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1handclapn

(105 posts)
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:30 PM Apr 2015

the cops created the "Riot" to draw attention away from killing Freddy and blame the poor for their

problems.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/04/how-baltimore-riots-began-mondawmin-purge

the cops are trained in mob psychology, and they created the elements and behaviors that create a mob. they kicked all the students off the busses at the mall hub and wouldn't let them leave to go home. then harassed them they charged any groups that gathered larger than 3. then the mayor said no one would be arrested for looting.. then the cops basically created.. see what we have to deal with everyday, we are the victims.!

all the people of color that were interviewed in a program on NPR said their problems with the cops weren't racial.. they were "Social class". they were creating a disenfranchised poverty class then bullying them for being poor.

this is simply validation of Jeff Sharlet's book "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power".
http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secret-Fundamentalism-Heart-American/dp/0060560053/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1430437688&sr=1-3&keywords=the+family

top richest 1% holds 43% of all financial wealth in America, top 10% holds 72%, richest 20% Americans hold 95.4% of all the financial wealth in America, leaving a Whopping 4.6% to the poorest 80%, and 2%-2.5% to the poorest 50%.

the GOP leadership is run by a shadow group that believes in Abraham Vereide's version of Christianity[he was a Nazi sympathizer], he emigrated here in 1935 ,he heard voices and god told him of his Great Plan for the Rich, they run the country in small secret "Dominionist Prayer Groups", they believe that wealth and power is proof of Jesus and God's favor of a man, therefore it is a sin before god to tax a rich man or corporation. the poor are being punished by god for not "Submitting" to god's great plan. which is for the poor to work to make the rich richer, and then god's grace will 'trickle down' to them. The Vereide cult has no name and is run by Doug Coe of C Street fame. the compromise problem with the GOP is explained by Jeff, is about Dogma not agenda. compromise is a Sin against God's Will, it wont happen.

check out Jeff Sharlet's 'The Family', I got mine cheap used on amazon. he lived with them for 4 years writing the book with access to detailed archives that went back to 1935. it was 9 months on the NYT's best seller list. read it and you will never say "WTF" about politics or echonomics again.. he is on Youtube too.

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the cops created the "Riot" to draw attention away from killing Freddy and blame the poor for their (Original Post) 1handclapn Apr 2015 OP
If so, how sad. NT Trillo Apr 2015 #1
Google "Baltimore Teacher Tweets"...plenty of first-hand "credible" witnesses. libdem4life Apr 2015 #2
i really wonder if the rocks and bottles were any threat.. how far away were they? 1handclapn Apr 2015 #6
.... GGJohn Apr 2015 #8
here.. 1handclapn Apr 2015 #18
Not against riot-equipped military-type police. More like Gaza. I hadn't heard that about the CVS, libdem4life Apr 2015 #9
I would love to see a link to a story about witnesses claiming that a tear gas cannister GGJohn Apr 2015 #11
Need to take that up with 1handclapn ... I hadn't heard it, but frankly, after how they trapped the libdem4life Apr 2015 #12
And that was duly reported, GGJohn Apr 2015 #13
Maybe how they didn't mention this new "second stop" and a lot of other things that will come out as libdem4life Apr 2015 #14
During the Ferguson riots, GGJohn Apr 2015 #15
I don't know even why the question...I'm not psychic. But there is some reason suddenly, police over libdem4life Apr 2015 #16
All very good points that I fully agree with, GGJohn Apr 2015 #17
just these from the link given above G_j Apr 2015 #20
Except that's not the CVS building is it? GGJohn Apr 2015 #22
oh, you are right G_j Apr 2015 #23
No problem. GGJohn Apr 2015 #24
because they could blame it on the people they victomized for decades nt 1handclapn May 2015 #25
Well, it wasn't the CVS that was set afire by a tear gas canister as claimed by you. GGJohn May 2015 #29
check,#18 ..2 above here..nt 1handclapn Apr 2015 #19
Says nothing about the CVS fire being started by a canister. GGJohn Apr 2015 #21
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Oh gee, I don't know, GGJohn May 2015 #30
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Think it could have maybe been a lighter? A match? GGJohn May 2015 #32
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Just about every drugstore carrys lighters, lighter fluid, GGJohn May 2015 #35
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You do know that fire spreads? GGJohn May 2015 #38
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the Mayo Clinic, "the only effective long term treatment for depression is meditation" 1handclapn May 2015 #27
I know that is true, but the Mayo Clinic?...that's about as mainstream as you can get. Thanks. libdem4life May 2015 #28
THUGS love riots. Downwinder Apr 2015 #3
Hillary attended those prayer meetings when she was in the senate. immoderate Apr 2015 #4
Hillery is Doug Coe's Protegee since 1998.. 1handclapn Apr 2015 #7
Keep in mind that there are many levels of law enforcement. ucrdem Apr 2015 #5
KnR. nt tblue37 Apr 2015 #10
BS rationalization pinboy3niner May 2015 #34
Gonna agree with you. nt cwydro May 2015 #36

