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Agschmid

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Tue Jun 2, 2015, 01:21 AM Jun 2015

Hillary Clinton: Less Minimum, More Wage

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“Do the math about what a minimum wage brings in, in income. If we don’t send a very clear signal that we’re all in this together, the character of America will change.”

–Hillary Clinton, 4/11/06


In the U.S. Senate

Hillary Clinton fought to tie the minimum wage to future increases in congressional salaries. Hillary Clinton repeatedly introduced the Standing with Minimum Wage Earners Act to bind future salary increases for Congress to mandatory increases in the federal minimum wage. Under the provisions of the legislation, the federal minimum wage would be “automatically increased” by “a percentage equal to the percentage by which the annual rate of pay for Members of Congress increased for such year…” Speaking to the importance of her bill, Senator Clinton said, “We can no longer stand by and regularly give ourselves a pay increase while denying a minimum wage increase to help the more than 7 million men and women working hard across this nation. At a time when working families are struggling to put food on the table, it’s critically important that we here in Washington do something. If Members of Congress need an annual cost of living adjustment, then certainly the lowest-paid members of our society do too.”

Hillary Clinton repeatedly introduced legislation to increase the federal minimum wage. Hillary Clinton’s Standing with Minimum Wage Earners Act of 2006 would have increased the federal minimum wage from $5.15 to $7.25 an hour over two years. Introducing her 2006 bill, Senator Clinton stated: “I ask my colleagues to recognize the moral aspect of this issue. It is simply wrong to pay people a wage that they can barely live on… We should raise the federal minimum wage so that working parents can lift their children out of poverty. It is past time to make this investment in our children and families.” Senator Clinton’s Standing with Minimum Wage Earners Act of 2007 would have increased the federal minimum wage from $5.85 to $9.50 an hour.

Hillary Clinton cosponsored bills to increase the minimum wage five times and consistently voted to support it. Over the course of her time in the U.S. Senate, Hillary Clinton cosponsored bills to raise the federal minimum wage in 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2007. Senator Clinton opposed Republican efforts to weaken the minimum wage, and she repeatedlybacked Democratic efforts to raise it. Although she opposed the Iraq funding bill it was folded into, Clinton cosponsored the original version of the Fair Minimum Wage Act that increased the minimum wage for the first time in ten years, from $5.85 to $7.25 an hour. It was one of the five bills Senator Clinton cosponsored to raise the minimum wage.

As First Lady

In 1996, Hillary Clinton was a vocal supporter of successful efforts to raise the minimum wage. The San Jose Mercury News reported in 1996, “The argument for increasing the minimum wage – which first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton endorsed Saturday – is simple and direct: The wage has not been increased since 1987 and those earning minimum wage receive no benefits or vacation.” And as she wrote in “It Takes a Village,” released earlier that year, “There are additional actions we can take, through our government, to preserve our country’s promise of opportunity for all. We can raise the minimum wage, which is nearing a forty-year low; two out of five minimum-wage earners are the sole breadwinners in their households, and many recent studies show that a modest increase does not cost jobs.” In his 2007 Hillary Clinton biography “A Woman in Charge,” Carl Bernstein wrote that, “In the ten weeks since the [1996] election, she had been working with administration officials to find ways of saving vital government services and programs that Gingrich and the Republican majority were determined to eliminate in the new session of Congress. They included legal aid for the poor, educational assistance incentives, important Medicare and Medicaid benefits, pension protection, and the minimum wage.” The minimum wage was successfully increased in August of 1996.

In 1999, Hillary and Ted Kennedy worked together to push for a minimum wage increase. As she said at a White House event with Ted Kennedy in September 1999,“America can afford to raise the minimum wage. The last time it was raised in 1996, 10 million Americans got a raise and the economy continued to create jobs at an unprecedented pace. Now raising the minimum wage is certainly an American issue and a human issue, but it is particularly a woman’s issue. It is also a children’s issue and a family issue. So I would hope that every member of Congress—the next time they visit a parent in a nursing home, sit down in a restaurant for a meal, see someone cleaning their office, or know what goes on in so many other settings where people work hard every day—would want every American to share in this kind of prosperity, and would want to raise the minimum wage.” Unfortunately, their push was unsuccessful.

