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UTUSN

(70,710 posts)
Mon May 25, 2015, 10:41 AM May 2015

"Texas Rising" History channel's shift from Nazis to TeaBaggers. LIOTTA goes "nuts on the Mexicans"

That's a quote from Ray LIOTTA on Kelly & Michael just now about his character.



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http://riograndeguardian.com/lopez-texas-rising/
[font size=5]López: Texas Rising?[/font]
by Jose Antonio Lopez

.... (A) On March 2, 1836, when Anglos supposedly created it, Texas was already 145 years old! Texas was born in 1691 with the naming of Domingo Terán de los Rios as its first governor.

(B) In 1836, Texas was not part of the U.S. frontier, contrary to the customary talking points long used by post-1836 historians and parroted by “Texas Rising” writers and producers. ....

In reality, when Anglos left the U.S. and immigrated to Mexico, they were seeking a better life, not unlike the dreams of today’s immigrants. When crossing into Mexico (Texas), slave-owning Anglos refused to free their slaves as requested by Mexican government officials. So, the main bone of contention between encroaching Anglos and Mexico was slavery. ....

It’s time to concede that the U.S. was the aggressor in 1836 Texas, not the Mexican Army. Continuing to deny the early chapters of Texas just because they’re written in Spanish and/or don’t fit the Sam Houston model is unjust. It always has been. Acknowledging it now isn’t only wise, but timely. The following is the reason why.

Demography experts predict that Spanish-surnamed Texans will soon again be the majority population, a status they once enjoyed before the Anglos’ arrival. Teaching them a seamless social studies and history curricula in the classroom will finally grant Mexican-descent students their early Texas history ownership, long denied many generations of their elders. ....


Editor’s Note: The main picture accompanying this op-ed is of the Tejano Monument that graces the grounds of the state Capitol in Austin, Texas. The monument acknowledges and pays tribute to the contributions by Tejanos to Texas history and culture. Armando Hinojosa of Laredo sculpted the life-sized bronze statues that honor the early Spanish pioneers who settled Texas. The statues are mounted on a 275-ton granite base on the southeast grounds of the Capitol. Five accompanying plaques tell the Tejano story, beginning with the arrival of the Spaniards in the 1500s.





http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-st-review-texas-rising-20150525-column.html
Mary McNamara

[font size=5]Review 'Texas Rising' an exciting charge through the Texas Revolution [/font]
History (channel) is attempting to repeat itself. At least ratings- and Emmys-wise.

The network's new miniseries, "Texas Rising," is not only executive produced by Leslie Greif and written by Ted Mann, part of the team responsible for the network's phenomenal "Hatfields & McCoys," but it also shares a leading man.

In the five-part chronicle of the Texas Revolution, Bill Paxton, nominated for an Emmy for his portrayal of Randall McCoy, plays the legendary Sam Houston, Tennessee governor turned victorious Texas leader.

Unfortunately, "Texas Rising," is not as uniformly rich and splendid as "Hatfields & McCoys" or even Paxton's terrific performance as Houston. Though an exciting tale told in careful detail with the help of a remarkable cast that includes Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Thomas Jane, Jeremy Davies, Brendan Fraser, Ray Liotta and Kris Kristofferson as President Andrew Jackson, "Texas Rising" is tonally challenged in a way that regularly undercuts its own inherent drama. ....

Playing men as human as they are heroic — Houston fled a marriage that failed under mysterious circumstances; Smith is made vulnerable by a Mexican wife whom he deeply loves — Paxton and Morgan manage to make their characters believable in moments sweeping, swift and occasionally absurd.

They may not be enough to raise the entirety of "Texas," but they along with rich historical details that go well beyond the usual Alamo myths make the series worth watching.