1handclapn

(105 posts)
6. i really wonder if the rocks and bottles were any threat.. how far away were they?
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:06 PM
Apr 2015

were the rocks falling 40 yards short, and the cops got indignant for being diss'd and 'busted head's..?

witnesses said the CVS store caught fire when a police tear gas canister landed in flammables next to the building.. police probably prevented the fire trucks from putting out the fire.

I used to be a juvenile parole officer.. I helped the kids and got my meditation pilot study canceled. I made the system look bad in their eyes and got stepped on hard.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
8. ....
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:19 PM
Apr 2015
witnesses said the CVS store caught fire when a police tear gas canister landed in flammables next to the building.. police probably prevented the fire trucks from putting out the fire.


Link? Because this is the first time this has been posted and I would like to see the link to this claim.
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
9. Not against riot-equipped military-type police. More like Gaza. I hadn't heard that about the CVS,
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:43 PM
Apr 2015

unfortunately it's probably likely. Certainly the riot was "helped along" by not allowing the kids to get on their buses or the Metro and basically trapping them like animals. There is a lot of information Google ... Baltimore Teacher Twitter.

I'm not surprised about your meditation program, unfortunately, as the Establishment does not look kindly on "other culture" techniques. However Kaiser Permanente, a for-profit medical giant in N. California, offers free classes in meditation and even paid for chiropractic care. Why? It saved them money/i.e. and was profitable.

Noticed your handle...Zen myself...helped me get through lots of issues.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
11. I would love to see a link to a story about witnesses claiming that a tear gas cannister
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:57 PM
Apr 2015

fired by police set the CVS on fire, because there is zero articles about anything like that.
Can you provide a link?
Personally, I think it's bullshit, .

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
12. Need to take that up with 1handclapn ... I hadn't heard it, but frankly, after how they trapped the
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:03 PM
Apr 2015

kids from getting on buses and the metro, I don't doubt it.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
13. And that was duly reported,
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:05 PM
Apr 2015

why wouldn't such an incident as a tear gas canister fired by the cops be reported.
Sorry, but until there's proof of such an incident, I'm calling bullshit on 1handclapn's claim.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
14. Maybe how they didn't mention this new "second stop" and a lot of other things that will come out as
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:19 PM
Apr 2015

they lose control of the issue. There is no proof of what happened to Mr. Gray from entrance into the Paddy Wagon and his broken neck and back 45 minutes later is found to be "unresponsive". Probably a few details missing here.

Oh, and that he broke his own back and neck in the back of the fan and coerced the other prisoner to "verify" this fake story ...who then told a completely story when he decided to "out" himself.