Today

Hillary argues that a minimum wage increase will drive our economy by closing the wage gap between men and women. At a recent speech before the United Methodist Women Assembly, Hillary Clinton made the case for an increase in the minimum wage saying, “Twenty years ago, American women made 72 cents on the dollar; today, it’s still not equal. Women hold a majority of lower-wage jobs in our country, and nearly three-quarters of all jobs that rely on tips, like waiters, and bartenders, and hair stylists, which pay even less than the average hourly work wage. Now, holding back women is not right, but it’s also not smart. No country can truly thrive by denying the contributions of any of its people, let alone, half of its people… But if we took a different approach, women can drive economic recovery and growth, they can lift up themselves, their families, and countries, if we ensure equal pay for equal work, if we raise the minimum wage…”


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Hillary Clinton: Less Minimum, More Wage (Original Post) Agschmid Jun 2015 OP
Kick. Agschmid Jun 2015 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #2
Bye! Agschmid Jun 2015 #3
Agreed... MattSh Jun 2015 #45
I thought she was a Bernie fan darkangel218 Jun 2015 #49
She is a he... Agschmid Jun 2015 #88
Question: Are you spamming the board now? Bonobo Jun 2015 #4
Posting someone's policy positions is SPAM now? Agschmid Jun 2015 #5
The way you're doing it? Yes, absolutely. nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #6
Oh sorry, I thought I was allowed to discuss. Agschmid Jun 2015 #8
Cutting and pasting is "discussing"? nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #10
Worse things have been posted on this board, I'm sure you know. Agschmid Jun 2015 #12
You are flooding the board. Bonobo Jun 2015 #15
Actually SPAM usually looks like this... Agschmid Jun 2015 #16
I've given my opinion. No need to discuss further. nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #18
Plenty of reason to discuss further....there are 10s of posts made just like OP's every day Joe the Revelator Jun 2015 #20
Not 10 by the same person, in the same hour, all in CAPS and with no comment. Bonobo Jun 2015 #37
Sometimes SPAM looks like this too... Agschmid Jun 2015 #25
It would be funny if everybody suddenly started 10 threads in all caps Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #17
EVERYONE WOULD BE YELLING! Agschmid Jun 2015 #27
Seriously. Don't they teach this or have a briefing or something when they sign you up? Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #60
LOL. Looks like the Hillary bashers were bluffing when they said they wanted to talk DanTex Jun 2015 #48
She certainly doesn't have the entirely negative record some think she does. Agschmid Jun 2015 #51
Hardly. I remember the criticism at the time of her proposed increases Warpy Jun 2015 #76
SO, posting policy positions is "spamming," but posting BS attacks over and over isn't? Adrahil Jun 2015 #54
I have the board spammers on ignore ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #61
Wow! "Correct the Record" I'm so grateful for all this information.. It's telling the real Cha Jun 2015 #7
You should see the PM's I am getting... yikes! Agschmid Jun 2015 #9
bad ones? Cha Jun 2015 #13
Ah... yup. That's an understandment. Agschmid Jun 2015 #14
Good you had a nice conversation with one person! I really don't like it Cha Jun 2015 #22
And, of course.. there are those who can't handle the facts of Hillary's record so they want Cha Jun 2015 #11
Of course, the Hillary supporters murielm99 Jun 2015 #19
Yeah thats a smokescreen workinclasszero Jun 2015 #21
One thing that amuses me AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #23
I wasn't really here last time around but yes I do think people's opinions change. Agschmid Jun 2015 #28
A complete 180 AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #30
If they want to "spilt the party in two".. then they don't want to win. They're not in it to win. Cha Jun 2015 #26
Oh, yeah.. that's why the OP is posting all these information fact-packed Hillary OPs.. he was tired Cha Jun 2015 #24
I really am. Agschmid Jun 2015 #29
And, they're only enforcing your point by getting on your threads and doing what they do. Cha Jun 2015 #32
That was sort of the plan all along... Agschmid Jun 2015 #33
They're so easy. Cha Jun 2015 #35
Thanks, night Cha. Agschmid Jun 2015 #36
WTF? murielm99 Jun 2015 #59
What are talking about? "back off"? You said.. Cha Jun 2015 #87
I'm not interested in her SuperPAC dedicated to "defending Clinton's record" Mr. Robot Jun 2015 #90
Oh hey again. Agschmid Jun 2015 #91
Kick it again.. since his reply to me wasn't the one I was hoping for.. I want to kick this some Cha Jun 2015 #92
I'm happy to kick it again. Why? Mr. Robot Jun 2015 #93
I'd prefer more threads like this about ALL the D candidates... Adrahil Jun 2015 #56
In 2008 you considered Hillary to be "morally depraved" Autumn Jun 2015 #66
hmm, more things out of context? That was a thread about Obama vs. Clinton R B Garr Jun 2015 #68
I posted the exact words, even the link. Autumn Jun 2015 #69
Okay. That just looked like a comment in relation to Obama vs. Clinton 2008 long R B Garr Jun 2015 #75
Well if it looked like a 'comment in relation to Obama vs. Clinton' Autumn Jun 2015 #80
The linked thread itself was about the 2008 primaries, and the comment was in that thread, R B Garr Jun 2015 #83
and... bunnies Jun 2015 #70
I'm not putting down or calling anyone out. I just wanted to know Autumn Jun 2015 #71
I think its a fair question. bunnies Jun 2015 #72
To my mind I really see no difference between Obama and Hillary Autumn Jun 2015 #77
I can understand that. bunnies Jun 2015 #81
Bernie is the real deal and exactly what we need at this time. Autumn Jun 2015 #82
Yes I was pissed at her. I think she's learned a lot since Mark Penn was running her campaign.. Cha Jun 2015 #89
K&R. Thank you for posting this lunamagica Jun 2015 #31
It's not bad, I came out in 7th grade so this is nothing. Agschmid Jun 2015 #34
Well, I'm glad you are informing this board lunamagica Jun 2015 #38
Had to come and K & R this after serving on a jury that voted 7-0 to leave it. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #39
Somebody alerted on this? Jamaal510 Jun 2015 #40
Can you believe it? AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #41
Yup. Amazing, isn't it? SunSeeker Jun 2015 #43
Oh, where's that violin? Someone can't stand to see positive Hillary threads is what it's all Cha Jun 2015 #94
One man's spam is another man's treasure. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #95
There ya go! Cha Jun 2015 #96
That source is a Hillary rapid response group LittleBlue Jun 2015 #42
Your questions answered -- TM99 Jun 2015 #46
It is. Agschmid Jun 2015 #52
Whoever the nominee is will NEED one. Adrahil Jun 2015 #57
So, just to get this straight, her te as First Lady is Exilednight Jun 2015 #44
Like Hillary but ALL CAPS = hide thread. n/t pampango Jun 2015 #47
The headline reflects the graphic logo....it is an exception to the rule, I would think. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #55
K&R! hrmjustin Jun 2015 #50
Some say they want to talk issues. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #53
Morning kick. Agschmid Jun 2015 #58
Wait, didn't you claim to be a Bernie supporter? whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #62
I am. Agschmid Jun 2015 #63
Lol. whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #64
At this point I couldn't care less what people think. Agschmid Jun 2015 #65
+ a bazillion n/t horseshoecrab Jun 2015 #67
+1 Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #79
You can support one person without trashing another. Lancero Jun 2015 #73
Yup. Agschmid Jun 2015 #74
Thank you. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #78
kick & recommended. William769 Jun 2015 #84
KnR sheshe2 Jun 2015 #85
It is sad when some can not see the forest for the trees, in this case the forest apparently Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #86

