If she possesses so much leadership, why didn't she lead when she had the power

to actually change things? Why did she not lead by proposing legislation?

[Skinner]

4. And so does Democratic Underground:

My Profile > Avatar Image (Edit) > Logos >

[BeeBee]

15. Me likey... n/t

[seabeyond]

42. interesting. it is for real. i love coolest. i forgot to play with this.

i am ^L^O^V^I^N' this woman.

edit. i see. avatar. makes sense.

[NYC_SKP]

97. Gotta love that typeface thing!

^S^E^A^B^E^Y^O^N^D

[seabeyond]

98. ahhhhh

to be in such battle with so many of my ^F^A^V^S that i
^R^E^S^P^E^C^T

so

thank ^Y^O^U

for the



rainbow would have been cool.

[Orsino]

6. That IS nice.

Good 'un, Madame Secretary.

[RoccoR5955]

9. It still points to the right

If she was for WE THE PEOPLE, it would point to the LEFT!

[LanternWaste]

12. And there's red in it-- advertising her communism...

And there's red in it-- advertising her firm commitment to communism... (as we're reading melodramatic fiction into a logo, let's *really* go for it).

[RoccoR5955]

21. No it's red to attract red state teabaggers.

YOU wanted to REALLY go for it, so I did.

[Iliyah]

17. That darn arrow! Me, myself reads left to right.

Arrow going left to me means backwards. Arrow going right means forward. But that's just me.

[RoccoR5955]

22. to me, and on most road signs

UP means to go forward
DOWN means to go backwards
LEFT AND RIGHT are their respective directions.

[SunSeeker]

24. It's not a road sign. It's a symbol on a page.

In the English language, an arrow pointing to the right means forward, as text is read left to right. An arrow pointing up on a page means just that, up.

You sure twist yourself in knots trying to say how awful Hillary is.

[RoccoR5955]

46. Wait until Thursday! n/t

[L0oniX]

69. Wouldn't this be more representative?

[KittyWampus]

94. For Democratic Undergound this would be more representative

of the circular firing squad

[L0oniX]

67. Oh snap! Yes now all the Arab Americans will be insulted.

[Phlem]

87. It points in any direction I say it points!

[pnwmom]

18. It still points in the forward direction, like any timeline.

Going to the left on a historical timeline means going back to the past.

[RoccoR5955]

20. forward is a relative term. n/t

[hrmjustin]

19. it is just an arrow.

[okaawhatever]

39. No kidding. Sometimes an arrow is just an arrow. nt

[underpants]

27. .....but it goes to 11

[L0oniX]

65. LOL

[freshwest]

103. !!!111!!!!

[L0oniX]

64. In Australia it points the opposite way.

[RoccoR5955]

95. In England too.

Yeah, I can play your little game too!
Mrs. Clinton is not running in Australia nor is she running in England. I merely pointed this out, because the main place that most of us see arrows is on road signs.

[yardwork]

93. It's just a ruse to trick people into thinking she isn't really Muslim.

Hillary really reads her satanic verses right to left. This is a ruse. Don't tell anyone.

😉

[IronLionZion]

100. This proves she was born in Kenya!

[Zorra]

14. Now that...is a way cool avatar. nt

[samsingh]

23. kick. i love Hillary.

[SunSeeker]

25. K & R

[Cosmic Kitten]

26. Has she issued any statements?

I'm certain she issued a strongly
worded statement wherein she
loudly proclaimed her position
on the issue before SCOTUS...
right?

Ch>mpion said what?

[Metric System]

30. Like this? "Every loving couple & family deserves to be recognized & treated equally under the law

across our nation. #LoveMustWin #LoveCantWait"

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/593047280036511745

[Cali_Democrat]

31. Yes she has:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/04/hillary-clinton-same-sex-marriage-supreme-court

illary Clinton's now-official presidential campaign has so far opted for gauzy announcement videos and vague feel good promises over much in the way of policy specifics. But on Wednesday, Clinton's team clarified one stance she she will take: same-sex marriage is a constitutional right that should be legal in every state.

"Hillary Clinton supports marriage equality and hopes the Supreme Court will come down on the side of same-sex couples being guaranteed that constitutional right," campaign spokesperson Adrienne Elrod told The Washington Blade, referring to four cases on gay marriage the court is scheduled to hear later this month.

[Cosmic Kitten]

33. Yes, that is her *evolution* we have discussed here already

I was curious if her new logo
was accompanied by an
additional press release.

[NYC_SKP]

41. I believe, but can not confirm, that a Tweet was issued from the official HRC Twitter account.

Nothing yet on Instagram or SnapChat.

Stand by.

[Cosmic Kitten]

45. Can hardly wait!

It would be refreshing to see her
wade into an actual political fight,
on the correct side of history,
while it's happening...
not after the fact

[NYC_SKP]

47. I believe the current platform contains the following critical points:

-- America is awesome.

