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Thats a theme for another day, except for this reminder to you and other graduates across our country: Although opportunities seem scarce in this economy, it is not for nothing that you have spent this time preparing. America needs your talent and your energy, all the more now that our countrys in a tough spot. For you and so many young Americans, our current troubles can be discouraging. You are ready for jobs that were supposed to be ready for you. Millions wait on the day when there are jobs for everyone willing to work, and opportunities to match your hopes and your goals. But dont lose heart, because that day is coming.
In the most practical, everyday terms, the best cultural assets are values as basic as personal responsibility, the dignity of hard work, inheritance free of taxation, and, above all, the commitments of family. Take those away, or take them for granted, and so many things can go wrong in a life. Keep them strong, and so many things will go right.
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In this life, of course, the commitments that come closest to forever are those of family. Maybe youvie heard that Ann and I have a pretty large family, and Im sure glad I like having grandchildren because every time I turn around theres more of them, whether naturally or through paid surrogates. Two more arrived last week, twin boys David and William, which brings us to eighteen grandchildren we have welcomed into the world.
Their great-grandfather, my Dad George Romney, was successful by any measure youd care to apply. I asked him once, What was your greatest accomplishment? Without a moments pause, his answer was, Raising you four kids. I had his example to follow, and I have never once regretted missing any experience or opportunity in business in order to be with my wife and five sons. Regrets usually come the other way around, from missing moments with your children that dont come again. The same holds true for time with your parents as the years fall away. Among the things in life that can be put off, being there when it matters most isnt one of them.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-set-to-give-commencement-address-at-liberty
Scuba
(53,475 posts)bigtree
(85,998 posts)I'm kinda not seeing the point in giving this drivel more exposure than it deserves. Is there a point?
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)bigtree
(85,998 posts). . . especially presented like you have here -- unremarked on by the poster. I don't think this forum should be a platform for Romney's speeches presented unadulterated, as you've done. It just makes me sick to think that his drivel deserves to be presented on this Democratic forum as if it has some relevance on its own.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)but you beat me to the Obama flag on top of Mt Everest.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)bigtree
(85,998 posts)what a slick deflection that was. I think I like this thread even less, if that's possible.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Have a good day
bigtree
(85,998 posts)you have a good day, Capt. Obvious. The wind is at your back and the sun is shining down upon you.
FSogol
(45,490 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)how on earth is posting this on DU giving it more exposure than it deserves? We're not he media. Are we supposed to do the elephant in the room thing re Rmoney?
It's important to be informed on what the repuke candidate says and does. How else are we to counter it and point out the bullshit in it?
bigtree
(85,998 posts)so you've disagreed. fine.
nolabear
(41,987 posts)It's realy, really important.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)if they're so all fired important for us to read.
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)and middle income Americans.
To the MittHole,
Point - Non-hetero people want to have families, and they have rights
Point - Although they do not suffer the horrible indignity of having their inheritance's taxed, the MittHole would raise taxes on low and middle income Americans so that the inheritances of the 1% need not be taxed
Entirely predictable RW spew.
What a MittHole.
cali
(114,904 posts)Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)wtf?
how is it even a value?
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)"inheritance free of taxation" is one of Mitt's most important values?
Ptah
(33,032 posts)At Sat May 12, 2012, 08:55 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
Excerpts from Romney's Liberty Speech
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002678478
REASON FOR ALERT:
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)
ALERTER'S COMMENTS:
I'm wondering about the value or appropriateness of presenting this excerpt from Romney's speech here without any opinion offered? Is this really okay, because it makes me ill to see this forum as some kind of open platform for the republican candidate's speeches.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat May 12, 2012, 09:05 AM, and the Jury voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: You have got to be kidding. How appropriate is raw information presented without opinion? ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: If the person who alerted on this post has a counter opinion to what the sociopath had to say, then offer it. Nothing is gained by pretending it doesn't exist. It provides the perfect opportunity to show what sort of lying hypocrite rMoney is.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I think Capt. Obvious is pointing out the hypocrisy in Mitt Romney. I don't think it is worthy of a hide.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: This is kind of odd, but I don't think it requires being hidden. Why not respond in the thread?
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I think the post is hilarious. There's a eyerolling amount of hypocrisy. We can't hide from Romney here. We should be dissecting every single word that pops from his slot.
Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
carry on!
99Forever
(14,524 posts).. it is indeed a VERY good thing that the alert system doesn't let those with an agenda abuse it with petty misuse, just because they are losing a disagreement.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)Do you want me to be argumentative?
I can accept that you think my complaint was 'petty.' I disagreed with posting the excerpts. That's a far sight from the type of disagreement that you're ridiculing me for. I made a complaint about the appropriateness of the thread. The appropriateness of a screed from the republican candidate. Is it really so awful that I can't bear to read unadulterated, fricking Romney drivel? Really? That's something to ridicule? Really? If questioning that is 'abuse' . . . incredible.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Carry on.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)know thine opponent.
rurallib
(62,424 posts)probably sticking my nose where it doesn't belong.
Are their kids paying others to have their kids?
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)I can say is 'Wow, does Romney have a tin ear or what?'
Or maybe this 'paid surrogacy' crap is red meat to the Anti-Choice knuckledraggers. To me, though, it reeks of class privilege.
cali
(114,904 posts)which doesn't exactly jibe with Mitt's life from the moment of conception position.
indie_voter
(1,999 posts)Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)Rambling junk. He really thinks he can get elected by saying nothing and appearing only on Fox News.
tjwash
(8,219 posts)It has reached a point where the Bentley has to go 2 whole days without a coat of wax and those damnable uppity car elevator repairmen might have to make him wait a few days because the parts to fix the shaft to the second floor of the garage have to come from China now. Luckily he can layoff a couple hundred people in his India sweatshops and make up the difference.
Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)oh yeah....
and cites personal resposibility as being 'valuable cultural asset'. Are those responsibilities only applied to the things that we actually REMEMBER doing? Those uncomfortable ugly incidents that may surface years later, things which we would rather not remember or have anyone else know about Mr. Romney?
One cultural asset I feel is essential is the ability to acknowledge and admit our own mistakes and wrongs. It is the only way we have any hope of learning from them or helping others to avoid making them themself. Denying and minimizing things we have done which cause us regret and shame isn't accepting responsibility, and doesn't speak well of an individual or society.
Actions speak louder than stupid commencement speaches.
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)"every time I turn around theres more of them, whether naturally or through paid surrogates..."
butterfly77
(17,609 posts)Mighty Mitt "Here I come to save the day!" Not.
Go away mittens back to leave it beaver land which doesn't exist for most people...
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)I take away his total refusal to recognize that more children is detrimental to the world. He says he is happy to have 18 grand children. I have nothing against those 18 grandchildren but can we continue to support Mormon families that have 5-6 children that then have 5-6 children? No we can't. He and his faith are being irresponsible to the future of mankind. But for Mormons this is a faith requirement because if they do that and they are sealed in the temple, then the afterlife for them is for their sealed wife and them to get children. The wife will be eternally pregnant with children to populate the planet God has given them.
Great way for a woman to spend eternity, i.e. pregnant. Apologize to my LDS participants but you have very scary beliefs.