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George Will Confirms Nixon's Vietnam Treason (Original Post) edhopper May 2015 OP
Raygun and the Little Chimperor are tied for the worst hifiguy May 2015 #1
Your description of Tricky reminds me of Hunter S. Thompson radiclib May 2015 #10
I read a ton of Thompson in my day. hifiguy May 2015 #12
I had a friend whose dad told me Unknown Beatle May 2015 #34
My MIL said Nixon just fell in with the wrong crowd. grasswire May 2015 #51
In a way she was right. MarianJack May 2015 #62
By "fell in", I hope you mean "recruited". n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #68
I had a friend whose dad told me The CCC May 2015 #71
I used to have a bumper sticker murielm99 May 2015 #83
Good one! ananda May 2015 #36
For many reasons I was so pissed listening to cilla4progress May 2015 #76
Reminds me of Truman quotes JonLP24 May 2015 #78
You mustn't neglect REAGAN!! immoderate May 2015 #2
Plus GHWB. Wilms May 2015 #3
As president he was reasonably benign compared to his Idiot Son, Raygun and Nixon. hifiguy May 2015 #4
HW was president for Raygun hootinholler May 2015 #11
I wish we could go back in time and pre-emptively rid ourselves of Prescott Bush hifiguy May 2015 #13
One could argue that Prescott was just a supermarket clerk sent to collect a bad debt by leveymg May 2015 #38
I disagree. I think Reagan was in charge and he damaged the country of his own will and efforts. StevieM May 2015 #19
HW, like cheney were the brains behind the idiots. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #16
^^Ding Ding BrotherIvan May 2015 #56
link doesn't work Doremus May 2015 #72
Try this one, I couldn't get that one to work at all either, even the website is not loading Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #87
HW was 10 times better than Reagan or his son. Remember HW was the one who called okaawhatever May 2015 #25
Look up the "October Surprise". Wilms May 2015 #33
I'm familiar with April Glaspie. Bush Sr. is not just better than Jr. He was MUCH better than okaawhatever May 2015 #35
OK. Wilms May 2015 #37
Surprised you would think that dreamnightwind May 2015 #40
You think HW was worse for this country than his son or Reagan? nt okaawhatever May 2015 #41
Yes I absolutely think so dreamnightwind May 2015 #43
Wasnt HW behind the scene from Kennedy until the end of GHW? vanlassie May 2015 #44
Yes, he's had his fingers in every kind of misdeed dreamnightwind May 2015 #46
That is only because the Democrats in Congress held George HW Bush back. Major Hogwash May 2015 #55
really??!! heaven05 May 2015 #80
Good article Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2015 #5
While it actually says a great deal about faults in our system jimlup May 2015 #6
Letting the President get away with it... Mike Nelson May 2015 #7
Isn't that a grand idea BrotherIvan May 2015 #57
The Road To Perdition Is Paved With Ronald Regan's Soul cantbeserious May 2015 #8
reagon seems to have done the same thing in iran. is treason now part of the repug dna samsingh May 2015 #9
Fucking POS, caused me to be drafted and shafted. Hubert Flottz May 2015 #14
You and many millions more. JohnnyLib2 May 2015 #15
I'm so sorry, Hubert Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #17
I was sorry for a long time... Hubert Flottz May 2015 #50
Think of all the blood, all the deaths on Nixon's and Kissinger's consciences (assuming they JDPriestly May 2015 #23
Ruthless tyrant! Hubert Flottz May 2015 #47
