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Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
Sat May 12, 2012, 09:29 AM May 2012

Excerpts from Romney's Liberty Speech

I’m not sure quite why, but lately I’ve found myself thinking about life in four-year stretches. And let’s just say that not everybody has filled these past four years with as much achievement as you have.

That’s a theme for another day, except for this reminder to you and other graduates across our country: Although opportunities seem scarce in this economy, it is not for nothing that you have spent this time preparing. America needs your talent and your energy, all the more now that our country’s in a tough spot. For you and so many young Americans, our current troubles can be discouraging. You are ready for jobs that were supposed to be ready for you. Millions wait on the day when there are jobs for everyone willing to work, and opportunities to match your hopes and your goals. But don’t lose heart, because that day is coming.

In the most practical, everyday terms, the best cultural assets are values as basic as personal responsibility, the dignity of hard work, inheritance free of taxation, and, above all, the commitments of family. Take those away, or take them for granted, and so many things can go wrong in a life. Keep them strong, and so many things will go right.

**

In this life, of course, the commitments that come closest to forever are those of family. Maybe you’vie heard that Ann and I have a pretty large family, and I’m sure glad I like having grandchildren because every time I turn around there’s more of them, whether naturally or through paid surrogates. Two more arrived last week, twin boys David and William, which brings us to eighteen grandchildren we have welcomed into the world.

Their great-grandfather, my Dad George Romney, was successful by any measure you’d care to apply. I asked him once, “What was your greatest accomplishment?” Without a moment’s pause, his answer was, “Raising you four kids.” I had his example to follow, and I have never once regretted missing any experience or opportunity in business in order to be with my wife and five sons. Regrets usually come the other way around, from missing moments with your children that don’t come again. The same holds true for time with your parents as the years fall away. Among the things in life that can be put off, being there when it matters most isn’t one of them.


http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-set-to-give-commencement-address-at-liberty
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Excerpts from Romney's Liberty Speech (Original Post) Capt. Obvious May 2012 OP
"Now get out there in the world, and hate anyone who's different from you and me." Scuba May 2012 #1
so what are we supposed to take from reading this on DU? bigtree May 2012 #2
Sure there's a point Capt. Obvious May 2012 #4
A republican site would be more appropriate for excerpts of the republlican candidate's speeches bigtree May 2012 #7
Sorry Capt. Obvious May 2012 #8
interesting bigtree May 2012 #10
Here's a thread you need to go complain about Capt. Obvious May 2012 #9
not the same at all, Capt. Obvious bigtree May 2012 #11
LOL Capt. Obvious May 2012 #12
no bigtree May 2012 #15
Guess we are not all Capt. Obviouses. What's the point? FSogol May 2012 #18
hell yes, there's a point- and I'm kind of shocked to see you object to it cali May 2012 #14
what I need to repeat myself? bigtree May 2012 #16
Know thine enemy. nolabear May 2012 #27
maybe we can make a new forum just for Romney's speeches bigtree May 2012 #29
But he would deny the "cutural assets" of family and "inheritance free taxation" from lower geckosfeet May 2012 #3
LOL! since when is "inheritance free of taxation" one of the best and most basic values? cali May 2012 #5
was going to ask this myself? Bluerthanblue May 2012 #21
Proving once again how out of touch Mitt is. PA Democrat May 2012 #6
And the jury speaks: 0-6 to LEAVE IT Ptah May 2012 #13
whoo hoo! bigtree May 2012 #19
Your little bit of snark, duly noted.. 99Forever May 2012 #23
you're way off there bigtree May 2012 #24
Seems the jury saw it as I did also. 99Forever May 2012 #25
You should take your complaints about the jury decision to H&M Capt. Obvious May 2012 #36
Yes- it's REALLY okay... stlsaxman May 2012 #31
WTF does "Grandchildren ---- through paid surrogates" mean? rurallib May 2012 #17
That caught my eye also. If that is actually what Romney said, all coalition_unwilling May 2012 #28
His last two grandchildren- and one other were born via paid surrogate cali May 2012 #32
Such a strange man, What a weird way to put it. indie_voter May 2012 #33
Says nothing. As usual. Faygo Kid May 2012 #20
the country is indeed in a tough stretch for the rmoneys of the world tjwash May 2012 #22
he's not sure why he's thinking in four year stretches? Bluerthanblue May 2012 #26
"A Handmaids Tale", anyone? stlsaxman May 2012 #30
Who in the fuck is he suppose to be.. butterfly77 May 2012 #34
While the poster may not have discussed it..... Swede Atlanta May 2012 #35

