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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe relative silence regarding the decision to send troops back into Iraq . . .
. . . and to build more bases there, is positively stunning. From today's New York Times:
NAPLES, Italy The United States is considering establishing a new network of American military bases in Iraq to aid in the fight against the Islamic State, senior military and administration officials said Thursday, potentially deepening American involvement in the country amid setbacks for Iraqi forces on the battlefield.
Speaking to reporters aboard his plane during a trip to Italy, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff, Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, described a possible future campaign entailing the establishment of what he called lily pads American military bases around the country from which trainers would work with Iraqi security forces and local tribesmen in the fight against the Islamic State.
General Dempseys framework was confirmed by senior Obama administration officials, and comes after an earlier decision this week to send 450 trainers to establish a new military base to help Iraqi forces retake the city of Ramadi, the capital of Anbar Province. The general said that base could be the model for a new network of American training bases in other parts of the country.
You could see one in the corridor from Baghdad to Tikrit to Kirkuk to Mosul, General Dempsey said. Such sites, he said, could require troops in addition to the 3,550 that the president has authorized so far in the latest Iraq campaign, although he said later some of the troops at the new bases could come from forces already in Iraq.
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Faux pas
(14,686 posts)to address it at all.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)If so, most people are pragmatic enough to realize that something must be done.
They are a threat to the people of that region, but the people of that region need to stand up and fight for themselves.
America is not the world police or the world enforcer. US involvement only makes matters worse, kills more civilians, and creates more enemies. Until all the people of this world demand peace we will never have it.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts). . . contrary to the recent historical witness, that U.S. military presence will somehow magically be effective in stabilizing the region this time around, in a way that it was unable to be effective for 12 straight years?
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)They're already fighting ISIS in Iraq and Syria.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)63splitwindow
(2,657 posts)the lard-ass windbags sitting behind their keyboards bloviating about sending America's youth off to be maimed and killed fighting in a Muslim civil war.
WDIM
(1,662 posts)Why would they want to stop ISIL if arm manufactures, bomb makers, tank builders, and all the other war mongers are making billions in profits?
Obama is just giving them exactly what they want. Another Neo-con with liberal/progressive lipservice.
No Iraqi ever attacked an American until we illegally invaded their country.
Now they are trying to pull us back in with a war that is being fully financed and produced by the military industrial complex with only one goal in mind keep the war profiteers rich.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)I stand with you.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)This as wrong as when Bush went into Iraq. We need to be out of there and stay out.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)locks
(2,012 posts)is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. War and insanity are the same thing.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts). . . then "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results" is some folks' definition of 'pragmatism!'
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Hardly cost us anything and he kept the religious nuts under control and Iraq was a thriving country. Tell me again why he was taken out?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)That's when his fate was sealed.
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,998512,00.html
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)I never heard any of our truth-bearing politicians claim that.
I do remember Clinton's SoS claiming the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children was worth the price, tho. That was their truth then but known to be a big ass lie today. Are you saying they are lying to us about Iraq, again?
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)It IS what you will be voting for.
All Hillary supporters should take heed.
You WILL be voting for more military intervention.