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Response to bluestateguy (Original post)
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Hekate
(90,769 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)Coventina
(27,159 posts)Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)I'm only here so I don't get fined
moondust
(20,002 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)The alternative approach can be found in this illustrative video:
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I don't think that method is terribly useful.
Rex
(65,616 posts)nt.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)sue when you get fired for doing/saying what you did or said.
It's not a real apology, but then, why should you have to apologize for what you did or said? Too damned much political correctness! (this part is sarcasm)
MADem
(135,425 posts)As for apologizing after getting it wrong, that didn't help Dan Rather...and he, at least, had his facts right, but his evidence wrong. Ms. Rhem doesn't seem to have even facts on her side, and she likely has a contract that allows the bosses to show her the door if she becomes a liability.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Unless Sen. Sanders was also at the pool party then, no, I don't think he would sue that cop.
MADem
(135,425 posts)That cop assaulted a teenager. He isn't going to apologize his way out of criminal charges. That interviewer didn't push Sanders' head into the grass and sit on him...!
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)But, as noted below, I don't know why people issue public apologies in the first place.
Apologies are never accepted.
MADem
(135,425 posts)My sense was that the poster may have been suggesting that Rehm had a lawyer write that thing she published. OP is vague... maybe that was a device to stimulate discussion...?
treestar
(82,383 posts)So they can speak and advocate for you. You are entitled to legal advice. This is a free country. It basically functions under the rule of law. Maybe there are problems, but generally the rule of law prevails. If you thought you could get into trouble over how you apologize, why should you not get to ask a lawyer what would you say to avoid that?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)No one has ever issued a public apology for anything that was considered "sufficient" anyway.
Who gives a shit whether someone who wronged a bunch of people somewhere apologizes for it in the media to them, you, or anyone else?
There is no conceivable combination of words, whether spoken by this guy, his lawyer, or anyone else, that is going to make anyone who has determined that the cop is a scumbag say, "Oh, okay, that's fine then."
So what's the point, really?
Calista241
(5,586 posts)It may sound fake, and not carry the weight I would want an apology to take. But if your future depends on it...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)"apologizing" and explaining the mitigating circumstances that it happened.
I don't know why the McKinney PD didn't understand that something could very well go wrong by sending him out and not having him sidelined for a bit and offered psychological counseling...or requring it...
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)I think they requested his resignation in record time because they know that the department might be liable sending an emotionally stressed officer out on a call.
How often does one respond to someone who just shot himself in front of his kids? I can't imagine dealing with that.
He very obviously couldn't deal with the subsequent call at the pool.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)nt
frylock
(34,825 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,362 posts)This faux apology is from JustABozoOnThisBus, not DU, Skinner, nor from Robb or any other alleged dingbats.
In the case that this non-apology apology is insufficient, a brief period of face-palming will be offered in lieu of actual rehab, thus resetting all counters for hides.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)A real apology requires that a person feels some sense of remorse over the action and want forgiveness.
A carefully worded apology by a lawyer does not address the person's intent.
elleng
(131,063 posts)(I'm a lawyer!!!)
meow2u3
(24,768 posts)A carefully worded letter of apology by one's lawyer sounds to me like three things: damage control; an admission of guilt; and a non-apolology apology for being caught doing something one shouldn't be doing.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)"First we kill all the lawyers" and then the proper spellers.