man who filmed Freddie Grey's arrest arrested tonight

[ghostsinthemachine]

Kevin Moore filmed the police brutally arresting Freddie Gray. That footage went viral and began all of the protests that have been flooding the streets of Baltimore and sweeping the nation ever since. Now, after claiming the police had been harassing and intimidating him after he went public with the footage, Kevin Moore and two members of Cop Watch – Chad Jackson and Tony White – have been arrested tonight in Baltimore.

Chad was in Baltimore from We Cop Watch Ferguson, “to help folks on the ground in Baltimore with Cop Watch efforts,” according to Jacob Crawford of Cop Watch.

http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/04/police-just-arrested-man-who-filmed-the-freddie-gray-arrest/

[onecaliberal]

1. Here we go, just like the guy who filmed Eric Garner murder.

Let me guess they had drugs or a weapon.

[sabrina 1]

6. Ramsey Orta, yes, who filmed Erik Garner's murder, also claimed he was harassed by the police

and falsely charged. His bail set so high he couldn't afford it but his aunt set up a gofundme account and they were able to pay the bail money. But, rather than release him, they refused, claiming they couldn't be sure the money was 'legitimate'. That caused such a backlash, they had to back off.

He is now facing charges that he and others say are phony.

Sounds like if you catch them in the act, you're going to be harassed and arrested on some trumped up charge.

[lovemydog]

2. WTF? From that article:

Moore explained that he had already spoken at length with two detectives in the Police Department’s Office of Internal Oversight and given them his video of the incident. But the police posted his photo and told the public that he was “wanted for questioning” and asked people to identify him. But they already knew who he was. What were they trying to prove, or was this all about harassing him?

Tonight, the Baltimore Police answered that question for us. They arrested Kevin Moore who was with two members of Cop Watch. Moore explained that Gray was a friend of his and he has to speak up. What can you to do help Moore, Chad Jackson and Tony White who were arrested with him?

Call the Baltimore Police Department at [phone] and demand that they release these innocent men now! Then help us SPREAD THE WORD!

[sabrina 1]

7. They are such liars. Good idea to call them to let them know the are being watched.

[Duppers]

24. Wow! I'm calling in the morning.

This should be added to the OP. Action is needed.

How many layers of crap are there to this murder??!!!

Thanks for your post, LMD.

[Smarmie Doofus]

3. This is more incomprehensible than the death itself.

The guy who filmed the Eric Garner incident in NYC was arrested a few days later.

How do they get away with doing this?

Why isn't there more outrage associated w. the SUPPRESSION of the truth?

Where are the politicians and editorial writers?

Where are the free speech advocates?

[sabrina 1]

8. Good question, who are they accountable to? No one seems to care what they do.

Second time they've done this to someone who caught them in the act of murdering an AA.

[Smarmie Doofus]

10. What gets me is that they're so BLATANT about it.

I mean.... could they be any more obvious?

I also don't get the fact that so many people ... even people who take to the streets to protest these shootings.... don't see how , from a societal POV, how completely dangerous and CRAZY it is to let them trump up charges against the whistleblowers.... without whom no one would know about the homicides in the first place.

There maybe some more disturbing ( to me) ideas that people have about whistleblowing ( aka "snitching" , on the playground) in the first place.

Some kind of ambivalence about people who turn over these rocks and make us look at what's crawling around underneath.


Maybe we don't really want to know.

[sabrina 1]

15. I think the blatancy is because they know that the powers in this country are on their side.

When you consider the fact that they have murdered thousands of Americans over the past decade and should, in any rational society, be considered a threat to the safety of the public, yet, nothing happens, they have to feel they are invulnerable, and that could only be because they have the certainty of knowing they are doing what they are supposed to be doing.

See OWS eg, they brutalized, falsely arrested thousands of protesters, even tortured some of them, nearly killed two US Iraq Veterans and not a single charge was ever filed against any of them. In fact they were protected.

Ferguson, same thing.

And remember NOLA, where it took years before charges were finally filed.

Something is way off about a country that has such a violent, lying police force and nothing is ever done about it.

[d_r]

39. i think the blatency

Is a warning to people who might be in a position to him something in the future.