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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
3. Bye!
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 01:27 AM
Jun 2015

Cause nothing is better than silencing other's voices huh?

Sure makes it easier to have that echo chamber you like so much.

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
45. Agreed...
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 04:54 AM
Jun 2015

Wonder why Agschmid is doing this. Just to annoy people, I guess...

I'll skip the rest of his caps locked threads now.

Agschmid

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16. Actually SPAM usually looks like this...
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 01:36 AM
Jun 2015

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Joe the Revelator

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20. Plenty of reason to discuss further....there are 10s of posts made just like OP's every day
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 01:39 AM
Jun 2015

Probably more than that. What makes you single this one out? What about makes it spam?

Bonobo

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37. Not 10 by the same person, in the same hour, all in CAPS and with no comment.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 02:13 AM
Jun 2015

To me, it is spamming the board.

Agschmid

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25. Sometimes SPAM looks like this too...
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Cheese Sandwich

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17. It would be funny if everybody suddenly started 10 threads in all caps
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 01:37 AM
Jun 2015

The whole forum would just be all caps hahaha

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
60. Seriously. Don't they teach this or have a briefing or something when they sign you up?
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:30 PM
Jun 2015

Don't post a dozen threads with all-caps titles all at once, it outs you and people add your account to their ignore list.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
48. LOL. Looks like the Hillary bashers were bluffing when they said they wanted to talk
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 07:11 AM
Jun 2015

about issues.

