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hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:50 AM Jun 2015

I know which side I'm on and it's NOT on the side of the corporate stooges

that run the Democratic Party at the national level.

And I don't give a rat's ass about anyone here that tries to tell me that I'm giving the election to the repukes with my attitude.

When the effects are the same how are they really different?
That's like asking do you want to come down with smallpox or syphilis.

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I know which side I'm on and it's NOT on the side of the corporate stooges (Original Post) hobbit709 Jun 2015 OP
Saying both parties are the same is just upaloopa Jun 2015 #1
On the level of corporate interest RoccoR5955 Jun 2015 #3
Bingo Populist_Prole Jun 2015 #20
When both support the corporate bills how exactly are they different. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #5
They are the same madokie Jun 2015 #10
sorry, on some issues, there's not a hair's width of difference between them cali Jun 2015 #8
Self imposed voter suppression. The GOP loves this as much as self-deportation. marble falls Jun 2015 #2
Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #4
See reply #6 hobbit709 Jun 2015 #7
I'm voting. Have in every election since I turned 21. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #6
We need to change the ballot system, there's no winning with a third party vote in two party system. marble falls Jun 2015 #9
There you go. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #12
It can be unrigged, but it won't be if we don't vote. Supporting Barney Sanders is GOOD start. marble falls Jun 2015 #13
No winning in a two party system? Tell me because I forgot, A Simple Game Jun 2015 #15
I absolutely want our Congressmen in Washington. None of them are in DC full time. Look at the... marble falls Jun 2015 #17
You know what happens when they spend time with their own? A Simple Game Jun 2015 #21
Their own are the Kochs and the Tea Party. Voters are a minor inconveniance. marble falls Jun 2015 #22
Your circumstance is not unique ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #18
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos Deny and Shred Jun 2015 #11
One manifestation, one vote. marble falls Jun 2015 #14
If I had to choose between syph and smallpox.... JohnnyRingo Jun 2015 #16
Thank you. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #19

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
20. Bingo
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 12:36 PM
Jun 2015

If I'm ( or any ) are to be impoverished, a few social issue crumbs aren't going to assuage that.

Too many look at the divide between the parties in a macro sense, as if it were a math equation where the highest number of "plusses" wins. When it comes to one's own livelihood: Dead is dead.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
10. They are the same
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:54 AM
Jun 2015

Hillary will be no different. Bernie on the other hand will be. One way to judge a persons character is to look at their past. Bernie passes this test, Hillary not so much.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
4. Yep ...
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:34 AM
Jun 2015

But it's far easier, than ... you know ... getting involved beyond typing stuff on the internets.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
6. I'm voting. Have in every election since I turned 21.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:45 AM
Jun 2015

It's getting harder to do so while carrying a barf bag and holding my nose.
I've always said I'm a Democrat by default since there is no viable Socialist option.
I come from a long line of hard core Socialists

marble falls

(57,134 posts)
9. We need to change the ballot system, there's no winning with a third party vote in two party system.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:52 AM
Jun 2015

There ought to be a runoff in all elections of three candidate ballots if the leader doesn't break 51%. Another thing I'd like to see is a "none of the above" option. If it wins or comes in second where the winner has less than 51%, there needs to be a re-slating of candidates.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
15. No winning in a two party system? Tell me because I forgot,
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:46 AM
Jun 2015

is Bernie a Democrat or a Republican?

But yes what you suggest would help. So would having the Representatives and Senators stay home and vote electronically. Make them walk among the people they represent instead of other Senators and Representatives. Let them have lunch and dinner with their constituents instead of lobbyists.

There is no longer a need for our legislators to be in Washington full time.

marble falls

(57,134 posts)
17. I absolutely want our Congressmen in Washington. None of them are in DC full time. Look at the...
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:56 AM
Jun 2015

last four or five Congresses, they made a point of not being in session. Going home won't make them "mingle" with the hoipaloi, they spend heir time with their own.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
21. You know what happens when they spend time with their own?
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jun 2015

They start to represent their own. Think about it!

By the way, many rarely go "home", to mention one, when do you think the last time McCain went home?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
18. Your circumstance is not unique ...
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 12:23 PM
Jun 2015

as an African-American in America, there has never been a Pro-Black option (let alone, a VIABLE option) ... the closest I've seen, in my voting lifetime, was The Rev. Al in 2004.

But it is what it is.

I just, really, dislike the dramatic "barf bag" and "nose holding" imagery for doing what is a everyday activity, choosing the best, of available options.

And those option don't grow spontaneously ... they are the product of hard and slow work.

JohnnyRingo

(18,638 posts)
16. If I had to choose between syph and smallpox....
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:49 AM
Jun 2015

I'd take both over the ebola infection that is a republican leadership.

I think you make a silly and all too simple straw man argument to support your candidate, but I'll play along. Claiming that there's no difference between the parties is absurd.

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