What you need for Saturday's Clinton Rally

[brooklynite]

We can't wait to see you on Saturday at the Hillary for America official launch event -- we're so excited that you're going to be a part of this day! Here's some information you'll need ahead of time:
When and Where
- Saturday, June 13th doors open at 9:30 a.m. - 1:00 p.m.
- FDR Four Freedoms Park, Roosevelt Island, NY

What to bring
- Your printed ticket -- the confirmation email you received when you registered for the event, you can also use your phone to show your ticket. Children under the age of 13 do not need a ticket to enter the event.
- Small personal cameras and cell phones will be permitted.
- Guests are encouraged to bring water in standard-sized, clear plastic bottles, as there will be a limited supply at the event.

What not to bring
- There will be airport style security. Items that will NOT BE permitted include food, liquids other than water, large bags, large purses, backpacks, strollers, umbrellas, noise makers, bullhorns, posters, signs, pets other than licensed service animals, sharp objects, or weapons.

What to expect
- Limited cell service on Roosevelt Island.
- The event is standing only -- seating will be provided for ADA guests.
- Food is not permitted in the park, so make sure to have breakfast before you arrive.
- Be prepared for a hot summer day; sunglasses, sunscreen, and comfortable shoes are highly encouraged.

How to get to Four Freedoms Park
The best way to get to the park is by public transportation -- parking on the island will be extremely limited.

- Subway: Take the F Train to the Roosevelt Island stop. Follow signs to Four Freedoms Park.

- Tram: From Manhattan: Get on the tram at 59th Street & Second Avenue Station. Travel time to Roosevelt Island is 4-5 minutes, with trams departing every 10 minutes. Exit at Tramway Station on Roosevelt Island. Follow signs to Four Freedoms Park.

- Bus: From Queensboro Plaza overpass, take stairway down north side to corner of Crescent and Bridge Plaza North. Take the Q102 Queens Surface bus to Roosevelt Island. Follow signs to Four Freedoms Park.

We want to accommodate as many ADA guests as possible, so if you know that you will need assistance on-site, please contact [e-mail] to make necessary arrangements. ADA guests are welcome to bring one guest with them into the ADA section.

This is going to be a great event and we're thrilled to have you -- one of our best supporters -- there as we launch into the next phase of this campaign.

Thanks,

Hillary for America

[leftofcool]

1. And let me emphasize WATER!

I wish I was going.

[GoneOffShore]

2. Not Kool-Aid?

[leftofcool]

4. Predictable response. But thank you for kicking this thread.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. ...

[hootinholler]

38. Actually i bet you could put some crystal lihgt packets in a pocket

Then you'd have flavor. The liquid drop flavorings would be illegal.

[morningfog]

5. No food, strollers, liquids or umbrellas? Seems excessive.

I wonder if all her public events will be like this?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. You can't bring umbrellas to concerts and sporting events for obvious reasons./NT

[LordGlenconner]

17. Hilarious to watch people so consumed by their dislike of her

That they have to start picking apart what is SOP in large outdoor events from coast to coast.

I guess that poster doesn't get out much, maybe.

[morningfog]

46. You guess wrong.

But please continue you make assumptions all you want.

[brooklynite]

21. Those are park policies...

...as was clear in the message.

[RufusTFirefly]

23. And she had no choice but to hold the rally there

Thus, making the risible link between Keynesian Roosevelt and arch neo-liberal Clinton.

[kath]

36. Ah, yes, she is soooooo like FDR, the similarities are just overwhelming.

yeah. Right.

[RufusTFirefly]

37. Gee whiz! But if we say it enough times, maybe it will really become true!!

[RufusTFirefly]

30. The setup seems reminiscent of recent WTO meetings.

What a curious coincidence.

[morningfog]

45. Those are park policies? I've never been there,

wouldn't know.

[brooklynite]

47. The Park is considered a memorial...probably more stringent rules.

[NightWatcher]

6. This sounds very complicated with too many moving parts

I understand the symbolism she's going for with the FDR thing, but this sounds like it has the possibility of blowing up in her face. What if the subway has a hiccup, or people have trouble getting to the tiny island?

Obama did it in downtown Springfield, Il where people could park anywhere and simply hike up to the event. There were no "take the bus to the subway to the special stairs and follow the signs..."

Yes, I realize that I'm obviously a Hillary Hater for questioning the logistics involved, but the more moving parts you have, the more likely one of those vital parts has a problem.

[jeff47]

8. Nah, if something goes wrong you just argue Clinton's support is overwhelming.

And if that doesn't work, you blame de Blasio.

[leftofcool]

11. Tiny island? Has 8 million middle class folks.

People have no problem getting to Times Square on New Years Eve.

[Fumesucker]

15. The island the event is going to be on is quite small..

[nichomachus]

18. And the little tippity tip that Hillary's hordes will try to inhabit is even tinier n/t

[MissDeeds]

27. Small venue will make the crowd appear bigger

[nichomachus]

16. There are 8 million people on Roosevelt Island? Who knew.

And apparently you haven't been out and about in NYC on New Year's Eve. And are you trying to say that Manhattan has 8 million middle class folks? Bwahahahahaha. Check the rents there.

[Thinkingabout]

12. What if it is a very successful rally, what if there are lots of people sharing a great

Moment in history. What if a lot of people who are unable to attend this event but are watching and cheering for Hillary. My glass is half full not half empty, I am an eternal optimist and never pessimistic.

