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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBig Props to Wells Fargo and their two Mommy adoption commercial.
Wow!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)What rapacious, greedy crooks they really are...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/halahtouryalai/2012/10/09/wells-fargo-committed-mortgage-fraud-to-maximize-profits-us-attorney-lawsuit/
Jacoby365
(451 posts)How much longer will they get away with it? Greedy crooks is right: http://consumerist.com/2015/05/05/los-angeles-sues-wells-fargo-over-unfair-customer-account-conduct/
cali
(114,904 posts)issues such a LGBT rights out of the goodness of their hearts, is a hopeless idiot.
trumad
(41,692 posts)Let's not pretend that you don't know who to post without a hide.
cali
(114,904 posts)I think you're many things- an idiot is not one of them.
eloydude
(376 posts)this is a good commerical!
this touches close to home...
a kennedy
(29,694 posts)REMEMBER it's PR, that's all, PR. Kinda like that all warm and fuzzy BP advertisement about the Gulf Coast coming back..... They haven't paid a dime's worth of the damage they owe. D*mn. It's all Public Relations.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)If I were further a cynic , a bad person, At Wells, I would hope that some credulous type would post such a video to social media. Perhaps, if lucky, a progressive message board of one type or another , thanking Wrlls Fargo for spending a pittance on an ad that corresponds to my social mores while allowing their crimes to go unpunished.
But even a cynic could not hope for such people to spread their ad virally on left wing internet media while not airing such an ad on broadcast where their right wing customers might catch wind. Such dullards do not exist.
Thank gosh I am not a cynic.
trumad
(41,692 posts)This ad was on a major network--- 5 years ago it would not have been on a major network.
Most progressives are smart enough to know that WF part of the problem but also smart enough to know that this ad is good.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)That's what troubles you. We see what's behind the curtain. The gig is up.
trumad
(41,692 posts)14 years on DU hiding as a neo-liberal and you come in a catch me---oh my.
I look at this ad as something that would have not be shown on TV 5 years ago. That's all---no hidden agenda---just a fucking ad.
You on the other hand come into this thread with your purity meter trying to be oh so edgy with your politics.
Dude---you bore me.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)That they suckered you in doesn't surprise me in the least. Whether or not you are a neoliberal is irrelevant, what the Banksters just did is classic neoliberal strategy. Distract with a liberal shiny social issue while picking your pocket.
But hey, go ahead and get mad at me for pointing out that you're being had.
Wells Fargo is one of the worse of the worst in just how many Americans it has ripped off. One freakin commercial doesn't change that.
trumad
(41,692 posts)Your unbelievable wisdom has me floating on clouds. I'm so grateful that you have come into my life to educate me and set me straight.
Thank you oh wise one.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Don't take your eyes off the latest shiny object, whatever you do. And be sure to heap that praise on them for finally doing something they should have done years ago.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"One freakin commercial doesn't change that."
Has anyone attested in any real way, otherwise?
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)than about Wells Fargo.
trumad
(41,692 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)some people can't be happy about anything.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)DU has celebrated other commercials which used casting that broke old bigoted habits without feeling the need to lecture on the basic nature of commercials as exploitation. It's different when it's gay families in the ad because those posters do not see LGBT people as actual human beings.
It's very ironic to me that some of the same people who excuse the Pope for attacking LGBT adoptions with a vehemence suggestive of hate speech because 'he says other good things' find it impossible to so much as note the refreshing casting in this ad because of 'other bad things'.
It's almost as if the thing that bothers them is the adoption being portrayed.
trumad
(41,692 posts)That was the point of my Op.
But nope---the Puretopians have to dump their golden shit in a thread like this.
meaculpa2011
(918 posts)insurance settlement after Hurricane Sandy sent 8 feet of seawater and sludge through my house.
Get this... I owed them less than $15,000 on the 25 year mortgage I've been paying for 22 years.
After battling with them for nearly a year they reduced the holdback to what I owed. They were very apologetic and blamed it on a petty bureaucrat. Yeah, right.
I'm about two weeks away from completing repairs and then I'll have to fight them for the remainder.
Keep making cutesy commercials. That'll make me love you.
meaculpa2011
(918 posts)Tie your sales pitch to emotion.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Ron Green
(9,823 posts)The more heartwarming the ad, the darker the agenda.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)When Cheerios did a commercial with casting people liked, people celebrated that casting and did not feel the need to launch into lectures about the inherent hucksterism in advertizing.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022930559
The contrast is stark and very telling. Would you apply a word such as 'gaywashing' to that ad? If not why not?
Ron Green
(9,823 posts)Cheerios commercial was a positive and somewhat groundbreaking move into normalizing the ad environment to be more inclusive: a very good thing, in my view.
For you to write that my posts are "consistently nasty toward gay people" is just wrong and ignorant. My point about "gay washing" is that Corporate America and its image-makers are cynically co-opting the rapid (and long overdue) cultural shift toward tolerance and openness, in order to advance their harmful agendas, whether environmental degradation (Monsanto), wage slavery (Wal*Mart) or banksterism (Wells Fargo.) They've decided it's now safe enough to play gently on the right side of the Culture Wars, not needing the fundamentalist homophobic demographic - who probably don't see these new commercials in great numbers anyway (are they running on Fox News? If so, I'll reconsider my opinion.)
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Mosby
(16,334 posts)Whatever one might think about WFC, this took guts, good for them.