Which was obvious the whole time, since on the issues, Hillary is great.

Warpy

(111,352 posts)
76. Hardly. I remember the criticism at the time of her proposed increases
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 05:59 PM
Jun 2015

were that they were incremental and too small to make much of a difference for anyone working for a starvation wage.

The truly grotesque part is that Republicans and conservative Democrats wouldn't allow even such small increases.

We're long past the time when incremental change will do a damned thing for anyone.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
54. SO, posting policy positions is "spamming," but posting BS attacks over and over isn't?
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:02 AM
Jun 2015

Yeah, not surprised.

Cha

(297,692 posts)
7. Wow! "Correct the Record" I'm so grateful for all this information.. It's telling the real
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 01:30 AM
Jun 2015

story of Hillary's life in service.

Not just the negative stuff hounded over and over ad nauseam.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
14. Ah... yup. That's an understandment.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 01:33 AM
Jun 2015

Although I did just have a nice conversation with one person.

Cha

(297,692 posts)
22. Good you had a nice conversation with one person! I really don't like it
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 01:45 AM
Jun 2015

when someone PMs who obviously has a bone to pick... I mean wtf business is it of theirs what I do.. keep on it the board.

Anyway, that's why you're posting all this positive Hillary stuff in the first place because of all the Negativity.

Cha

(297,692 posts)
11. And, of course.. there are those who can't handle the facts of Hillary's record so they want
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 01:32 AM
Jun 2015

you to "go away".. speaking of "ad nauseam".

murielm99

(30,764 posts)
19. Of course, the Hillary supporters
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 01:38 AM
Jun 2015

are being accused of trash-talking Bernie. I'm just not seeing that. Instead, I am seeing nasty comments about Hillary in every positive thread about her.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
21. Yeah thats a smokescreen
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 01:43 AM
Jun 2015

by bernie fans to cover up their incessant vicious attacks against Hillary and the President as well.

It seems they hate the Obama coalition and want to split the democratic party in two.

The republicans would love to see that as well.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
23. One thing that amuses me
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 01:51 AM
Jun 2015

After a little digging in the archives, I realize a lot of today's most ardent Hillary fans were virulently anti-Hillary back then.

And they were viciously, incessantly going after her, apparently trying to split the party in two. Life is fickle sometimes!

Cha

(297,692 posts)
24. Oh, yeah.. that's why the OP is posting all these information fact-packed Hillary OPs.. he was tired
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 01:52 AM
Jun 2015

of it.. and he's a "Bernie Supporter".

Cha

(297,692 posts)
32. And, they're only enforcing your point by getting on your threads and doing what they do.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 02:05 AM
Jun 2015

Oh sorry.. I just put it in quotes because that's what you said to me. I was quoting you.

Cha

(297,692 posts)
35. They're so easy.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 02:09 AM
Jun 2015

I don't know if I updated fast enough.. but, I addressed your "air quote" thing.. it wasn't an air quote! I could take the quotes away.. you're a real Bernie Supporter!

Cha

(297,692 posts)
87. What are talking about? "back off"? You said..
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:10 PM
Jun 2015
Of course, the Hillary supporters
are being accused of trash-talking Bernie. I'm just not seeing that. Instead, I am seeing nasty comments about Hillary in every positive thread about her.

and, I replied..
Oh, yeah.. that's why the OP is posting all these information fact-packed Hillary OPs.. he was tired of it.. and he's a "Bernie Supporter".

Meaning the OP is a Bernie supporter.. but, he wanted to post positive Hillary threads because he was tired of the "nasty comments about Hillary in every positive thread about her".





 

Mr. Robot

(39 posts)
90. I'm not interested in her SuperPAC dedicated to "defending Clinton's record"
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:00 PM
Jun 2015

I'm interested in her current stances on key issues.

I'm questioning her continued silence on TPP, fracking, Keystone and many more.

Bernie has been accessible to everyone on a daily basis. Clinton is starting to act eerily similar to George W. Bush, with "handpicked" audience and "grassroots" support requiring a minimum of $1,000 to be a part of it.