[NightWatcher]

13. I hope it comes off great. I'd like to see huge crowds everywhere a Dem shows up

and people like Santorum continue to get 1 or 2 people at their events.

I hope the Dems that vote in the primaries outnumber the repukes 5 to 1 and they go into full "shit their pants" mode as they pick which poor, dumb bastard to send to the slaughter (just like Dole when Clinton ran for re-election).

[Thinkingabout]

14. I will not be there in person but watching from afar but the spirit is with Hillary.

[lunamagica]

31. same here. eom

[Motown_Johnny]

10. The Forecast is for rain that afternoon

I hope it holds off long enough for everyone to get somewhere safe and dry after the event ends.

Maybe those cheap little disposable rain parkas would be a good idea since umbrellas are not allowed.

[nichomachus]

19. What you need is to stay home and watch it on TV

Four Freedoms Park is not meant for this type of event. It has very limited access and, more important, egress.

The park itself is four acres. Assuming that the four acres are all usable space, which I doubt, the upper safety limit for this size of facility is about 80,000 people standing. And that's being extremely generous. I won't even factor in the staging, other restricted areas, seating for handicapped, dignitaries, etc. However, that assumes sufficient exits -- which there are not. The lower end of the island comes to a point. The park is located on the point. The point sticks into the river. The only real means of egress are to the north -- and the ways off the island entirely are limited -- one subway line and a tram.

Suppose they let 80,000 people in the park -- and shame on FDNY if they do -- and there is some kind of "incident' near the lower end. There would be a rush north. If panic sets in, expect a stampede.

I understand Hillary wanting to don the mantle of the Roosevelts, but I wouldn't go near that event if you paid me.

[RufusTFirefly]

22. Sheer chaos! It's not a bug. It's a feature!! n/t

[4139]

25. 80,000 people? 600-800 porta potties?

1 per hundred is fairly standard at running races

Addendum,( I had to 'go').... Look in at pics of the park, I don't know how they do that stylishly

[KamaAina]

20. Travel tips from an ex-Queens resident

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026816147

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. Well nice to know that as a diabetic

that always carries food everywhere I go, I could not attend either as media or general public.

Not a slam on her. The security is what is driving that. But even if I were a partisan (I am not, and clearly on the other side of the country) I could not attend. Period, end of discussion, full stop.

[MADem]

28. Uh...You would be accommodated under ADA.

Did you not read the guidance?

They might want a doc's note if you want to stroll in with a three course meal. They don't want picnickers, but I'll bet the usual hard candies or glucose tabs are not an issue either.

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. I am sure I would not want to bother with that

and I am sure I am not the only one.

As I said, it is nice to know. I hope other events and other candidates (and her) don't continue with these trends.

I am also sure in her case some of it is driven by Secret Service and their needs. Unlike most candidates she already has a detail.

[MADem]

32. Yeah whatever. You would be accommodated if you had a medical need.

That's the bottom line.


If it were your favorite candidate's event, you'd be justifying everything you decry.

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. I am voting for big money

so he\she\it will win.

So you can leave that partisan crap at the end of the driveway.

I am pointing out that MOST people I know who have a medical condition that is NOT obvious, believe it or not diabetes is not, we do not carry a doctor's note everywhere, nor do we want to bother with it at all times

Now enjoy this. I am sure somebody will make a big deal out of it. I will be at lunch with family and I hope all the talk we have about the race, or politics is zero to none.

I will watch the stream later from the good folks at CSPAN... see really no need to go either... and write the launch story like I have done for every candidate. Perhaps you can tell me, when are the greens launching? Not that I will bother posting ANY OF THAT here. Procedural, as far as we can, none partisan stories are not to the taste of partisans.

I also hope she, or likely her campaign, posts the speech SOMEWHERE, so we can link to the speech.


But you are correct, you got my number... since big money will win... and voting is done just to keep in practice....

[MADem]

40. You just made a big deal out of it.

Even though there's a huge notation on the announcement about ADA accommodation.

So...whatever.

So much for journalistic rigor...!

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. If pointing out that this will make people stay home

is making a big deal... you are correct, whatever.

I am not going to care much about discussing with partisans this. I am just telling you how it is in the real world, not in partisan land.

Oh and by the way, I am not blaming her... I started this by saying this is the Secret Service and security concerns, NOT clinton


You might want to reread this

[MADem]

42. No. I think I will leave you right where you sit.

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. whatever

[randys1]

26. I thought this was gonna be an attack Hillary thread and the joke

would be

"What you need


3 forms of Id
bank account proving you have over $10 million in the bank

etc

glad to see it was a sincere thread, for a while anyway

[leftofcool]

35. This is why we usually post these things in the Hillary forum.

The hijackers can't help themselves.

[MADem]

44. It's like flypaper!! They just HAVE to pee on the tree!

It's like a lone cypress in a dog park, threads like these!

There's always a bright side...by their words we shall know them. Some of these words are going to be tough to walk back, too.

[hootinholler]

39. I hope she has a great rally

Seriously.

We've heard so little from her, I hope she makes her positions clear.

[Evergreen Emerald]

48. Seriously. We have heard a lot from her.

Apparently you are refusing to listen.

[Jester Messiah]

33. A shovel and a snorkel? [nt]