[daredtowork]

45. Did you see in Oakland there is a new ACLU app

If the police are coming at you, the app automatically sends the video to the ACLU. I believe it was developed in conjunjunction with the Ella Baker Center. I saw it on the news last night - they called it something like Citizen's Body Cam. Just in case the cop's body cam was having "technical problems" or it looked like the cop might break/confiscate your phone.

I was skeptical when I saw the promos because I think we are an over-surveilled society, but when I saw how it works I thought it was a great idea. It's just about saving a copy of that evidence and getting it to the ACLU.

[sabrina 1]

49. No, I had not heard about it. It does sound like a good idea and maybe should be available to people

all over the country. But it's sad that the people have to protect themselves now against the very police whose salaries they pay to protect them. What a statement that is.

And where is our government who are running around the world supposedly to protect us from people thousands of miles away?

Clearly it's okay to murder US citizens right here at home.

I think we need to start calling it what it is, terrorism. People ARE terrified of them and with good reason.

[daredtowork]

50. Apparently thanks to political corruption and money equalling speech

the police are paid to protect the interests and property of the 1%.

[sabrina 1]

54. Yes, that is becoming more and more apparent every day. n/t

[Enthusiast]

35. They get away with it because there are no repercussions for murder or intimidation.

[diabeticman]

4. They are probably trying to make Kevin Moore look like some sort of "Thug" or throw doubt

on the Video by saying you can't trust someone who was arrested. Perhaps even trying to intimate him.

[BrotherIvan]

5. Ok my head just exploded

Independent prosecutor NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[calimary]

12. Outrageous, isn't it!?! Just dumb-founding. Freakin' ASTONISHING that this shit can keep happening.

I just keep thinking - "how many more? HOW MANY more? How many more is too much, at long last?"

I keep going back to that foundational Martin Luther King Jr. quote: "A riot is the language of the unheard."

ALL OF THIS, and they're STILL not heard. It really hurts to watch the coverage and hear a steady parade of reporters talk about the widespread cynicism of the community. Most people there are making it clear they expect this investigation to result in yet another free pass for yet another brutal cop (or several of them).

[freshwest]

9. This man did the right thing. Baltimore needs major intervention, by federal agents, now. And they

need to have a consent degree shoved down their throats and every last one of those involved to do serious prison time.

What they did to that 25 year was pure sadism and illegal. Need to get AI and the UN in there. The only good thing - hopefully - is that it has been turned over to the prosecutor's office.

It remains to be seen if their prosecutor office is as bad as the one in Ferguson. And the news story about some guy saying this young man 'injured himself' in the van?

Well, that's just plain bullshit. He had his spine severed in three different places. You cannot do this to yourself! His voice box was collapsed! You do not do this to yourself!

The video or some other report (have not seen it yet) says that he was screaming in agony after the cops folded him like paper and was already paralyzed when they put him in the van.

There is no reason to do this to any sentient being! They knew better! Anyone does, unless they are out of their minds with hate or on drugs.

And the fact that this man went to the PD to show them the video meant that he, at least, believes in the rule of law.

I also cannot get the image and sound in my mind from the description of the boy wanting his mother as he was dying but they would not let her see him. Those are the last words she heard of her son and this drives me to tears, so does the death of this man.

I feel that someone, with police complicity, is trying to start a war. There are dark forces, well funded running loose in this nation.

[grasswire]

14. Yes, I fear that someone is wanting a race war.

Heck, it could even be weapons industry.

I have always thought that a race war would be the last resort of TPTB.

[JustAnotherGen]

38. Well said freshwest

And agree on AI and UN intervention if the Feds don't get in there and start ripping that police force to shreds.

[chillfactor]

11. what an abomination of justice....

and the cops who murdered Gray are still free....

[grasswire]

13. ok, this is some kind of structured/managed technique of chaos...

....orchestrated to deflect.

A shield, made up of chaotic dissemination of false or half-true reports from variety of sources that are then the "subject" of the news. Shiny objects thrown at the news vendors.

I believe we might even call this "chaff".

Someone is advising police departments to do this. Look at Ferguson. Look at Trayvon Martin. Look at Garner. The technique is the same.

We need to label this clearly and denounce it loudly.