That's BS. And yeah, I'd believe they would "inadvertently or intentionally" set up the fire, too. Not everything has a web url.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
15. During the Ferguson riots,
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:24 PM
Apr 2015

it was reported PDQ that a cops tear gas canister started one of the fires, so, why wouldn't the same happen in Baltimore?
Sorry, but on this, I'll believe it when there's actual proof, not an unsubstantiated rumor.
And what about the senior living building? Was that started by the cops?

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
16. I don't know even why the question...I'm not psychic. But there is some reason suddenly, police over
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:40 PM
Apr 2015

reach/aka violence and brutality is becoming a part of the national narrative...from the protest in the streets across the nation to the politicians trying to catch the wave. Now even we white folk have to deal with it. I mean they set up the prisoner...lied to the media...killed an innocent kid and the only reason it's a big deal is because someone had a cell camera and the internet passes along information. This is what they do when they KNOW they are being filmed.

But we all have our own personal belief systems...neither right nor wrong.


GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
17. All very good points that I fully agree with,
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:46 PM
Apr 2015

however, there is absolutely no proof that a cop's tear gas canister started the CVS fire, and the senior living building that was near completion was torched by thugs, not the peaceful protesters, but thugs that took advantage of a situation.
Thank the lucky stars that that building wasn't occupied yet.

G_j

(40,367 posts)
20. just these from the link given above
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 11:39 PM
Apr 2015
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/27/baltimore-officers-injured-_n_7155564.html#220_police-criminals-started-library-fire

04/28/2015 11:45 PM EDT
Police: 'Criminals' Started Library Fire
Baltimore police said "criminals" set a fire outside a library. But a reporter said he saw sparks from a tear gas grenade start the blaze.

Jon Swaine ✔@jonswaine
Fire beside Pratt library was not caused by Molotov cocktail. The teargas grenade landed on trash and its sparks set the fire. Watched it.
10:44 PM - 28 Apr 2015

1handclapn

(105 posts)
25. because they could blame it on the people they victomized for decades nt
Sat May 2, 2015, 04:29 PM
May 2015

providing an excuse to come down hard on them... again.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
29. Well, it wasn't the CVS that was set afire by a tear gas canister as claimed by you.
Sat May 2, 2015, 06:37 PM
May 2015

It was a library, which was quickly extinguished.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
21. Says nothing about the CVS fire being started by a canister.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 11:42 PM
Apr 2015

The CVS was looted by a bunch of thugs and then mysteriously goes up in flames and you believe the cops did it?
Sorry, but the logical conclusion is that some of those punks decided to torch the place, and what about the senior living building? Was that started by the cops also?

Response to GGJohn (Reply #11)

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
30. Oh gee, I don't know,
Sat May 2, 2015, 06:38 PM
May 2015

maybe, just maybe it was the stores stock that went up in flames.
Think that could be it?

Response to GGJohn (Reply #30)

Response to GGJohn (Reply #32)

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
35. Just about every drugstore carrys lighters, lighter fluid,
Sat May 2, 2015, 06:58 PM
May 2015

or one of those punks used their own lighter, but it definitely wasn't a cops tear gas canister as reported by the OP.

Response to GGJohn (Reply #35)

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
38. You do know that fire spreads?
Sat May 2, 2015, 07:05 PM
May 2015

All it takes is just a small pile of paper and it will spread like wildfire.

Response to GGJohn (Reply #38)

1handclapn

(105 posts)
27. the Mayo Clinic, "the only effective long term treatment for depression is meditation"
Sat May 2, 2015, 04:33 PM
May 2015

they have a massive meditation program.

1handclapn

(105 posts)
7. Hillery is Doug Coe's Protegee since 1998..
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:12 PM
Apr 2015

doug coe was the guy that brought Dubya to God and cured his alcoholism...

read jeff's book.! he intimately knows those people.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
5. Keep in mind that there are many levels of law enforcement.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:55 PM
Apr 2015

California Highway Patrol for instance have been known to have a hand in such incidents since way back. In fact Steinbeck wrote about them doing it in Grapes of Wrath.

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