The last legitimately elected R president was Dwight D Eisenhower Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #18
That is true. hifiguy May 2015 #20
And take it from an 83 year-old: Rolando May 2015 #28
k&r... spanone May 2015 #21
Nixon and Kissinger -- both traitors. JDPriestly May 2015 #22
Nixon - treason; Reagan - treason; Bush 1 - treason? (probably) rurallib May 2015 #24
R#40 & K n/t UTUSN May 2015 #26
Raygun the worst. Followed by Shrub Chimp. kairos12 May 2015 #27
Wow... RT Atlanta May 2015 #29
This is really saddening Jack Rabbit May 2015 #30
What a Dick underpants May 2015 #31
Is there a statute of limitation on treason? Kissinger is still alive. yellowcanine May 2015 #32
That evil maggot, Kissinger, is still alive... gregcrawford May 2015 #39
And didn't G. Bush Sr. do something similar willing dwarf May 2015 #42
I think this was the reason for the Watergate break in rufus dog May 2015 #45
Nixon and Johnson were scumbags. roamer65 May 2015 #48
The war started long before Johnson arrived in office mrdmk May 2015 #53
So you dismiss Johnson's record edhopper May 2015 #59
There's an order of magnitude difference in scumbaggery lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #69
K&R! hrmjustin May 2015 #49
Jimmy Carter has confirmed George Will's treason. He's not going to scrub his legacy this late in MADem May 2015 #52
Raygun and Shrub had no redeeming features eridani May 2015 #54
And W was good on AIDs funding edhopper May 2015 #60
Nixon killed a chance at peace to get elected Gothmog May 2015 #58
Nixon was bad, no doubt. But no worse than Reagan, Daddy Boosh or Baby Boosh. Enthusiast May 2015 #61
And look at the current Republican presidential field for 2016 Punx May 2015 #63
For a long time the suspicion of this was considered a Conspiracy Theory. rhett o rick May 2015 #64
Wow. How many people died between then and the end of the war? gollygee May 2015 #65
I think it was edhopper May 2015 #66
Roughly 20,000 US military deaths on Nixon's watch out of 58,000 total. NT 1939 May 2015 #89
Most of the dozens of friends I lost were KIA during that period pinboy3niner May 2015 #90
All you people back then in the 70's FlatBaroque May 2015 #67
Hey, but it wasn't a blow job. Baitball Blogger May 2015 #70
but if the President did it, it CAN'T be illegal! elleng May 2015 #73
HRC should publicly denounce Kissinger for his role in this treason. lark May 2015 #74
They had to put a barrier around Nixon's grave because Vietnam vets were leaving offerings. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #75
Reagan & Bush and might as well add Nixon JonLP24 May 2015 #77
I just felt it heaven05 May 2015 #79
Which brainless ne'er-do-well? chimp or "saint" ronnie? calimary May 2015 #81
St. Ronnie destroyed the zentrum May 2015 #82
The beginning of the end of Rule of Law CanonRay May 2015 #84
Republicans then and now ... napkinz May 2015 #85
Nixon's The One colsohlibgal May 2015 #86
1972 bumperstickers eridani May 2015 #94
Will we hang nixons and reagans treason around republican necks? captainarizona May 2015 #88
I seriously doubt d_legendary1 May 2015 #92
Nixon and Reagan are a hard team to beat for the "worst" title. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #91
I watched the Nixon/Kissinger ARC-LIGHT bombings DemoTex May 2015 #93
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
1. Raygun and the Little Chimperor are tied for the worst
Mon May 4, 2015, 07:51 PM
May 2015