[sabrina 1]

16. It's beginning to look that way. Rather than deal with these murders as any civilized nation would,

they go further, commit more acts of injustice. Same thing with Ramsey Orta who filmed Erik Garner's murder. They harassed him for weeks then arrested him on what his attorneys call 'trumped up charges'.

[grasswire]

20. yes

I wish some excellent investigative journo with all the tools would find the link between these PDs and their coinkydink responses to high-profile murders of unarmed black males. Who is advising them? Who has written the framing? Who is media training the spokespersons?

Someone is doing this.

[Jerry442]

23. Get a narrative out there that paints your adversaries as bad guys.

Doesn't matter if it's not supported by evidence. Doesn't even matter if it's easily refuted. The people you are speaking to are the "true believers" who will grasp onto any piece of garbage that reinforces their cherished beliefs. Then, when the polltakers ask the question, "Do you believe that the video of Freddy Gray's arrest was edited to show police violence that never actually happened?", many of the respondents will vaguely recall that Sean Hannity said that Bill O'Reilly said that somebody in the BPD said that it might have been. Then you get 49% saying yes.

Saw it happen in Ferguson. How many people out there still believe that they saw a picture of a badly beaten Darren Wilson on the net, despite the fact that the picture was of someone totally different with no resemblance?

[grasswire]

40. exactly

and someone is training police to do this.

[Lars39]

37. My money's on Dubya-Chene'y cronies in Homeland Security.

They've been providing training of some sort to PDs now.

[951-Riverside]

17. This is standard operatating proceedures

The first time I noticed this was when Mitchell Crooks was snatched up by undercover officers and shoved into a van then later charged on some bullshit charge after he captured video of a police officer punching a handcuffed black seen in the mouth back in 2002, Jose Luis Valdes was arrested and extradited 3000 miles away for an immigration that was issued after he captured video of a deputy standing over an unarmed vet then pumping several bullets into him and finally there is the guy who taped Eric Garner's brutal murder, he was arrested and the court or the DA refused to accept bail that was raised for him.

[AlbertCat]

18. Kevin Moore and two members of Cop Watch – Chad Jackson and Tony White – have been arrested tonight

For what?

It doesn't say (or did I miss that?)


What are the charges?

[sabrina 1]

21. They're probably working out what to charge them with right now.

It's almost as if they WANT to instigate the public.

And to warn anyone else who films them murdering citizens. The fury they feel towards these whistle blowers was evident when they did the same thing to Ramsey Orta, harassed, then arrested him, then kept him in jail with a very high bail. Then when the public provided the bail, refused to accept it, claiming they 'were not sure it was legitimate'.

This is outright, blatantly criminal, yet, they feel free to do it. So clearly they have no fear of ramifications. No one is in charge, or maybe they are, and they are doing what they are supposed to do.

[ronnie624]

19. Police abuses in the US are just about as bad as anywhere else.

Posters who regularly complain about this type of abuse in foreign countries, but never mention the abuses committed in the US, are hypocrites of the highest order. They only think they're hiding by not posting on this thread.

[sabrina 1]

22. They are the worst in the civilized world. There is no other civilized country that has the record

killing their citizens, as this one.

Comparable to some who are generally not viewed as part of the civilized world.

And no one seems to be in charge.

I read that they have killed over 5,000 US citizens since 9/11 and it is extremely rare for any of them to be even indicted.

That is a shocking record. And even more shocking that the Federal Government hasn't stepped in to protect its citizens.

Maybe it's time to seek help from outside this country. Clearly it isn't going to come from inside.

[ronnie624]

25. And that's on top of the highest prison population in the world,

in terms both absolute, as well as per capita.

There is something seriously wrong here.

[daredtowork]

47. I've compared the welfare situation to Gitmo

and people think I'm exaggerating because they haven't been subjected to that form of torture.

The Constitution no longer applies if you need to be means-tested for services. Then you are dependent on "political will" (that never happens) for mercy.

[Kablooie]

26. Of course. Standard police procedure.

its no wonder the prisons are overflowing.
American police arrest anyone for anything and probably always get them sent to prison whether there is evidence against them or not.

This is getting scary, and I'm white.

[ohheckyeah]

27. Call the police department

and then the White House.

[Binkie The Clown]

28. Apparently open carry of a camera is a crime now, but open carry of a gun?

not so much.

