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HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:17 AM Jun 2015

The advice the other day from Lanny Davis was read Clinton's speeches

to know her positions. Sounds like a reasonable thing to do and probably is.

Yet, when I get reasonable sounding advice from a guy whose political history includes special efforts in spin and crisis management, I stop to wonder, what is really being advised?

And so this question...is assuming HRC uses speech writers correct? If so, who?

I've come to expect when politicians give major and/or policy addresses that there is a speech writing team involved, not only a lead author, but likely one or more researchers/ staffers and political 'weathermen' who suggest tacks to take in sailing the political winds in which the speech is delivered.

So I'm not suggesting anything really outside politics as usual. Not implying there is anything wrong. It's just that I have an expectation that HRC's speeches aren't written entirely by her.

There's all the talk about dominance. Dominance in money raising, which can be assumed to lead to dominant money spending and dominant staffing... which would likely include a dominant speech writing team and a communications and meteorological team that includes, at least, Lanny Davis.

So what does HRC's speech writing team look like? Who are we reading and from what backgrounds are those speeches generated?

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The advice the other day from Lanny Davis was read Clinton's speeches (Original Post) HereSince1628 Jun 2015 OP
We know her Actual positions from her history. 99Forever Jun 2015 #1
Talk may be cheap, but it's also communication, and so are the speeches. HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #4
I remember someone talking about comfortable shoes. 99Forever Jun 2015 #8
Davis was on the Ed Show the other day, being quite defensive and whathehell Jun 2015 #2
Yes, I saw that. And common knowledge is if you are reacting/defending HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #6
Precisely. whathehell Jun 2015 #7
I need no advice from the likes of Lanny Davis, the fucking swine. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #3
Well, sans the name calling, Lanny Davis' history makes me suspicious HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #5
Name calling is too good for him. Fuck Lanny Davis with a rusty dumpster on fire. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #10
or nah.. frylock Jun 2015 #9

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
4. Talk may be cheap, but it's also communication, and so are the speeches.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:43 AM
Jun 2015

No doubt candidates give speeches that accentuate the positive and try to avoid/eliminate the negative.

Without implying any presumptions about any candidate...Written work can have major communication advantages over 'cheap' talk. Written work can be carefully constructed over a long period of time. A pronoun or an adjective in a speech may go mostly unnoticed by the public, but may be carefully chosen to represent a much more expansive underlying understanding or belief. Or, such words may also frame a narrative in a way that accentuates the positive and distracts from the negative. All that contributes to insight in understanding the message. Written work can also be reread, analyzed and reanalyzed carefully and repeatedly.

Comparisons of the text of what's written to what's delivered often show discrepancies. Understanding the discrepancies also contributes to understanding. Expert knowledge and or plagiarism software can flag statements that aren't especially original in speeches or which statements are repeated in a carefully precise way or which over multiple uses have drifted.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
8. I remember someone talking about comfortable shoes.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:12 AM
Jun 2015

That person seems to have trashed those shoes and forgot who put him in office.

Won't make THAT fucking mistake again.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
2. Davis was on the Ed Show the other day, being quite defensive and
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:40 AM
Jun 2015

argumentative.

He repeatedly claimed Hillary to be a true, life long progressive, and denied

claims made by Ed -- and every other commentator I've heard -- that Bernie's

presence in the race has had an influence on her recent populist rhetoric.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
6. Yes, I saw that. And common knowledge is if you are reacting/defending
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:46 AM
Jun 2015

you are losing... unless you happen to pierce an opponent's vital part in that process.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
5. Well, sans the name calling, Lanny Davis' history makes me suspicious
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:45 AM
Jun 2015

of what he says and precisely how he says it.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
10. Name calling is too good for him. Fuck Lanny Davis with a rusty dumpster on fire.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:32 PM
Jun 2015

Lying, conniving piece of Turd Way shit.

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