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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBERNIE tells corporate America: 'You want us to buy your products - Stop outsourcing."
Bernie: If Fast Track passes, TPP will pass. There's no question about that.
Ed, there is a reason why virtually every corporation in America, the pharmaceutical industry, and Wall Street want this to be passed, and there is a reason, as you've just mentioned, why every union, many environmental groups and religious groups are against it. Because anyone who looks at history understands that our trade polices--from NAFTA, CAFTA, to China--have been a disaster for the American workers. Since 2001, we have lost over 60,000 factories, not all attributable to trade, but a lot of it is. Millions of decent-paying jobs.
Our demand now must be to corporate America, and say to them: 'You want us to buy your products, the time is long overdue for you to stop outsourcing. Let's create and manufacture those products here in the United States.' That's what this is about.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/16/1393674/-Bernie-Sanders-tells-Ed-exactly-what-he-thinks-about-Fast-Track-Authority-and-the-TPP-video
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)At the rate we're going, we won't be able to buy their shit anyway.
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)When you look at China, their middle class is larger then the population of the US.
So why bother with the US, when China covers, and India is growing.
These trade deals should benefit the citizens for our country, but it only ever benefits
the US/Multinational corporations.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Corporations don't have any allegiance to the United States, they are multinational entities, therefore they don't have to start businesses in America in order to sell in America. And most Americans don't care enough to not buy the cheapest goods available.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)funniest things I have heard this year is the WalMart is losing money because people are not buying. The eventual outcome of outsourcing is that workers have less to spend. I for one buy a lot of the not absolutely necessary items at rummage sales or I do without.
Henry Ford understood that as soon as he made his first car. If workers cannot afford to buy the products they make then you will not be able to sell them.
appalachiablue
(41,171 posts)to devour resources and people for increased profit. Transnational locusts rule, for now.
~ Video, Locusts Swarm Egypt
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)We all save pennies by purchasing the least expensive products. I can't imagine a hard working family with two little kids paying 20 bucks for a package of 3 pieces of underwear for their toddler when they can get them at Wal-Mart for 6 bucks. Maybe Bernie can imagine that though.
Romeo.lima333
(1,127 posts)then the jobs go there then youre out of work. maybe some of us can try to imagine that
historylovr
(1,557 posts)We can't afford not to buy cheaply made goods that fall apart within six months, which then drives the demand for more cheaply made goods because we have to replace them over and over, which winds up costing us more. I hear all the time that that's what we want though. But "want" is not the same as "have to by necessity."
Romeo.lima333
(1,127 posts)Romeo.lima333
(1,127 posts)interest. people demand lower and lower prices then wonder why their own wages are stagnating
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)What if they don't necessarily need Americans to buy their products?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)literally centuries.
When your business needs something that is not a part of the core competencies of the business, you outsource the production of what you need.
Everybody does it and has done it for as long as there has been commerce.
What Bernie is objecting to is OFFSHORING. He even seems to be a bit upset about NEARSHORING.
What companies that have offshored services have discovered is, quality suffers. In many cases these services are being repatriated, whether via internally provided services or outsourced to a domestic provider. The offshoring done last decade was done for short term gains in labor arbitrage. If you maintain outsourced services but pull them into domestic providers while contractually obligating that such services remain domestic, quality improves and long term gains can be achieved.
In fact, many more rural areas such as in Indiana and portions of Kentucky and Michigan are prime locations for domestic repatriated outsourced IT and other back office services.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Basically multinational corporations have committed treason and should be treated accordingly.