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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI was wrong...
...on the TPA vote.
I was under the impression that all 3 parts of the treaty were to be passed or they would all go under?
However, it is now my understanding that Boehner separated the parts whereby 2 of the 3 parts can pass without giving the President the authority that he wants?
Can someone clarify this for me? Where does this TPP bill stand at this time?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)The politicians are mostly owned in fee simple now.
And the few that aren't are trivialized as much as possible by the ones that are.
prayin4rain
(2,065 posts)Gothmog
(145,635 posts)The approval of the Senate was based on and conditioned on all three bills being approved and if one is not, then they have to go back to the Senate where there may be a filibuster
jeff47
(26,549 posts)So TPA passing without TAA means the Senate has to take another vote. If that passes the Senate, then it can go to Obama.
TAA was required to stop a Democratic filibuster, and funding TAA via Medicare cuts was required to stop a Republican filibuster. So there is some work for the pro-TPP side to get the new bill through the Senate.
Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)First of all, they're not three parts of the treaty; they're three distinct bills:
TPA (Trade Promotion Authority) is what's commonly called "fast track"
TAA (Trade Adjustment Assistance) is a program to assist workers displaced by international trade agreements; it exists separate of any given treaty
TPP (The Trans pacific Partnership) is the treaty of which you speak
As I said, these are three separate provisions. POTUS wants Congress to pass TPA so that the passage of TPP will be smoother. The Senate couldn't pass TPA on its own, so they bundled it with TAA in order to bring on just enough Dems to pass it. Then it went to the House in that form, where it died. So Boehner unbundled it and, having removed TAA (which Republicans hate because it helps people), got TPA passed.
So now TPA goes back to teh Senate, which has to repass it on its own. If it passes there, then fast track is in place.
Obama, however, has said he won't sign TPA unless a TAA bill is also on his desk. So even if both chambers pass TPA, they still both have to pass TAA to get it (if Obama's telling teh truth).
And all of that is separate from TPP, which hasn't even been introduced in either House yet. Moreover, TPP can be introduced even if TPA (and TAA) fail; but without TPA, Congress can amend teh TPP, which is exactly what teh White House doesn't want.
Clear as mud?
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Thanks!