[Warren DeMontague]

29. I am shocked

shocked I tell you


...

[CincyDem]

30. This isn't just about Freddie Grey - this is about the next victim

Police organizations nationwide have been supporting "filming prohibited" types of laws that make it a crime for citizens to film police in action. That's the back end of the effort, the part that effects the courtroom.

This is the front end of that effort, the part that effects the street. This is to make it known that if you put cops on film (ok - digital, I know), you will be put under a microscope and if they can't find something, they're going to make it up. And if it's made up...so what, the damage is already done and it might take you years to sort your life back out.

This is classic cultural intimidation.

[daredtowork]

48. Judges also often side with the cops

They tend to think of "the people" as an unruly mob giving them backalk. They hated on bloggers for the first decade of this century, which is why SLAPP laws were necessary to protect public participation.

One would think publi participation would already be a default right guaranteed by the 1st and 4th amendments of the Constitution.

[countryjake]

31. Doing their damnedest to cover their asses. I heard on CNN today that...

the fourth "mystery stop" that the cop van made while carting Freddie Gray away to jail, the one that had previously gone unreported and was unknown until today, was supposedly just discovered on video obtained from a Korean store owner.

That store owner said that two police officers came into his store right after Freddie died and that they'd made a copy of his store surveillance video. The guy, named Hwang, had never looked at it and had no idea what might be on it, but his grocery was broken into during the disturbance on Monday night and looters got away with his laptop, which held the original recording.

So today, all of a sudden the cops admit to one more stop than the three they'd already claimed their transport had made?

Makes me go hmmmm....

I can imagine two totally different scenarios that might explain today's questionable revelation about the ride that Mr. Gray was given to the cop shop.

Watching the tactics they've been using to nab people off the streets of Baltimore all thru this week, they remind me of crawdads under a rock, darting out from behind a phalanx of heavy duty riot-gear to grab their prey. Disappearing people every day (but only the ones they carefully choose to drag off).

[daredtowork]

46. So the "looters" might have been cops

taking that video?

Any hints as to what might be on it?

[countryjake]

53. Or, because looters got the video, cop shop figured they'd better...

admit to that additional stop, before someone else revealed it publicly.

Either notion is pretty nefarious, but the way their investigation appears to have been conducted...just the fact that they waited a week, until Mr. Gray had died, before they decided to figure out what happened to him and go looking for videos, makes me question that department's integrity. Most surveillance cameras don't even save vid that long.

They haven't shown any stills or images from the newly reported stop the cop van made, yet, not like they've been airing pics of the other three stops all week. Deputy Commissioner Davis just said on Thursday that they'd discovered a new stop based on their "thorough and comprehensive and ongoing review".

Here's an article which tells about Thursday's announcement:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/30/baltimore-police-van-freddie-gray-stop

~snip~

“The second stop has been revealed to us in the course of our investigation and was previously unknown to us,” Baltimore deputy police commissioner Kevin Davis said at a press conference. Davis said the stop was filmed by a private CCTV camera.

The video footage of the previously undisclosed van stop was filmed by cameras above the entrance to CR Grocery, a shop on the corner of the two streets mentioned by police. (the intersection of North Fremont Avenue and West Mosher Street)

Jung Hwang, the owner of the shop, told the Guardian on Thursday that detectives visited him one day last week following Gray’s death and appeared to take copies of the footage that was stored on his laptop computer.

However, the shop was then looted during Monday’s unrest, said the shop owner, who is Korean and speaks little English. “The laptop was stolen,” he said.

Hwang said he did not see what the footage showed and did not know the vehicle had stopped outside on 12 April because the shop was closed. A friend who spoke English and called 911 to report the looting confirmed the shopkeeper’s account.

[countryjake]

55. Here's surveillance that BPD released Thursday, "newly discovered footage"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3062840/Cops-dramatically-admit-Freddie-Gray-police-van-mystery-extra-stop-arrest-private-security-camera-scene.html#v-4207183165001

[fingrin]

33. Arrested for what?

Standing while Black? ( We all know the powers that be want them on their knees)
How about breaking curfew, or outstanding fines?
Maybe, Just Maybe he committed a arrestable offence.
How about people keep rational and try to be "Fair and Balanced"

[Warren DeMontague]

51. Disturbing the police.

Sorry, i mean peace.

