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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:21 AM Jun 2015

On the "news" media coverage of the horror in SC

Leaving aside for just a short moment the fathomless horror of what has taken place in South Carolina, I need to make note of something that compounded the sickness in my stomach.

I read the articles on the massacre this morning, but wanted more, so I started flipping back and forth between CNN and MSNBC for further coverage...and got a tidal wave of commercials on both. It just kept going on both networks, so I actually decided to time it: less than five minutes of actual news, followed by nearly six minutes of ads.

At one point, "liberal" MSNBC finished their avalanche of ads and came back to the studio, where the anchor basically said, "We're continuing our coverage, this is just terrible, we'll be right back," and another five minutes of commercials unfolded. CNN was no better. I turned it off in disgust.

No one has to tell me the "news" media sucks. I've made a career out of describing it, dissecting it, and working for an organization trying to be better than it. This, however, was notably egregious, and I'll tell you why.

Columbine coverage: no commercials, and I remember that clearly. Sandy Hook coverage: no commercials, and I remember that clearly. Massacre at a Black church? Buy insurance buy a car buy this bladder pill GE is awesome buy more insurance "This is terrible we'll be right back" buy a car buy a car buy insurance for that car buy this boner pill, lather rinse repeat.

Two schools and a church. What's the difference?

The difference is binary. The difference is Black and White.

Call me cynical for thinking ad placement is a bellweather for attitude, but in my eyes, it's grotesquely vivid. Binary. The One, and the Zero. I got 20 minutes of commercials and seven minutes of news about a White kid massacring Black parishioners - including a state elected official who was also the pastor - in one of the most historic churches in the nation.

Sick.

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On the "news" media coverage of the horror in SC (Original Post) WilliamPitt Jun 2015 OP
The American terrorist news algorithm is sacred: Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #1
+1 Scuba Jun 2015 #3
Right on! kentuck Jun 2015 #9
+1 daleanime Jun 2015 #11
excellent heaven05 Jun 2015 #12
Love flowcharts - they are actually pretty accurate. Maybe some for terrorists? erronis Jun 2015 #13
Not to worry, Fox has it covered so the simple minded tools that watch can understand. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #17
Brilliant cntrygrl Jun 2015 #22
Spot on CanonRay Jun 2015 #2
The difference is Black and White. tavernier Jun 2015 #4
Massacre suspect caught! Buy 4 tires and get a $60 gift card! Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #5
Seriously??? Those ads disappeared on DU during the previous events? hunter Jun 2015 #7
Darn - I don't even see these. erronis Jun 2015 #15
I had to get AdBlock for my iPhone awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #25
Damn, buy a star already. SalviaBlue Jun 2015 #20
Good point. jwirr Jun 2015 #6
thank you heaven05 Jun 2015 #8
Sick marions ghost Jun 2015 #10
Waiting on the Media to Call Dylann Roof a Terrorist..... LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #14
This country is so fucked up. mnhtnbb Jun 2015 #16
FAUX news take SoLeftIAmRight Jun 2015 #18
Ah yes the "hook". "We have this super special guest coming up next", Snotcicles Jun 2015 #19
which is why I've stopped watching that sort of media. PatrynXX Jun 2015 #21
I noticed that last night project_bluebook Jun 2015 #23
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #24
K&R marym625 Jun 2015 #26
To be fair, moondust Jun 2015 #27

erronis

(15,379 posts)
13. Love flowcharts - they are actually pretty accurate. Maybe some for terrorists?
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:38 PM
Jun 2015

What to attack?
What religion, color, race?
What media attention will I get? Do I want Fux or CNN or even ABC?
Should I be a martyr (try to commit suicide) or be an evangelist for my stupidology?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
17. Not to worry, Fox has it covered so the simple minded tools that watch can understand.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:43 PM
Jun 2015

Isn't that the beauty of Fox, boiling down complex concepts so that idiots are convinced only idiots understand?

hunter

(38,337 posts)
7. Seriously??? Those ads disappeared on DU during the previous events?
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:21 PM
Jun 2015

No they did not.



