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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDemocrats! Pull yourselves together! Adopt the New Paradigm as your own!
Trust secret government and unknown corporate lawyers to do the right thing in private.
Take their word on it: They always do. From 1907**:
Meanwhile, do your best to see your sons and daughters marry well*. And if you don't have any kids, keep fit and start saving up for Botox and a facelift. You're going to have a lot of competition from the young people for whatever jobs are left, once all the stuff we still don't know about TPP kicks in.
* euphemism for "a wealthy wealthy rich person."
** SOURCE: http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~histecon/crisis-next/1907/images.html
PS: Note in the cartoon dialogue, Big Banker says: "Corporations can not legally pay money for 'political' purposes." Ha ha ha ha ha.
Rex
(65,616 posts)They've made it obvious over the decades.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)by David Dayen
New Republic, Feb. 4, 2015
Citigroup is one of three Wall Street banks attempting to keep hidden their practice of paying executives multimillion-dollar awards for entering government service. In letters delivered to the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) over the last month, Citi, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley seek exemption from a shareholder proposal, filed by the AFL-CIO labor coalition, which would force them to identify all executives eligible for these financial rewards, and the specific dollar amounts at stake. Critics argue these golden parachutes ensure more financial insiders in policy positions and favorable treatment toward Wall Street.
As shareholders of these banks, we want to know how much money we have promised to give away to senior executives if they take government jobs, said AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka in a statement. Its a simple question, but the banks dont want to answer it. What are they trying to hide?
The handouts recently received attention when Antonio Weiss, the former investment banker at Lazard now serving as counselor to Treasury Secretary Jack Lew, acknowledged in financial disclosures that he would be paid $21 million in unvested income and deferred compensation upon exiting the company for a job in government. Weiss withdrew from consideration to become the undersecretary for domestic finance under pressure from financial reformers, but the counselor positionwhich does not require congressional confirmationprobably still entitles him to the $21 million. The terms of the award are part of a Lazard employee agreement that nobody has seen.
These payments are routine at major banks, several of which have explicit policies, found in filings with the SEC, outlining automatic awards for executives who rotate into government. Goldman Sachs offers a lump sum cash payment for government service, for example.
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http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120967/wall-street-pays-bankers-work-government-and-wants-it-secret
Peons Get Lumps.
Coal.
Lumps.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)That is to say, an "understanding" that certain activities while in office will guarantee you a nice corner office with your own private gold flusher executive toilet.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Since the repeal of Glass-Steagal, they've continued developing new, eh, vehicles for Wealth Management:
http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/revitalizingamerica/SenatorPhilGramm.html
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Little investment in Walmart there, little lobbying in your name there, little donation to the Republicans here, little money to get Huckabee elected there, little help from him and the Council of Conservative Citizens to radicalize a loner.
Like a butterfly wing, small drops in corporate ponds can create large ripples.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)is a few more zeros on the loot bag.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Amazing miracles of accounting and control fraud these days.
The Size of the Bank Bailout: $29 Trillion
by John Carney
msnbc, 14 Dec. 2011
EXCERPT...
But something like this position was on display last week when the Federal Reserve criticized reports claiming that the total size of its emergency facilities was $7.77 trillion. The Fed argued that these reports overstated the size of the facilities because they added up all the loans extended despite the fact that many were short term loans that we simply rolled over. According to the Fed, the best thing to do is look at the total amount outstanding at one one time, which was just $1.7 trillion.
Just like the guy who only had one drink at a time.
The counter to this is that the need to keep borrowing under what are supposed to be short term facilities shows just how badly financial institutions were faring during the financial crisis.
The amount of overnight lending reflects how broken our financial system really is. A well capitalized, moderately leveraged system does not require this massive liquidity from a central bank interbank lending should be sufficient. What the data reveals is that the financial sector remains dangerously under-capitalized and overleveraged, Barry Ritholz writes at the Big Picture.
Recently, a pair of PhD students at the University of Missouri-Kansas City tried to assess the total size of the Feds commitmentsnot just loans made, but asset purchases as well. The bottom line: a Federal Reserve bailout commitment in excess of $29 trillion.
