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Hekate

(90,755 posts)
3. And the Berlin Wall was in Soviet territory, not in the U.S. Nonetheless, it was the one good thing
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:35 PM
Jun 2015

....that Ronald Reagan ever did, to shine the international spotlight on that evil symbol at just the right moment.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
4. That doesn't change the fact that this is a states issue, not a federal issue,
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:49 PM
Jun 2015

now I would say that the good citizens of SC should march on the state capitol and demand that symbol of hatred and racism be removed, failing that, it should be forcibly removed and pissed upon before being burned.

Hekate

(90,755 posts)
8. 'Scuse me? The USSR possessed half of Berlin and half of Germany after WW II. I distinctly remember
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:25 PM
Jun 2015

It was hard to miss. I was visiting family friends in California the summer that monstrosity went up, and I was 13. The mother in that household was an Austrian survivor of the Holocaust, and she had some rather salty opinions on the news. I could also look at a map and see where Berlin was vis a vis West Germany and East Germany.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
10. That doesn't chang the fact that the Berlin Wall was on German terroritory, not Soviet terroritory.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:27 PM
Jun 2015

Hekate

(90,755 posts)
11. Way to miss the point, but all the more reason for it to come down. So what about that hateful flag?
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:30 PM
Jun 2015

Or are you going to deflect some more?

realFedUp

(25,053 posts)
6. Of course the wall was going to come down anyway
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:58 PM
Jun 2015

Abracadabra......like Russia getting kicked out of Afganistan....they couldn't afford to stay.
But it is refreshing for some of our leaders to say today, it should be in a museum, where historical stuff, good, bad and ugly gets put on display.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
13. that wall was coming down no matter what
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:32 PM
Jun 2015

The social and economic pressures within the USSR made that inevitable. Reagan may as well been yelling at the sun to set. Just because it happened didn't mean that his asking for it to happen caused it.

It would seem that the social pressures within SC have not developed to the point where that symbol of hatred can be seen for what it is.



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