DU ads are placed by computer algorithms, day in and day out, with occasional tweaks by admins to keep the most blatantly offensive ads from appearing, as best google allows.

In television "news" a human program director decides to drop ads for breaking news of national importance.

U.S.A. "news" media is utterly transparent. To them murders of white people, and terrorism against white people, are far more important than murders of anyone else, or terrorism against anyone else.

Personally I've abandoned U.S.A. television news entirely. It's no different than the crap and propaganda we used to sneer at when the Soviet Union did it.

In most of the U.S.A. the only time the local news shows non-white people is in "The Scary Non-White Person of the Day" feature, usually a mug shot taken by someone who was probably fired from the Department of Motor Vehicles for taking unflattering driver's license photos.

In the U.S.A. television news is a sick racist joke, and it's not just Fox.

erronis

(15,379 posts)
15. Darn - I don't even see these.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:40 PM
Jun 2015

I'll have to remove all the thousands of layers of spam/ad filters to be able to support DU by buying Yokohama tires or Extra-Strength Viagra.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
25. I had to get AdBlock for my iPhone
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 07:00 PM
Jun 2015

about 50% of the time I went to a page on DU, it would reload 5 or 6 times due to problems, then crash. I can't afford to get my star right now. AdBlock has killed all ads on DU, and now I have no problems with pages crashing. For IOS it was 99 cents- I am sure the price is similar for Android.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
14. Waiting on the Media to Call Dylann Roof a Terrorist.....
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:39 PM
Jun 2015

Now Andrea Mitchell at MSNBC is interviewing Mark Sanford no less. The so-called "LIBERAL" Network....

This is will end well.....

mnhtnbb

(31,408 posts)
16. This country is so fucked up.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:41 PM
Jun 2015

I belong to a private group on fb--just about a dozen friends--most of them Republican,
and we all came together through the process of losing weight several years ago.
This morning one person mentioned the terrorist attack and killing of 9 people last night--one--
on the thread started every day.

I just posted I'm done with them. I do not know how to talk to Republicans anymore. How can anyone
support them? Faux Noise is relentless in their propagandizing; Republicans want to limit
democracy and individual right to vote; Republicans announced at the beginning of Obama's presidency
that they would thwart him at every opportunity. And they have. They want to control women's
reproduction. And all they want is endless war. They don't give a shit about the environment. Anything
to make $$. And someone in the White House who isn't white? Well, the hatred and vitriol is unimaginable.

I am so fucking sick of them.

And Nikki Haley can go fuck herself.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
19. Ah yes the "hook". "We have this super special guest coming up next",
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:50 PM
Jun 2015

than a cluster of for or five commercials, the host appears to say "our super special guest is next" followed by another five or six commercials. MSNBC is especially bad about it.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
21. which is why I've stopped watching that sort of media.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:11 PM
Jun 2015

streaming maybe but I learn more by reading. a video comes up on cnn and bonk I hit the back button

 

project_bluebook

(411 posts)
23. I noticed that last night
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:25 PM
Jun 2015

After midnight, tuned across the AM band, not a word, nothing but the same ol right wing talk crap. If a black man went to a white church and did this it would be 24/7 on all networks, all stations.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
24. LOL ...
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:28 PM
Jun 2015

Last night, I saw on DU that CNN was doing coverage. I have never watch CNN, except in airports and hotel rooms, so I had to scroll through the guide to find it. Finally, I saw CNN and recognized Anderson Cooper 360 ... So I clicked on it. I sat through a couple commercials and rushed into the kitchen to put on some coffee (keeping an ear out for when the station returned to the coverage) ... I finished putting on the coffee and return to watch, still more commercials.

I actually went back to the guide to make such I was on CNN, and not one of those QVC-sell you something channels.

I turned it off in disgust, as well; but, didn't make the connection you have. Thanks.

moondust

(20,016 posts)
27. To be fair,
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 12:39 PM
Jun 2015

the ads have been sucking up more and more airtime for years. Lawrence O'Donnell's show is the worst of them all in that respect. I suppose management is selling as much airtime to advertisers as they possibly can and it's making TV unwatchable. I did notice that it seemed even worse than usual last night.

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