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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/06/opinion/sunday/are-neocons-getting-ready-to-ally-with-hillary-clinton.htmlThe Next Act of the Neocons
Are Neocons Getting Ready to Ally With Hillary Clinton?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/us/politics/historians-critique-of-obama-foreign-policy-is-brought-alive-by-events-in-iraq.html?_r=0
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)There are times you have to take a stand, in some cases it is better than turning and running. She will be doing the job she will be elected to do.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)because it is an old article and the speculation by the neocon author is for the purpose of hyping his own stupid book. How sad.
The use of these right wing talking points/articles has lowered the collective IQ of both Freeperville (because they are spending all of their time here) and DU.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Superpowers Don't Get to Retire
What our tired country still owes the world
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117859/allure-normalcy-what-america-still-owes-world
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)Sure, she always pays attention and makes good decisions . . . Black is White, War is Peace . . .
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Plus the right hates the guy. Example: http://spectator.org/articles/61648/disgracefully-betrayed-robert-kagan
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/review-essay/2008-06-01/present-re-creation
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)gheez louise
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)nice try
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Superpowers Don't Get to Retire
What our tired country still owes the world
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117859/allure-normalcy-what-america-still-owes-world
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)That Hillary Clinton believes in what she pledges, that politicians aren't corrupt, that politicians won't dare say something just to get an intended result? You may like to be in your own world, but the real world is the real world, whether you like it or not. Please, grow up!
quickesst
(6,283 posts)..... I think you're being too damn nice to them.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)There's no talking to the morons, so why even bother?
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Joe Scaraborough
Tucker Carlson @ 1:55
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Neocons and Liberals Together, Again
The neoconservative Project for the New American Century (PNAC) has signaled its intention to continue shaping the government's national security...
Tom Barry, last updated: February 02, 2005
The neoconservative Project for the New American Century (PNAC) has signaled its intention to continue shaping the government's national security strategy with a new public letter stating that the "U.S. military is too small for the responsibilities we are asking it to assume." Rather than reining in the imperial scope of U.S. national security strategy as set forth by the first Bush administration, PNAC and the letter's signatories call for increasing the size of America's global fighting machine.
SNIP...
Liberal Hawks Fly with the Neocons
The recent PNAC letter to Congress was not the first time that PNAC or its associated front groups, such as the Coalition for the Liberation of Iraq, have included hawkish Democrats.
Two PNAC letters in March 2003 played to those Democrats who believed that the invasion was justified at least as much by humanitarian concerns as it was by the purported presence of weapons of mass destruction. PNAC and the neocon camp had managed to translate their military agenda of preemptive and preventive strikes into national security policy. With the invasion underway, they sought to preempt those hardliners and military officials who opted for a quick exit strategy in Iraq. In their March 19th letter, PNAC stated that Washington should plan to stay in Iraq for the long haul: "Everyone-those who have joined the coalition, those who have stood aside, those who opposed military action, and, most of all, the Iraqi people and their neighbors-must understand that we are committed to the rebuilding of Iraq and will provide the necessary resources and will remain for as long as it takes."
Along with such neocon stalwarts as Robert Kagan, Bruce Jackson, Joshua Muravchik, James Woolsey, and Eliot Cohen, a half-dozen Democrats were among the 23 individuals who signed PNAC's first letter on post-war Iraq. Among the Democrats were Ivo Daalder of the Brookings Institution and a member of Clinton's National Security Council staff; Martin Indyk, Clinton's ambassador to Israel; Will Marshall of the Progressive Policy Institute and Democratic Leadership Council; Dennis Ross, Clinton's top adviser on the Israel-Palestinian negotiations; and James Steinberg, Clinton's deputy national security adviser and head of foreign policy studies at Brookings. A second post-Iraq war letter by PNAC on March 28 called for broader international support for reconstruction, including the involvement of NATO, and brought together the same Democrats with the prominent addition of another Brookings' foreign policy scholar, Michael O'Hanlon.
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http://rightweb.irc-online.org/articles/display/Neocons_and_Liberals_Together_Again
FTI: Victoria Nuland, our woman in Ukraine, is married to PNAC co-founder Robert Kagan, whose brother is Frederick Kagan. Frederick Kagan's spouse is Kimberly Kagan. Brilliant people, big ideas, and a lot of PNAC, which spells out the neocon/neolib approach to international relations means more wars without end for profits without cease, among other things detrimental to peace, justice, and democracy.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,341 posts)As the expression goes, who knew?
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Opposite sides of the same rotten, evil, warmongering coin.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)No need to recalibrate. She's a lifetime member. We can thank her for the leading the US into the infinite hell of Mideast engagement. Where ever Israel and the Saudis wanted to regime change or destabilize, she was there. The rise of ISIS and the collapse of what was left was the inevitable result.