because of the incalculable long-term damage they did, but old Three-Dollar-Bill Dick is right behind them. Nixon had the character and instincts of a crooked two-bit ward-heeler and the ethics of a hyena. Add that to his persecution complex and you had a walking disaster as POTUS.

My dad used to say Nixon was so crooked that he needed two people to help him screw his pants on each morning

radiclib

(1,811 posts)
10. Your description of Tricky reminds me of Hunter S. Thompson
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:30 PM
May 2015

The man who introduced me to honest political writing.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
12. I read a ton of Thompson in my day.
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:32 PM
May 2015

Especially his Watergate coverage. I am sure it rubbed off, but I heard my dad say that about the Trickster before I read HST.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
34. I had a friend whose dad told me
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:06 PM
May 2015

that it was too bad that that Nixon resigned since he was a great president. Huh? What the...! Not only that, but years later, my friend started parroting his dad. Nixon was great but Reagan was better.

We kept in touch until he started saying that the Shrub was right about everything including starting the war in Iraq.

Needless to say, we're no longer friends.

ananda

(28,879 posts)
36. Good one!
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:20 PM
May 2015

I remember this grafitti on the stall doors in the Rice library bathroom.

Don't change dicks in the middle of a screw, re-elect Nixon in 72

and

Nixon had to see deep throat three times before he could get it down pat.

cilla4progress

(24,779 posts)
76. For many reasons I was so pissed listening to
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:39 PM
May 2015

Chuck Todd on Sunday. Not the least was listening to Boehner say, "Listen (arghh - HATE IT WHEN HE SAYS THIS SO ARROGANTLY!!) we've had 50 years of failed liberal (urban) policies", this why Baltmore is happening...."

Toad should have called him on that: hell 28 of the past 50 years were under regressive, elitist, monomaniacal, plutocratic Republican administrations. Todd didn't say a thing. So sick of pandering pseudo-journalists.

So don't give me that shit, Boehner.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
78. Reminds me of Truman quotes
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:42 PM
May 2015

Richard Nixon is a no good, lying bastard. He can lie out of both sides of his mouth at the same time, and if he ever caught himself telling the truth, he'd lie just to keep his hand in.
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/h/harrystrum128324.html#btvLAcEVDvsTRabj.99

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
4. As president he was reasonably benign compared to his Idiot Son, Raygun and Nixon.
Mon May 4, 2015, 07:57 PM
May 2015

At least he didn't fuck up the fall of the Soviet Union.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
11. HW was president for Raygun
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:31 PM
May 2015

Nixon was his daddy's protege as HW was Nixon's. Cheney's job was to be president while W played the part.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
13. I wish we could go back in time and pre-emptively rid ourselves of Prescott Bush
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:33 PM
May 2015

before he ever managed to reproduce.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
38. One could argue that Prescott was just a supermarket clerk sent to collect a bad debt by
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:26 PM
May 2015

his boss, Avaril Harriman, and that his widow, Pamela Digby Churchill Harriman was the one who really moved the Democratic Party to the Right of Nixon and gave us
President Hillary.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
56. ^^Ding Ding
Tue May 5, 2015, 04:07 AM
May 2015

They are all part of the same ongoing conspiracy and if I can walk I will dance all over their graves. Evil.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
25. HW was 10 times better than Reagan or his son. Remember HW was the one who called
Mon May 4, 2015, 09:35 PM
May 2015

Reaganomics "Voodoo Economics". He also gave the NRA the middle finger, made Kuwait and SA pay for most of Desert Storm and didn't go in and get Saddam Hussein because he had the report (the same one his son did) that said it would take years and the results were still uncertain.

HW took a lot of flack for not going after Saddam Hussein but he at least did what was right by the country. Those troops sat in the desert for months while he tried to negotiate a diplomatic solution. He pushed them back into Iraq and left. If only his son could have learned from his example.

In my mind, HW is the least bad Republican we've seen since Ike. He may have done a lot of damage, but he could have done so much more.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
33. Look up the "October Surprise".
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:00 PM
May 2015

Have a look at who April Glaspie is.

The PG war did as much to birth Al Qaeda as anything else.

Being better than junior is not a great endorsement.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
35. I'm familiar with April Glaspie. Bush Sr. is not just better than Jr. He was MUCH better than
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:11 PM
May 2015

Jr.

Bush Sr. could have done so much more damage. We are lucky we escaped his term relatively unscathed compared to what came before him and what came after him.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
40. Surprised you would think that
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:33 PM
May 2015

HW was and is evil, IMO. He did an incredible amount of damage. October Surprise, Iran-Contra, I still think the first gulf war was a trap play on Sadaam (see Glaspie), death squads in south and central america, the S & L scandal which Bush and his family were directly involved in, CIA cocaine and heroin shipments, Danny Casalero, it goes on and on. Before Goldman was named the vampire squid, we had GHW Bush's Octopus of scandals, the stench was everywhere, and it ran very deep.

Now, if you want to get into comparative evil between Reagan, GHW Bush, and GW Bush, reasonable people can differ, personally I found GHW Bush to be the most genuinely evil of the three.

I just didn't want anything diminishing the crimes of GHW Bush to go unchallenged on this site, he was seriously bad news.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
46. Yes, he's had his fingers in every kind of misdeed
Mon May 4, 2015, 11:06 PM
May 2015

Octafish has probably posted a thousand posts on these matters.

I'm not absolving Reagan or W, not at all, but HW was one of or perhaps the central figure in most of these things, whereas Reagan and W were the dufuses put in charge mostly for their ability to project "warmth" while HW and his people (Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc.) neocon-ed a large portion of this good earth.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
55. That is only because the Democrats in Congress held George HW Bush back.
Tue May 5, 2015, 03:36 AM
May 2015

So many of them lost their seats in the next 2 election cycles that we wound up with a weakened Democratic-controlled Congress.


Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,234 posts)
5. Good article
Mon May 4, 2015, 07:58 PM
May 2015

We're still living with the consequences of Nixon today. Roger Ailes of Fux Noise was Nixon's media consultant and had a role electing him in 1968.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
6. While it actually says a great deal about faults in our system
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:08 PM
May 2015

and has become the Republican playbook:

1. Ronald Reagan's team in '80 "Iranian weapons for hostages"

2. Republican Senate now on "Iranian nuclear treaty"

Unfortunately, it now only go down as a footnote in an obsure dusty history book that very few will even notice.

Mike Nelson

(9,970 posts)
7. Letting the President get away with it...
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:12 PM
May 2015

...was not a deterrent, obviously. Perhaps Nixon should have gone to prison.

samsingh

(17,601 posts)
9. reagon seems to have done the same thing in iran. is treason now part of the repug dna
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:28 PM
May 2015

I guess everyone wants to talk bengazi

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
14. Fucking POS, caused me to be drafted and shafted.
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:41 PM
May 2015

Two years of my life, down the drain, because of a lying republican traitor.

Johnson was dead wrong, to let that slide.

Now the 47 in the Senate will get a free pass on their own traitorous acts.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
50. I was sorry for a long time...
Mon May 4, 2015, 11:51 PM
May 2015

not so much anymore.

At the time it sucked big time. But it did teach me some good lessons and I did get to travel to some beautiful places.

That Nixon did what he did, behind the president's back, during a war, kind of brought back the bitter taste of the entire Vietnam era and all it really stood for.

Now the GOP can't wait to send more of our jobs to the Communist hordes.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
23. Think of all the blood, all the deaths on Nixon's and Kissinger's consciences (assuming they
Mon May 4, 2015, 09:11 PM
May 2015

had or have consciences). Useless deaths. Vietnamese and American deaths just so that Nixon could get elected. What a horrible man.

rurallib

(62,455 posts)
24. Nixon - treason; Reagan - treason; Bush 1 - treason? (probably)
Mon May 4, 2015, 09:32 PM
May 2015

Bush 2 - treason (lying us into war)

I am seeing a pattern

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
29. Wow...
Mon May 4, 2015, 09:49 PM
May 2015

Lays it out there in cold hard facts that seem undeniable and confirm what many have believed for years. It's sad to me that it takes 40+ years after these guys are dead (sometimes) for the truth to come out.

LBJ being persuaded to sit on his hands sort of reminds me of the Gore/Bush supreme court decision and Gore taking the high road after the court selected bush. Yuk!

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
30. This is really saddening
Mon May 4, 2015, 09:55 PM
May 2015

I've put that above even Nixon all these years. I was wrong.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that when LBJ confronted him with the evidence he acted just like Nixon. The dirty little coward lied out of his teeth, denied everything and spoke in hollow platitudes.

When Nixon died, President Clinton gave federal employees the day off so they could stay at home at watch the funeral. I was contracted at that time to Mare Island Naval Shipyard in California. I made it a point to go to work.

I'm glad I did.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
32. Is there a statute of limitation on treason? Kissinger is still alive.
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:00 PM
May 2015

He certainly aided and abetted Nixon's treason - and was rewarded for it by Nixon.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
39. That evil maggot, Kissinger, is still alive...
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:31 PM
May 2015

... maybe this revelation will take him down. I wouldn't surprised to learn that Nixon gave Ronzo some pointers when that fuck sabotaged Carter's negotiations with Iran.

Republicans are filth beneath contempt.

willing dwarf

(1,089 posts)
42. And didn't G. Bush Sr. do something similar
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:38 PM
May 2015

When he negotiated with Iranians to not release hostages until after the election of Reagan, (he was running as Reagan's V.P). I saw a documentary with all sorts of footage about a meeting in France for this purpose. You can really draw a criminal line right along from Nixon (this, secret bombings of Cambodia &, of course, Watergate) to Ford ( pardoning Nixon) to Reagan (Iranian hostage deal and then Iran-Contra arms trading) to George Bush Sr. to W with his trumped up weapons of mass destruction and war in Iraq. Not one of them is clean. A shower of bastards.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
45. I think this was the reason for the Watergate break in
Mon May 4, 2015, 11:04 PM
May 2015

Nixon thought the DNC and Larry O'Brien had some documents to prove what Nixon did.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
48. Nixon and Johnson were scumbags.
Mon May 4, 2015, 11:36 PM
May 2015

Both of them. Period.