What Clinton fails to recognize is that the "grassroots" that she seeks are those who are associates of rich bankers or something. Not the real and disappearing middle class. Bernie shows that he doesn't have a minimum, just your support and love. That's what I like about Bernie. He's always consistent. Hillary is drawing possibly the Democratic majority, but it is *NOT* one the largest voting bloc - it's the Independents.. Bernie is gaining a large amount of that. That is a fact. Another fact is that many disaffected and apathetic voters are perking up on the real thing, not some "focus group" handpicked, specifically for a section of a class that is rapidly shrinking but gaining too much wealth. I am talking of the 1% having the same amount of cash as ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY MILLION other Americans, I find it completely wrong.

Hillary a left liberal? I don't think so. She is a slightly right authoritarian by definition.

One must remember, that the Democratic Party has drifted to the right for the last 30 years, that anything considered "far-left" ideas are actually MAINSTREAM ideas. It's the right of center that has gone too far. I'm not attacking Clinton in any way, but just observing that that is where Hillary Clinton is really at. Her ideas may be good, but it's not the kind of ideas I want, from a candidate that 1) Failed to keep her 2008 lead and eventually lose. 2) Has drifted to the right since 1992, with her voting issues still relevant such as her Iraq War Resolution vote that is still causing sectarian violence in Iraq today and 3) She is about as exciting as watching NASCAR for a few hours. Exciting in the beginning, boring in the middle, and just about half an exciting at the end, and always plenty of wrecks in the middle.

At the end, I want to vote for someone with his or her heart and ideals in the right place, and the right environment to represent a new set of ideas, and that's why everyone is excited. Hillary can't even create that kind of spark. In 2004, Howard Dean created a kind of spark, but fell flat at the end, but he did get people interested in voting, and was very successful with his 50 state strategy that brought the Democratic wave in 2006 and again in 2008, ushering in Obama. If Bernie can create that spark and sustain it, then the turnout will heavily favor the Democratic Party, but we all have to work together to make it happen.


Cha

(297,692 posts)
92. Kick it again.. since his reply to me wasn't the one I was hoping for.. I want to kick this some
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:05 PM
Jun 2015

place!

 

Mr. Robot

(39 posts)
93. I'm happy to kick it again. Why?
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:08 PM
Jun 2015

I'll tell you - the Hillary Clinton room kicked me out, and before that I was on the fence, and I was questioning on her recent activities, and asking why, and I guess they found me as a threat, and was blocked.

I guess I'll take it as a badge of honor, but those Super PACs are not going to be attracting much, because after 30 years, America wants a real change.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
56. I'd prefer more threads like this about ALL the D candidates...
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:07 AM
Jun 2015

... instead of the disgusting bullshit attack threads that have overrun this place.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
66. In 2008 you considered Hillary to be "morally depraved"
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 04:23 PM
Jun 2015

I'm glad to see you find her record improved enough to support her but I'm not sure how she has changed. I'm curious what she has done that you now see her as the best candidate for President? Her views are still the same, she's still a decent, caring person and she was a great SOS. I was a Hillary supporter in 2008 and the proudest day of my life was when I caucused for her. I still like her, I think she's one hell of a classy woman. I just don't think she's the President we need at this time.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5692646#5699079
post #37 was when you said that

R B Garr

(16,979 posts)
68. hmm, more things out of context? That was a thread about Obama vs. Clinton
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 04:52 PM
Jun 2015

Since that time, Clinton and Obama healed their divides and she served as his Secretary of State. This is an example of something that has been overcome by events and is no longer accurate. At least that's what I read out of it.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
69. I posted the exact words, even the link.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 05:01 PM
Jun 2015

I was curious as to why Hillary is no longer considered to be "morally depraved" by the supporter now, at this time. That's not out of context, Hillary still supports the same Liberal issues then when she was running for President as she does now when she's running for President.

R B Garr

(16,979 posts)
75. Okay. That just looked like a comment in relation to Obama vs. Clinton 2008 long
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jun 2015

ago in the primaries, not so much a stand-alone comment about Clinton.

Clinton has since served Obama quite well, so whatever event that poster commented on has been overcome by their mutual respect and goals as a team working together. I've just seen so many things about Clinton taken out of context that are no longer relevant. Thanks for your explanation.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
80. Well if it looked like a 'comment in relation to Obama vs. Clinton'
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 06:06 PM
Jun 2015

it's one hell of an interesting snap shot when you consider this primary isn't it? But commenting on a persons one sentence opinion of a candidate and giving an actual link to what they have actually said is not taking anything out of context. Your welcome and thanks for the civil conversation.