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
2. so what are we supposed to take from reading this on DU?
Sat May 12, 2012, 09:47 AM
May 2012

I'm kinda not seeing the point in giving this drivel more exposure than it deserves. Is there a point?

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
7. A republican site would be more appropriate for excerpts of the republlican candidate's speeches
Sat May 12, 2012, 10:00 AM
May 2012

. . . especially presented like you have here -- unremarked on by the poster. I don't think this forum should be a platform for Romney's speeches presented unadulterated, as you've done. It just makes me sick to think that his drivel deserves to be presented on this Democratic forum as if it has some relevance on its own.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
11. not the same at all, Capt. Obvious
Sat May 12, 2012, 10:04 AM
May 2012

what a slick deflection that was. I think I like this thread even less, if that's possible.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
15. no
Sat May 12, 2012, 10:23 AM
May 2012

you have a good day, Capt. Obvious. The wind is at your back and the sun is shining down upon you.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
14. hell yes, there's a point- and I'm kind of shocked to see you object to it
Sat May 12, 2012, 10:12 AM
May 2012

how on earth is posting this on DU giving it more exposure than it deserves? We're not he media. Are we supposed to do the elephant in the room thing re Rmoney?

It's important to be informed on what the repuke candidate says and does. How else are we to counter it and point out the bullshit in it?

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
29. maybe we can make a new forum just for Romney's speeches
Sat May 12, 2012, 11:09 AM
May 2012

if they're so all fired important for us to read.

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
3. But he would deny the "cutural assets" of family and "inheritance free taxation" from lower
Sat May 12, 2012, 09:47 AM
May 2012

and middle income Americans.

To the MittHole,

Point - Non-hetero people want to have families, and they have rights

Point - Although they do not suffer the horrible indignity of having their inheritance's taxed, the MittHole would raise taxes on low and middle income Americans so that the inheritances of the 1% need not be taxed

Entirely predictable RW spew.

What a MittHole.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
6. Proving once again how out of touch Mitt is.
Sat May 12, 2012, 09:59 AM
May 2012

"inheritance free of taxation" is one of Mitt's most important values?

Ptah

(33,032 posts)
13. And the jury speaks: 0-6 to LEAVE IT
Sat May 12, 2012, 10:08 AM
May 2012

At Sat May 12, 2012, 08:55 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Excerpts from Romney's Liberty Speech
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002678478

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

I'm wondering about the value or appropriateness of presenting this excerpt from Romney's speech here without any opinion offered? Is this really okay, because it makes me ill to see this forum as some kind of open platform for the republican candidate's speeches.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat May 12, 2012, 09:05 AM, and the Jury voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: You have got to be kidding. How appropriate is raw information presented without opinion? ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: If the person who alerted on this post has a counter opinion to what the sociopath had to say, then offer it. Nothing is gained by pretending it doesn't exist. It provides the perfect opportunity to show what sort of lying hypocrite rMoney is.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I think Capt. Obvious is pointing out the hypocrisy in Mitt Romney. I don't think it is worthy of a hide.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: This is kind of odd, but I don't think it requires being hidden. Why not respond in the thread?
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I think the post is hilarious. There's a eyerolling amount of hypocrisy. We can't hide from Romney here. We should be dissecting every single word that pops from his slot.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
23. Your little bit of snark, duly noted..
Sat May 12, 2012, 10:43 AM
May 2012

.. it is indeed a VERY good thing that the alert system doesn't let those with an agenda abuse it with petty misuse, just because they are losing a disagreement.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
24. you're way off there
Sat May 12, 2012, 10:51 AM
May 2012

Do you want me to be argumentative?

