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In the latest food scandal to hit China, authorities have seized almost half a billion dollars worth of smuggled frozen meat, some of more than 40 years old. According to the state-run China Daily, customs officials have confiscated over 100,000 tonnes (110, 231 tons) of chicken wings, beef, and pork, and arrested gangs across 14 Chinese provinces attempting to sell the contraband.
It was smelly. There was a whole truck of it. I nearly threw up when I opened the door, Zhang Tao, an official that helped with the operation in Hunan province told the paper. Some of the meat had begun to thaw and rot, and some of it was stamped with packaging dates as far back as the 1970s, officials said.
Meat smuggled in from foreign countries via Hong Kong and Vietnam is increasingly making its way into Chinese grocery stores, where consumers cant tell the products age easily when it is frozen. The meat, transported in non-refrigerated trucks and cars, is often repeatedly thawed and refrozen. In Hong Kong, imported meat is subject to surveillance but not usually tested if it is for re-export, government officials said.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-arrests-smugglers-trying-to-sell-frozen-meat-from-the-1970s/ar-AAc1AhW?ocid=mailsignout
Human101948
(3,457 posts)and force us to eat it up.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)TPP has horrendous possibilities.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)for keeping workers from organizing.
They also have no reason to join a bloc that was expressly designed to limit their trading.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)According to leaked documents and previous agreements Monsanto, Wal-Mart, BP and Tyson all could file suit under the TPP. But labor is out in the cold. Only corpoations are people under the TPP.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I'm curious how much of the "leaks" you have actually read if you don't know that.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)In NAFTA there are invisible commissions that were suppose to be set up in each country to address labor, environment and consumer concerns. The commisions were added later (of course they can't be added in the TPP because fast track does NOT allow for amendments). They were never set up and corporations making money hand over fist from these ridiculous "free" trade give aways are purposely preventing them.
Labor, environment and consumers are the prey in these trade agreements and any nicey-nice language (usually added later) to make it look as if the rest of us are NOT screwed is just talk with NO enforcement provisions added.
PS here is a link. Read it from the horse's mouth so to speak. http://www.aflcio.org/Issues/Trade/Trans-Pacific-Partnership-Free-Trade-Agreement-TPP
http://www.inc.com/encyclopedia/north-american-free-trade-agreement-nafta.html This one is about the commissions added as amendments to appease labor, environmental and consumer groups.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)They usually win.
Did you honestly not know that?
fasttense
(17,301 posts)The AFLCIO has never, ever filed suit under any free trade corporate give away or agreement - They are NOT members of these agreements. ONLY Corporations and Nations may file suits under the tribunals. What you think is happening is NOT happening.
What has happened in the past is that the AFLCIO has asked, begged and pleaded for the United States as a Nation to file suit in the tribunal courts on their behalf against nations and corporations who are continually abusing labor. So NO, labor, environmental and consumer groups DO NOT have standing to file suits under any trade agreements. But they can provide briefs to the corporate lawyers sitting on the tribunals.
Did you honestly think otherwise?
Unlike corporations that can file suit directly to the tribunals, Labor, Environmental and Consumer groups must first convince their country's politicians. That's what I mean when I say they have No Standing. They can NOT directly file suit. They have to get Obama or the bushes or some other president to do it for them. AND unlike corporations, they have to go through the country they live in. While a corporation can file suit against anyone no matter where they have their headquarters.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)and that's because China is not full of stupid Americans.
djean111
(14,255 posts)the TPP will protect us from China bullshit. Which was always made-up bullshit. Just think, China could sell us all kinds of poisonous stuff - baby formula, toothpaste, pet food - and it would be none of our business where it came from. Oh, and don't they have PERMANENT Most Favored Nation trading status with us already?
Really, I cannot vote for anyone connected to the TPP again.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)If they did, US meat packers could sue them over stuff like this. It will never happen.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)A US-owned factory in Shanghai is at the center of Chinas latest food scandal: Chinese health authorities have suspended operations at Shanghai Husi Food, owned by the Illinois-based OSI Group, for reprocessing old and discarded meat to extend its use-by date. Husi was supplying meat to KFC, Pizza Hut and McDonalds restaurants in China. Staff were captured on camera reprocessing expired and discarded meatin one case picking up food off the floor and throwing it into processing machines.
http://qz.com/237708/the-us-meat-processing-company-at-the-rotten-center-of-chinas-latest-food-scandal/
According to the Seattle Times, domestically caught Pacific salmon and Dungeness crab are being processed in China and shipped back to the U.S. because of significant cost savings.
There are 36 pin bones in a salmon and the best way to remove them is by hand, said Charles Bundrant, founder of Trident, which ships about 30 million pounds of its 1.2 billion-pound annual harvest to China for processing. Something that would cost us $1 per pound labor here, they get it done for 20 cents in China.
(from the same article)
More than 300,000 Chinese children have suffered illness, and several have died, from melamine-tainted milk powder.
Dangerously high levels of mercury have been found in Chinese baby formula.
More than $1 million worth of rat and other small mammal meat has been sold to Chinese consumers as lamb.
http://www.nationofchange.org/usda-allow-chickens-us-be-shipped-china-processing-and-back-us-consumption-just-seafood-1394374208
Recursion
(56,582 posts)As would the meat packers union and consumer groups. If China joined the TPP, they could all do that, which is why China will never join.
Trading without free trade agreements means making everywhere like trade with China. I'm against that.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Cosumer and labor groups have absolutely NO standing under any leaked portions of the TPP or under any trade agreements. The only entities that have standing are governments and corporations.
Maybe they could sue under US law but since US law does NOT apply to foreign corporations.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)The way basic facts like that are blithely ignored here is annoying.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Even under NAFTA they can't sue. Only countries and corporations are allowed to sue in the tribunals.
Free trade is a scam, especially with these give aways called "free" trade agreements. It's merely a way to push facism and corporate rule of nations.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)China will most likely be the source of dead human beings made into pet food or sausage or whatever.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)LOL indeed.
RandiFan1290
(6,237 posts)Leave them alone!!!!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)dembotoz
(16,808 posts)malthaussen
(17,204 posts)... but forty years is pushing it. Although I did read an article by a guy who opened a 40 yr old C-Rat fruitcake and said it still seemed edible. Of course, he didn't eat it. Who eats fruitcake?
-- Mal
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)it's not opened and stored at reasonable temperatures. Part of an article on foods that are usually good way past any dates stamped on packaging.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Thanks Obama!
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)I never thought about being a vegetarian...I just might now.