Johnson for lying us into that damn war and Nixon for prolonging it.

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
53. The war started long before Johnson arrived in office
Tue May 5, 2015, 01:50 AM
May 2015
Vietnam War

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"War in Vietnam" redirects here. For other wars in Vietnam, see Military history of Vietnam.
"Indochina conflict" redirects here. For the conflict in French Indochina, see Indochina War.

The Vietnam War (Vietnamese: Chiến tranh Việt Nam), also known as the Second Indochina War, and also known in Vietnam as Resistance War Against America (Vietnamese: Kháng chiến chống Mỹ ) or simply the American War, was a Cold War-era proxy war that occurred in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia from 1 November 1955 to the fall of Saigon on 30 April 1975. This war followed the First Indochina War (1946–54) and was fought between North Vietnam—supported by the Soviet Union, China and other communist allies—and the government of South Vietnam—supported by the United States and other anti-communist allies. The Viet Cong (also known as the National Liberation Front, or NLF), a South Vietnamese communist common front aided by the North, fought a guerrilla war against anti-communist forces in the region. The People's Army of Vietnam (also known as the North Vietnamese Army) engaged in a more conventional war, at times committing large units to battle.

As the war continued, the part of the Viet Cong in the fighting decreased as the role of the NVA grew. U.S. and South Vietnamese forces relied on air superiority and overwhelming firepower to conduct search and destroy operations, involving ground forces, artillery, and airstrikes. In the course of the war, the U.S. conducted a large-scale strategic bombing campaign against North Vietnam, and over time the North Vietnamese airspace became the most heavily defended in the world.

The U.S. government viewed its involvement in the war as a way to prevent a Communist takeover of South Vietnam. This was part of a wider containment policy, with the stated aim of stopping the spread of communism. The North Vietnamese government and the Viet Cong were fighting to reunify Vietnam under communist rule. They viewed the conflict as a colonial war, fought initially against forces from France and then America, and later against South Vietnam.

Beginning in 1950, American military advisors arrived in what was then French Indochina. U.S. involvement escalated in the early 1960s, with troop levels tripling in 1961 and again in 1962. U.S. involvement escalated further following the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident, in which a U.S. destroyer clashed with North Vietnamese fast attack craft, which was followed by the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which gave the U.S. president authorization to increase U.S. military presence. Regular U.S. combat units were deployed beginning in 1965. Operations crossed international borders: bordering areas of Laos and Cambodia were heavily bombed by U.S. forces as American involvement in the war peaked in 1968, the same year that the communist side launched the Tet Offensive. The Tet Offensive failed in its goal of overthrowing the South Vietnamese government but became the turning point in the war, as it persuaded a large segment of the United States population that its government's claims of progress toward winning the war were illusory despite many years of massive U.S. military aid to South Vietnam.

Much more at the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#Di.E1.BB.87m_era.2C_1955.E2.80.9363

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
69. There's an order of magnitude difference in scumbaggery
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:43 AM
May 2015

The southern strategy and the war on poverty show completely opposite world views.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
52. Jimmy Carter has confirmed George Will's treason. He's not going to scrub his legacy this late in
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:23 AM
May 2015

the game. He's an asshole with 'good hair.'

I mean, really--"in other news, water still wet."

eridani

(51,907 posts)
54. Raygun and Shrub had no redeeming features
Tue May 5, 2015, 02:59 AM
May 2015

Nixon was certainly oily and disagreeable, but the EPA was established on his watch.

edhopper

(33,629 posts)
60. And W was good on AIDs funding
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:54 AM
May 2015

and Reagan was good on nuclear arms.

Nixon was a straight up crook and a vile man. 25,000 men died under his watch because he prolonged the War.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
61. Nixon was bad, no doubt. But no worse than Reagan, Daddy Boosh or Baby Boosh.
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:05 AM
May 2015

They're Republicans, it's what they do—treason!