R B Garr

(16,979 posts)
83. The linked thread itself was about the 2008 primaries, and the comment was in that thread,
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 06:18 PM
Jun 2015

so that's why I said "in relation to Obama vs. Clinton". That's what made it look out of context with what is happening now, especially considering that Sanders and Clinton haven't really even sparred yet in any real campaign way. But you wouldn't think that reading this website, so that's also why it looked out of context.

I only commented again since you quoted what I said which was in relation to the linked thread from 2008. Well, gotta run to do errands, so I'll let this go at that.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
70. and...
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 05:27 PM
Jun 2015

Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #15
22. hilary is a tenacious LIAR and has never

fought for a fooking thing except herself.


that is quite the eye-opening thread!

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
71. I'm not putting down or calling anyone out. I just wanted to know
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 05:32 PM
Jun 2015

what Hillary has done differently that she supports her this time. I was a Hillary supporter then and that was a nasty time for us. The only difference now is that Hillary is a couple years older. Hillary's views are still the same. I was going though my bookmarks and found that thread.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
72. I think its a fair question.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 05:34 PM
Jun 2015

I didnt support Hillary last time and I still dont. A full 180 like that is beyond my comprehension.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
77. To my mind I really see no difference between Obama and Hillary
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 06:00 PM
Jun 2015

I wanted a woman President and Health Care reform so I supported her because I believed that Hillary would have fought tooth and nail for a Public Option. That was something she very much wanted.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
81. I can understand that.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 06:08 PM
Jun 2015

And she probably would have. For me, it was more of a trust thing. Triangulation isnt something I can tolerate. That and I thought Obama was further left than he is.

Theres neither of those issues with Bernie though. I cant *wait* to cast my primary vote. In NH.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
82. Bernie is the real deal and exactly what we need at this time.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 06:10 PM
Jun 2015

Bernie I trust. What you see it just what you get.

Cha

(297,692 posts)
89. Yes I was pissed at her. I think she's learned a lot since Mark Penn was running her campaign..
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:31 PM
Jun 2015

And, the IWR vote.. Things change.. people learn and grow or they're stagnant.

I have too.. wow, I was out of control! "Two Americas" didn't turn out so good, though.

I started liking her after she graciously conceded at the Dem Convention and then after President Obama appointed her as SOS.. she did a brilliant job. They put aside their differences and came together for the country and so did I. I can certainly change how I feel about people over the years. This isn't the first time.

I haven't exactly settled on a candidate yet but now I don't like the slimey posts about the Dem candidates. So I'm all for these positive Posts Agschmid is making about Hillary.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
38. Well, I'm glad you are informing this board
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 02:21 AM
Jun 2015

Since so many here think Hillary has never done any good in her career.

And, as long as the board owner is OK with it, no one can make you stop.

Keep up the good work!

SunSeeker

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Jun 2015
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Cha

(297,692 posts)
94. Oh, where's that violin? Someone can't stand to see positive Hillary threads is what it's all
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:19 PM
Jun 2015

about.

Mahalo SunSeeker!

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
52. It is.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 09:54 AM
Jun 2015

But it's to deal with right wing smear attacks such as the ones that will come from Bush/Rubio/Rand. I think all Democratic candidates should have a website like this.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
44. So, just to get this straight, her te as First Lady is
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 04:06 AM
Jun 2015

Part of her resume?

Can't have it both ways and tout her FL experience and then say that Bill was Pesident when people start unleashing all the bad things that happened.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
53. Some say they want to talk issues.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 09:57 AM
Jun 2015

Seems they are more offended by your willingness to do so. Great posts.

PS: Six words in all caps makes two or three posters feel as if they are being yelled at. Keep yelling. Hillarys progressive record should be shouted from the rooftops.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
65. At this point I couldn't care less what people think.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:54 PM
Jun 2015

We should be working to elect the candidates we want, rather than ripping them to shreds over ever rediculous thing.

No matter who the nominee is they have an UPHILL fight.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
86. It is sad when some can not see the forest for the trees, in this case the forest apparently
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 07:28 PM
Jun 2015

was hidden by the trees. Good post, appreciate the information, I actually read the whole post, the caps did not bother me.

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