I can accept that you think my complaint was 'petty.' I disagreed with posting the excerpts. That's a far sight from the type of disagreement that you're ridiculing me for. I made a complaint about the appropriateness of the thread. The appropriateness of a screed from the republican candidate. Is it really so awful that I can't bear to read unadulterated, fricking Romney drivel? Really? That's something to ridicule? Really? If questioning that is 'abuse' . . . incredible.

rurallib

(62,424 posts)
17. WTF does "Grandchildren ---- through paid surrogates" mean?
Sat May 12, 2012, 10:25 AM
May 2012

probably sticking my nose where it doesn't belong.
Are their kids paying others to have their kids?

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
28. That caught my eye also. If that is actually what Romney said, all
Sat May 12, 2012, 11:00 AM
May 2012

I can say is 'Wow, does Romney have a tin ear or what?'

Or maybe this 'paid surrogacy' crap is red meat to the Anti-Choice knuckledraggers. To me, though, it reeks of class privilege.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
32. His last two grandchildren- and one other were born via paid surrogate
Sat May 12, 2012, 11:25 AM
May 2012

which doesn't exactly jibe with Mitt's life from the moment of conception position.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
20. Says nothing. As usual.
Sat May 12, 2012, 10:27 AM
May 2012

Rambling junk. He really thinks he can get elected by saying nothing and appearing only on Fox News.

tjwash

(8,219 posts)
22. the country is indeed in a tough stretch for the rmoneys of the world
Sat May 12, 2012, 10:39 AM
May 2012

It has reached a point where the Bentley has to go 2 whole days without a coat of wax and those damnable uppity car elevator repairmen might have to make him wait a few days because the parts to fix the shaft to the second floor of the garage have to come from China now. Luckily he can layoff a couple hundred people in his India sweatshops and make up the difference.

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
26. he's not sure why he's thinking in four year stretches?
Sat May 12, 2012, 11:00 AM
May 2012

oh yeah....

and cites personal resposibility as being 'valuable cultural asset'. Are those responsibilities only applied to the things that we actually REMEMBER doing? Those uncomfortable ugly incidents that may surface years later, things which we would rather not remember or have anyone else know about Mr. Romney?

One cultural asset I feel is essential is the ability to acknowledge and admit our own mistakes and wrongs. It is the only way we have any hope of learning from them or helping others to avoid making them themself. Denying and minimizing things we have done which cause us regret and shame isn't accepting responsibility, and doesn't speak well of an individual or society.

Actions speak louder than stupid commencement speaches.

stlsaxman

(9,236 posts)
30. "A Handmaids Tale", anyone?
Sat May 12, 2012, 11:17 AM
May 2012

"every time I turn around there’s more of them, whether naturally or through paid surrogates..."

 

butterfly77

(17,609 posts)
34. Who in the fuck is he suppose to be..
Sat May 12, 2012, 11:34 AM
May 2012

Mighty Mitt "Here I come to save the day!" Not.

Go away mittens back to leave it beaver land which doesn't exist for most people...

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
35. While the poster may not have discussed it.....
Sat May 12, 2012, 05:20 PM
May 2012

I take away his total refusal to recognize that more children is detrimental to the world. He says he is happy to have 18 grand children. I have nothing against those 18 grandchildren but can we continue to support Mormon families that have 5-6 children that then have 5-6 children? No we can't. He and his faith are being irresponsible to the future of mankind. But for Mormons this is a faith requirement because if they do that and they are sealed in the temple, then the afterlife for them is for their sealed wife and them to get children. The wife will be eternally pregnant with children to populate the planet God has given them.

Great way for a woman to spend eternity, i.e. pregnant. Apologize to my LDS participants but you have very scary beliefs.

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