[ChiciB1]

34. OKAY, Not Sue WHY I Can't Sleep Tonight...

Not saying it's about Baltimore, but decided to check in here. This is SHOCKING & APPALLING no doubt about it, but tell me WHY the Attorney General of the United States of America doesn't have this information???

For far too long I've watched this country being destroyed by Greed & Money and have more questions than Carter has pills! For those who don't know that phrase, it's from way, way back. Police Departments everywhere seems to have what are called a few bad apples, but I haven't bought that idea for a long time now. Yes, there's a part of me that feels many might want to be whistle blowers, but once in the system the thought of getting fired and ostracized may be a dangerous venture. I don't know the what or why, but my gut tells me that someone somewhere with real power has set this in motion!

Reminds me of Scientology a little and it's mind blowing. I don't know who to trust or who to believe anymore. How is it that our Justice Department is unaware of it? Please tell me why my question is stupid? I suppose it could be like Anonymous and all the groups who try to stay under the radar operate, but now the Po-Po KNOWS these people and are allowed to get away with it arresting them!!

I REALLY want to do what I can to inform everyone I know, but too many times when I tell others about this type of stuff they thing I'm a "conspiracy theorist" and laugh it off!

My neighbor across the street told me the day before yesterday that he "had a friend who lives in Baltimore" who told me Gray had already had an operation BEFORE he was arrested and the the story SNOPES debunked. I actually had my TV on while they were saying the cops were transferring the case to the state AG! I told him to LISTEN to what was being said at that very moment and he said "we'll just have to agree to disagree on this!" Information smack in his face and he chose to believe the other story!!

HOW THE HELL HAS THIS COUNTRY GOTTEN SO STUPID?? HOW?? And might I suggest we take this number down right now and call ASAP before it's erased or disappears!

[Enthusiast]

36. Nazi filth.

[stillwaiting]

41. In the future people should give their taped footage anonymously through second and third parties.

Make a copy of it.

Give the copy to someone to give to someone else (that you don't know) to give to the public.

If it never reaches the public go through that process again until it does. Maybe even have a fourth level of contact before making it public/giving it to the media and to the police.

It's a damn shame that it's come to that, but it clearly has come to that.

[dragonlady]

42. ACLU has an app for that

The ACLU in California today released a free smart-phone app that allows people to send cellphone videos of police encounters to the ACLU, automatically—and the ACLU will preserve the video footage, even if the cops seize the phone and delete the video or destroy the phone. The app, “Mobile Justice CA,” works for both iPhones and Android users. It’s available at Apple’s App Store and at Google Play.

The app features a large red “Record” button in the middle of the screen. When it’s pressed, the video is recorded on the phone and a duplicate copy is transmitted simultaneously to the ACLU server. When the “stop” button is pressed, a “Report” screen appears, where information about the location of the incident and the people involved can also be transmitted to the ACLU. The video and the information are treated as a request for legal assistance and reviewed by staff members. No action is taken by the ACLU, however, unless an explicit request is made, and the reports are treated as confidential and privileged legal communications. The videos, however, may be shared by the ACLU with the news media, community organizations or the general public to help call attention to police abuse.

More at http://www.thenation.com/blog/205889/new-aclu-cellphone-app-automatically-preserves-video-police-encounters

[ghostsinthemachine]

43. awesome...

Great idea.

[ghostsinthemachine]

44. He's out and his first interview

http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcbsn.ws%2F1zgmUrF&h=_AQEfZ_zS&enc=AZOB47q68ECrcz_HqGVa5P7D70_HYQci7LWksQoADrqjof-QstDCWSmYgZUGE6YXeRKLA3WNzPvdesxC7BV2fBHep-o22L0oy1ibynRpFHZg72FWn7StksVcGPihlgvTzBIXMDwyrFjKMGUhuVz-0Ayw6JAzql3nYVhLepBOL2FKa7NB7pp2SAxuR4iEhxEkRSRSQ9m1tSbuGSeJR11AgjXv&s=1

[Spitfire of ATJ]

52. Under Bush they would have claimed a connection to terrorism.