The Confederate flag is one thing, but if they really mean it,

[skip fox]

they'd reconsider voter id laws.

This is just not the South, of course, but if the mass of jokers who say there's no such thing as racism or white privilege, or who say that the white supremacists are a fringe minority, want to be seen as serious, they'd immediately and publically rethink their voter id laws!

Let's not let them get away with simply removing the flag. Let's challenge them on this.

(It's not that removing the flag is simply cosmetic, but changing voter-id laws is clearly substantive.)

[Kalidurga]

1. and they would quit stop and frisk

-consider shifting giving money to private prisons to spending on education
-rename military bases that are named after Confederate Generals
-consider not putting people in jail for non-violent crimes like drug possession
-spend more on at risk youth than on institutionalizing at risk youth

there are probably a hundred things that could be done differently. But, it's easier to hate people and create conditions where they will lash out or do other things that might not be socially acceptable that will land them in jail.

[rock]

2. Removing the flag is symbolic and certainly helpful

But dropping the voter-id laws is urgent. These have real-world consequences.

[dembotoz]

3. All show and no go

[corkhead]

4. The PTB is throwing us a bone while they fuck us with the TPP

[freshwest]

5. Yes, the flag being removed alone, won't cure the gangrene. It's just the start. n/t

[skip fox]

6. Yes, why doesn't someone point this out? "If you're serious,

why not stop impeding the black vote?"

[freshwest]

7. Democrats already know Republicans know won't do a thing about it! Who is there to point it out to?

[skip fox]

8. I know, but it's the thing to do. Maybe some independents who think the Republicans

had a change of heart will pay attention.

[freshwest]

9. I'm of the opinion that 'Independents' are just GOP too ashamed to admit it. I don't believe 'em.

[KamaAina]

10. Actually, one independent I know is a recovering repuke.

He's gay, you see, and finally got tired of being treated like a second-class citizen, if that.

edit: And yes, he's ready for Hillary.

[lame54]

11. Rand Paul is for removing the flag...

which is the perfect opportunity to call him on his bullshit about the 16th amendment

this conversation does not have to stop with the flag

[freshwest]

12. You got that right!