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snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
2. What real leaders do is to insert themselves into situations to influence
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:10 PM
Jun 2015

outcomes. Labor leaders don't have a seat in the Senate but that didn't stop them from using their influence to inform and rally Americans to fight this. Hilary never stepped up.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
6. Exactly but the meme that she doesn't have a vote is
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:15 PM
Jun 2015

being used to exonerate her silence and inaction.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
7. of course it is
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:17 PM
Jun 2015

we have some cleaver posters here and we have some who thinks they are. Big difference in the two

Broward

(1,976 posts)
3. Well, it'd be nice to know where Hillary stands on the issue.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:42 PM
Jun 2015

Assuming (and hoping) the TPP is dead in the water, then she failed to voice her opinion when it mattered and could have influenced the outcome. Now, anything she says should be taken with a grain of salt.

neverforget

(9,437 posts)
5. She can certainly let us know her opinion and why she feel's that way.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:52 PM
Jun 2015

I expect that of people running for office. It's part of being an informed populace and voter.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
9. So is the latest talking point to come down from on high?
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:19 PM
Jun 2015

Seeing this excuse being used a LOT here today.

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