Punx

(446 posts)
63. And look at the current Republican presidential field for 2016
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:35 AM
May 2015

Is there one of them that would not do the same thing, or worse if they were able and it would help deliver the presidency?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
64. For a long time the suspicion of this was considered a Conspiracy Theory.
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:48 AM
May 2015

Some people go to great lengths to ridicule CT. But some times they prove out. IMO as liberals we need to keep an open mind about CT and not censor it off-hand. Of course we should always use common sense.

Reagan's treason also was CT for a long time as is the theft of the 2004 presidential election.

Think tanks conspire by definition.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
65. Wow. How many people died between then and the end of the war?
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:50 AM
May 2015

Both Americans and Vietnamese? How many deaths due to this? "Treason" is putting it gently.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
90. Most of the dozens of friends I lost were KIA during that period
Tue May 5, 2015, 04:19 PM
May 2015

When we lost somebody we said they got "wasted."

Welcome to DU!

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
67. All you people back then in the 70's
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:40 AM
May 2015

who were called conspiracy theorists for believing that Nixon committed treason....it's cool, now you can be believed.

Baitball Blogger

(46,760 posts)
70. Hey, but it wasn't a blow job.
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:57 AM
May 2015

It's time to go after Kissinger. We should at least strip him of every award that he has ever been given.

20,000 young men died that should have been home with us.

Please, please Dem candidates and leaders, throw Henry under the bus.

lark

(23,160 posts)
74. HRC should publicly denounce Kissinger for his role in this treason.
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:18 PM
May 2015

I will be severely disappointed in her if she doesn't make a public show of hitting Kissinger and the "Republican president" for causing the deaths of 20,000 Americans, a million injured Americans and a million dead Vietnamese people for purely political gain. This should be top of the page large headlines, but will it?

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
77. Reagan & Bush and might as well add Nixon
Tue May 5, 2015, 12:40 PM
May 2015

are my worst. Certainly they were all very corrupt. Andrew Jackson probably one of the worst in history if not worst.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
79. I just felt it
Tue May 5, 2015, 01:16 PM
May 2015

to be true, when I heard that CT. But noooooooooo! Kissinger, that POS, caused many more american deaths and countless Vietnamese lives by helping nixon undermine LBJ and continuing that WAR. All for power. Nixon was a real piece of work.....and Atwaters "Southern Strategy" went a long way towards assuring that racist society of the late 60's, early 70's, would continue, even on to today in 2015.

calimary

(81,514 posts)
81. Which brainless ne'er-do-well? chimp or "saint" ronnie?
Tue May 5, 2015, 01:51 PM
May 2015

We've had to suffer at least two since nixon.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
82. St. Ronnie destroyed the
Tue May 5, 2015, 01:59 PM
May 2015

….middle class and we will never be the same. Nixon was a mild crook who couldn't be elected by his own party today, compared to what Reagan and Bush have done to us.

So the two worst were Reagan and the Chimp. The pending impeachment of Nixon made his effects less lethal, I think.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
86. Nixon's The One
Tue May 5, 2015, 03:15 PM
May 2015

That old campaign slogan of his is true but in a bad way.

Thom Hartmann has played tapes of LBJ talking to one of the head republican senators, LBJ says what Nixon did was treason, the republican agrees.

Of course the Gipper did too or Carter might well have had two terms.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
94. 1972 bumperstickers
Tue May 5, 2015, 06:28 PM
May 2015

Nixon's An Even Bigger One in '72

Don't change Dicks in the middle of a screw
Vote for Nixon in '72

 

captainarizona

(363 posts)
88. Will we hang nixons and reagans treason around republican necks?
Tue May 5, 2015, 03:49 PM
May 2015

Will we start calling republicans the party of treason? Jimmy carter thought mention the hostage treason would hurt the two party system! Will hillary attack back say I am being attacked by the party of treason?

DemoTex

(25,405 posts)
93. I watched the Nixon/Kissinger ARC-LIGHT bombings
Tue May 5, 2015, 04:57 PM
May 2015

From my un-armed electronic recce aircraft in Laos and Cambodia. I still have nightmares. If there is a hell ..

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