-- Bad guys, better look out!

-- Women, children, I am one and I have one.

-- Globalize everything!

-- Outsourcing is the new plaid!

-- Always get the the penthouse suite on the north side of the tower unless you're in the southern hemisphere.

-- How do you like me NOW?

-- OK then, how about NOW?

-- "It's your turn!"

[BrotherIvan]

86. omg that's funny

[progree]

32. Good. We can put the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), signed by Bill, behind us now

Or back in 2009...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Marriage_Act

On September 15, 2009, three Democratic members of Congress, Jerrold Nadler of New York, Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin, and Jared Polis of Colorado, introduced legislation to repeal DOMA called the Respect for Marriage Act. The bill had 91 original co-sponsors in the House of Representatives[68][69] and was supported by Clinton, Barr, and several legislators who voted for DOMA

The Clinton referred to in the above was apparently Bill Clinton -- Hillary wasn't in the Senate then.

[font color = red]On Edit[/font] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Hillary_Rodham_Clinton#LGBT_rights

[ChisolmTrailDem]

34. I'll giv'er a REC and KICK for THAT! nt

[Oktober]

35. Good enough... until focus groups say otherwise....

[leftofcool]

36. Love it!

[Warren DeMontague]

43. I like that one better.

[DreamSmoker]

50. bump

You Go Girl........
I cannot imagine anyone who has a heart would vote for any Republican.....
Its about love your neighbor.. Not slice dice and discriminate him or her...

[Prism]

51. This is very nice

[nolabear]

53. I like it! The idea of an evolving logo is genius if they do that.

^G^O ^H^I^L^L^A^R^Y

[L0oniX]

60. Ooops. Corrective pandering? Obvious after thought by her shit speak handlers.

What? She just found out about the SC's upcoming ruling? Or did she just forget to be inclusive of LGBT? What's next? She suddenly finds out she has Latino ancestors?

[Hekate]

88. Google Doodles. Look them up. They change all the time.

[L0oniX]

91. Google isn't running for POTUS.

[Cha]

68. And, the usual ugly dumps on a positive Hillary thread.

[zappaman]

73. It's pathetic.

Tedious and unsurprising.

[Cha]

75. Yes, and they did and do the same damn thing on President Obama threads. They doth

dump too much.

[hrmjustin]

74. As predictable as the sun rising.

[Cha]

76. Oh yeah, I got way beyond my fill of it on President Obama threads all these years.. Like your

new Avatar.. but, "it's still points to the right.. "

[hrmjustin]

77. I like it as well. Glad skinner added it.

[JaneyVee]

82. How does DU make even this controversial?

Mind-boggling.

[Cha]

83. that's who they are. They're "so confused".

[xfundy]

72. The arrow should have had the separation from the H

In the beginning. Reads much better.

[Mike Nelson]

78. A big reason to like this is...

...the Republican candidates could not do it and still win the primary. Great contrast of Dems vs. Repubs!

[Logical]

80. Wait...All the Hillary fans said a logo didn't matter at all. Now it does? So confused. nt

[Jamastiene]

81. That is a nice gesture on her part.

[Hekate]

84. Nice! Maybe her campaign can occasionally change it like Google Doodles!

[valerief]

90. She had to do something with that damn hospital parking logo. nt

[Gothmog]

99. I love this revised logo

[polynomial]

101. Many who have studied science

Know that when Newton introduced his calculus it was challenged in a hot debate. Many did not understand it, and still to this day many still don’t, however, this mathematics plunged ahead to solve science, physics, mechanics, chemistry, biology, and economics, besides Health Care issues.

The other day I watched an HBO clip of Bill Maher making fun of Hillary’s icon of the H symbol and Maher joking how it looks like a hospital road sign. It was a funny comment. It does, though from my view show that notion that accentuates Hillary’s work with Health Care back to 1992.

It seemed funny yet had a flare of creativity in several ways, but the bottom line applies to everyone that has modern dementia, or forgot about Hillary’s endeavor to reform Health Care. Especially, young adults that really appreciate our government services when in action, more so older persons like myself really need the support of good honest law with integrity.

I relate to this Health Care issue within America. Especially my own personal experience with the large transportation company call Union Pacific railroad were inner safety management and training persons through retribution and retaliation attempted to cloud an injury that I incurred on the job.

My personal experience was huge humiliation in character endured an investigation documented with entries and lies that would likely be included into the Health Care data base that would work through to the system of the United Health Care Company. These data skewed with lies would likely be used for determinations in National Heath Care analysis. How many other exist is troubling.

How many persons get what Americans call “Railroaded” in Health Care?

Should be interesting to find out how our government works. My OSHA complaint is within the agency, also opened communications to my State Senator.