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Panich52

(5,829 posts)
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 11:06 AM Jun 2015

God’s Police?: Missouri Police Department Adds National Motto To Cars

Americans United Blog

Greene County, Mo., police cars now read “In God We Trust,” and some residents aren’t pleased by the change.

In a letter to the Springfield News-Leader’s “Answer Man,” Laura Entwisle wrote, “I recently saw a Greene County sheriff's deputy's car with letters on the bumper that say, ‘In God We Trust.’ I called the sheriff's office and was told that Sheriff Jim Arnott decided to do this.”

“If taxpayer money was used, is it legal? I’m asking because I am not of a faith that identifies with the name ‘God’ and I don't think I'm the only one,” Entwisle concluded.

“Answer Man” Steve Pokin interviewed Arnott, who confirmed he added the phrase to police department vehicles about a year ago. “I made the decision. I had been meaning to do it since taking office in 2009 and I just got around to it,” he told Pokin. And he didn’t have much patience for Entwistle, or for other local residents who’ve complained about the change.

“I'm guessing she is offended by it. If that’s the case, I’m hoping that she does not use any of our currency either,” he said. “People ask me why I did it. The reason is because I like it.”

That explanation didn’t appease detractors. One, Thomas Essel, slammed Arnott’s statements as “conceited and downright pompous” in a letter to the editor.

“To cut off any detractors or critics at the pass, let me also say that Sheriff Arnott’s reasoning is not that the offending phrase is the official motto of the United States – which I find to be equally repugnant – but only ‘because I like it.’ What else could this be other than the blatant use of taxpayer money to fund Arnott's own personal religious agenda?” Essel asserted.

... Although the phrase doubles as the national motto, and is therefore likely a legal addition to the cars, there’s no question the sheriff’s move is motivated by sectarian bias. ...

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... The courts have ruled repeatedly that manifestations of “ceremonial deism,” like the national motto, don’t constitute a government endorsement of religion. It’s not a compelling argument, especially when you consider the sectarian origins of the national motto; it has been in use officially since 1956, thanks to a congressional resolution influenced by the Red Scare. It was adopted to establish the United States as a God-fearing country ...

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God’s Police?: Missouri Police Department Adds National Motto To Cars (Original Post) Panich52 Jun 2015 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author CurtEastPoint Jun 2015 #1
So transparent...actual meaning...we work for god, not you sniveling taxpayers. We also will be libdem4life Jun 2015 #2
The Republic of Gilead's police force. NutmegYankee Jun 2015 #3
Remind me again how we're different from the theocratic republic of Iran. valerief Jun 2015 #4
Because this isn't a national policy, GGJohn Jun 2015 #5
I don't have that much time... Oktober Jun 2015 #11
I find it perfectly appropriate... Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #6
LOL Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #10
Perfect! 99Forever Jun 2015 #12
he left the other part out onethatcares Jun 2015 #7
More magical thinking to substitute for actual judgment gratuitous Jun 2015 #8
Never liked the phrase. I'll tell you this: When I take a 747 to Europe, I trust the mechanics.. BlueJazz Jun 2015 #9
Not surprising considering truegrit44 Jun 2015 #13

Response to Panich52 (Original post)

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
2. So transparent...actual meaning...we work for god, not you sniveling taxpayers. We also will be
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 11:21 AM
Jun 2015

fearful, as god commanded many times, and act accordingly. Oh wait, that was around 4,000 years ago someone got that message. Yep, tried and true.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
5. Because this isn't a national policy,
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jun 2015

whereas Iran is a strict Islamic State where Islam governs EVERYTHING.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
11. I don't have that much time...
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 01:20 PM
Jun 2015

There are legitimate points to be made without hyperbolic hysteria... Thanks...

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
6. I find it perfectly appropriate...
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jun 2015

...given that I don't trust in God any more than I trust in the cops. But I am sure the cops actually exist...

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
12. Perfect!
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 01:30 PM
Jun 2015

I just wish that asshole cops were more like this magic super being, living in the clouds this jackass speaks of...


... as in:

NOT EXISTING IN THE REAL WORLD.

onethatcares

(16,172 posts)
7. he left the other part out
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:14 PM
Jun 2015

"all others pay cash"

Just think how that would look on civil forfeiture paperwork

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. More magical thinking to substitute for actual judgment
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:18 PM
Jun 2015

Part of the rationale (if you can call it that) in 1956 was that no real commie could ever utter the word "God." It would cause him to vanish in a puff of smoke or something. It was the same rationale behind loyalty oaths and other meaningless window dressing: Verbal theater dressed up as a security enhancement.

It would almost be funny except that the pecksniffs like Sheriff Arnott take it seriously enough that they will base career decisions and act in life-or-death situations on this dimwitted basis. In the 1950s, it wasn't unusual for a person who objected to magic words substituting for actual thought and policy to lose their jobs and be blacklisted from their professions. People of lower station and lesser means learned real quickly that opposing this nonsense might be a ticket to the hoosegow for "unamerican" thinking. If you discerned a certain similarity between this overbearing authoritarianism and soviet-style governance, that was sufficient to make you officially suspect.

Arnott clearly feels secure enough in his position six years in to drop the pretense of being sheriff for all the citizens of Greene County. As long as he can command or coerce a majority to support him, nobody in Greene County will have the wherewithal to oppose him. Spoiler alert: This sort of thing doesn't end well. People will lose their livelihoods, neighbors will be pitted against neighbors, and life in Greene County will be measurably more miserable for a lot of its citizens. Many of them won't mind, reckoning it to be part of the price they pay for curtailed liberty and freedom.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
9. Never liked the phrase. I'll tell you this: When I take a 747 to Europe, I trust the mechanics..
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jun 2015

..., the pilot and all associated people regarding the safety of that plane. As far as the God Thing, it's let way too many of those flying machines crash and kill all who were onboard. Sorry, God Thing, "In God we trust"...Ha!, I think not.

truegrit44

(332 posts)
13. Not surprising considering
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 01:46 PM
Jun 2015

Springfield, MO (Greene Co) is known to be the "belt buckle" of the bible belt. I should know I'm about 90 miles north of there,
not paradise believe me.

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