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matmar

(593 posts)
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:58 AM May 2012

Democrats who want a "balanced approach" to cutting the deficit can kiss my ass.....

"balanced approach" meaning cutting Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid for people who need it (which is everyone using it) in exchange for tax increases on people who don't need that extra BMW...

I don't give a damn what the MFing deficit is, you cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and its adios Democratic Party.

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Democrats who want a "balanced approach" to cutting the deficit can kiss my ass..... (Original Post) matmar May 2012 OP
Actually no, "balanced approach" means the rich need to give up their tax cuts emulatorloo May 2012 #1
Nope danbeee46 May 2012 #2
Nope. There is a difference in making provider side cuts/eliminating waste to Medicare emulatorloo May 2012 #3
Don't you care that we have the most inefficient health care system compared to everyone else? dkf May 2012 #4

emulatorloo

(44,130 posts)
1. Actually no, "balanced approach" means the rich need to give up their tax cuts
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:07 AM
May 2012

and corps are going to have to pay taxes.

"Balanced Approach" is in contrast to the Republican One-sided approach, where the Rich are given even more tax cuts, corporate loopholes aren't closed, oil companies don't have to pay taxes, and the deficit only gets paid for by the 99 per cent.

danbeee46

(53 posts)
2. Nope
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:35 AM
May 2012

The OP is correct. The Blue Dogs and even Obama have defined balanced approach as including reforms of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Even Pelosi has indicated she can now support Simpson Bowles, which makes significant cuts in so-called entitlement programs.

emulatorloo

(44,130 posts)
3. Nope. There is a difference in making provider side cuts/eliminating waste to Medicare
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:16 PM
May 2012

and turning it into a Voucher Program as the Republicans plan.

Democratic plans seek more efficiency and less waste. They do not effect recipients.

Republican Ryan Budget destroy Medicare and leave recipients stranded and on their own with private insurance companies.

I know there are many here who want to claim that the Democratic and Republican approaches are "the same.". Facts don't support that claim.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
4. Don't you care that we have the most inefficient health care system compared to everyone else?
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:28 PM
May 2012

We pay more for worse outcomes and government is a huge part of this as they are the largest payer.

Medical costs are growing significantly faster than the economy. Letting it do so in perpetuity is stupid as it eventually eats up all discretionary spending. Then what happens to food stamps and heating oil subsidies and federal unemployment?

In a way that would be a great strategy to destroy all the safety nets. Let Medicare drown it out first, then they just need to fix one outsized obviously bloated system.

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