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"Texas Rising" History channel's shift from Nazis to TeaBaggers. LIOTTA goes "nuts on the Mexicans" (Original Post) UTUSN May 2015 OP
Cashing in one of the un-K'ed Recs with a self-kick n/t UTUSN May 2015 #1
Fuck Texas edhopper May 2015 #2
Texas has no monopoly on assholes. n/t Comrade Grumpy May 2015 #8
Not for lack of trying. Major Hogwash May 2015 #13
Couls've said it better edhopper May 2015 #16
Actually, kentauros May 2015 #11
Neil Armstrong edhopper May 2015 #15
I thought my statement was obvious. kentauros May 2015 #19
It was actually edhopper May 2015 #20
Okay, I get it. kentauros May 2015 #21
I am always outraged by Texas. edhopper May 2015 #23
Well, if you're being tongue-in-cheek, kentauros May 2015 #25
I have friends in Texas edhopper May 2015 #28
Because Ohio is a bastion of liberalism... KatyMan May 2015 #22
ain't what this was about. edhopper May 2015 #24
right. KatyMan May 2015 #26
The claim was edhopper May 2015 #27
You should write a stern letter. It might be more effective. LanternWaste May 2015 #17
Why would I do that edhopper May 2015 #18
Just saw the promo for this show yesterday cyberswede May 2015 #3
Then there is the song. rgbecker May 2015 #4
I'm recording it for my Texan husband, Blue_In_AK May 2015 #5
This don't count as a self-kick. Am watching:: "fighin's all I know." whoa/am thrilled. n/t UTUSN May 2015 #6
Why do the "Mexicans" have a "Mexican" accent, like Romans have an "English" accent?!1 n/t UTUSN May 2015 #7
Uh-oh a Black woman is weeping to an Anglo (pro-slavery) against Mexicans (no slavery) n/t UTUSN May 2015 #9
O.K.soMexican cockfighting is a sin not like Anglo human-slave-holding. FREE!1 Join the CAUSE!1 nt UTUSN May 2015 #10
Something's rising alright... Scurrilous May 2015 #12
K&R Major Hogwash May 2015 #14
Article fails to mention Mexico was not independent from Spain until September 27, 1821. itsrobert May 2015 #29
Yip, it's billed as "Featured Guest Column" & definitely has a pov, the value being to counter UTUSN May 2015 #30

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
2. Fuck Texas
Mon May 25, 2015, 06:16 PM
May 2015

you know, when your proudest moment is the utter defeat at a small fort by men trying to preserve slavery, maybe you should rethink your giant obnoxious egos.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
15. Neil Armstrong
Tue May 26, 2015, 09:08 AM
May 2015

was from Ohio.

Or are you saying that because Johnson, in a fit of election spoils, put mission control in Texas, that somehow Texas is responsible for the moon mission.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
19. I thought my statement was obvious.
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:09 PM
May 2015

"Houston" was the first word spoken from the Moon. Don't really care about the other stuff, nor would the majority of people out there.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
20. It was actually
Tue May 26, 2015, 02:27 PM
May 2015

"Engine arm off", before "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed."

So no, it wasn't.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
21. Okay, I get it.
Tue May 26, 2015, 02:33 PM
May 2015

You just want to be outraged at Texas, so no point in arguing. You have a great day!

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
23. I am always outraged by Texas.
Tue May 26, 2015, 02:41 PM
May 2015

but it is a bit tongue in cheek. Don't take it too seriously and have a good one too.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
25. Well, if you're being tongue-in-cheek,
Tue May 26, 2015, 02:49 PM
May 2015

then I've always thought the first "word" was "BAM!" as exclaimed when the engine shut off. Someone should tell Emeril

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
28. I have friends in Texas
Tue May 26, 2015, 03:06 PM
May 2015

and I feel for those affected by the flood and the idiotic things the government does there.

But jerks like the Governor or Cruz or Perry or Gohmer should be bashed often.

It's a big state with diverse people, but the bragging "Texas has the biggest, best everything" ones make me ill.

And Bush didn't help my feelings about the State.

KatyMan

(4,198 posts)
26. right.
Tue May 26, 2015, 02:53 PM
May 2015

it isn't about bashing Texas. It's the favorite sport of DU! Even tho Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio etc all sport super conservative goverments, it's Texas and the South that's bad...everyone else is a victim of gerrymandering or something...

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
27. The claim was
Tue May 26, 2015, 03:04 PM
May 2015

"proudest moment was the first word spoken from the Moon"

it weren't.

That's all.

And I was bashing your Governor and the idiots in Austin who won't talk about climate change when shit like this happens.

You want to defend that?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. You should write a stern letter. It might be more effective.
Tue May 26, 2015, 09:12 AM
May 2015

You should write a stern letter. It might be more effective in your pretense a state thinks as one person.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
3. Just saw the promo for this show yesterday
Mon May 25, 2015, 06:21 PM
May 2015

"Don't mess with Texas!"

The show looks like it was created for dudes still stuck in adolescence.

UTUSN

(70,710 posts)
10. O.K.soMexican cockfighting is a sin not like Anglo human-slave-holding. FREE!1 Join the CAUSE!1 nt
Mon May 25, 2015, 10:22 PM
May 2015

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
29. Article fails to mention Mexico was not independent from Spain until September 27, 1821.
Tue May 26, 2015, 03:08 PM
May 2015

And the land originally belonged to Native Americans, like the rest of the the New World.

UTUSN

(70,710 posts)
30. Yip, it's billed as "Featured Guest Column" & definitely has a pov, the value being to counter
Tue May 26, 2015, 03:43 PM
May 2015

the John "draft dodger" WAYNE/proto-TeaBagger version of things. The author does mention the extermination of Native Americans, but skips on by the inconvenient Spaniards. When I first looked at the picture of the monument, the figure of the Conquistador was invisible. He focuses on Mexico's "21 years" and Spain's 302 yrs is skipped on by but for the chart:

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