That figure has, in turn, been criticized by economist James Hamilton who argued, incredibly, that the Feds bailout commitment under one facility was zero because all the money was paid back.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/45674390
Like Dr. Evil coming out of the cryogenic capsule...
merrily
(45,251 posts)aka big business. Corporations are people, only with benefits people don't have, like limited liability and huge incentives to "create jobs."
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Kermitt Gribble
(1,855 posts)Sounds just like the "New Democrats", no?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Joining forces with the GOP.
Makes me want to varmint. I mean vomit. On the varmints.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)LOL so much it hurts.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)erronis
(15,303 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Titanic sank. The year of the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire.
Google images of that year and the above cartoon makes even more sense. Or google poverty 1911. You'll experience instant Thanksgving in June.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Reminds one of Tiny Tim before Ol' Scrooge saw the Light.
THE INDUSTRIAL Workers of the World (IWW) was one of the first labor organizations in the U.S. to fight for industrial unionism. While never embracing more than a small minority of workers, the IWW left a legacy of militancy, innovative tactics and a principled commitment to workers' solidarity that ensured an influence bar beyond its numbers. PAUL D'AMATO recounts the lessons--both positive and negative--of the struggles of the IWW.
SOURCE: http://socialistworker.org/2004-2/500Supp/500S_198909_IWW.shtml
I'm so Old School Democrat, I'm siding with Labor on this one.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)He wasn't a man it was easy to get close to, especially a nerdy, bookish kid like me, but he gave me two pieces of advice that shaped my life:
"Son, work with your head, not with your hands."
and, when 8-year-old me asked him who he was voting for in the election of 1964, "Lyndon Johnson. If you get your paycheck from another man you'd better vote for Democrats. The rich can take care of themselves without our help."
The only republican he ever said a good word about that I ever heard was Eisenhower, and he HATED Nixon. Something about being so crooked he needed help to screw his pants on every morning.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Nominate the most progressive candidate who will secretly bargain with us.
I see part of our problem. They're willing to compromise their politics in order to elect someone who won't bother progressives. But we aren't willing to do that, which is what the DLC and others would try to get us to do. So we have had a hard job of getting our politics. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how progressives have managed to not get elected. I guess there's a bit more to it than just what the banks want, but they seem to be at the head of the line. I don't know.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)I am furious with the Democrats for capitulating to Republicans for the last 30 years.
Capitulation is where OUR side get nothing but token gestures.
Then they get to stand in front of the TV cameras and congratulate each other for their "bravery & courage".
[font size=3]Paulson with Co-Conspirators
Now THIS is Bi-Partisanship.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)In the words of George Carlin, "more for themselves and less for everybody else."
arcane1
(38,613 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)had to do it. Luckily, the people who are supposed to represent the 99% stepped up and fast.
And the Fed has been stepping up ever since.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)....and someone gave me a little orange pill to eat.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Same old pile.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Which is NOT how it's supposed to be.
For those interested in where all this Buy Partisanship originates:
A big shot in Poppy's crew, Fitts got fed up with the corruption at the highest levels of government, business and finance. She's doing all she can to document corruption on Wall Street and Washington and helping those who give a damn do something about it. Her Narcodollars for Beginners deserves a Pulitzer.
Ah...Integrity. Such an alien concept to the plutocrats and their satraps.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)leftstreet
(36,109 posts)questionseverything
(9,656 posts)that was really how corporate rule was established
erronis
(15,303 posts)That are taking payments directly. Mainly our "representatives." We don't believe that all that graft goes via their paychecks, do we? After all, lobbyists wouldn't get an audience without a nice handshake.
merrily
(45,251 posts)taking a cash bribe and stuffing it into her bra. At a restaurant, IIRC.
Most of them are a bit slicker than that.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Count your blessings you lucky ones that born during the times of greater economic equality and when the rich were suppressed...
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)They work to get the smartest people on their side, knowing that they would be toast if the best and brightest joined the revolt.
Without the best and brightest, the people can't hope to fight off the super machiavellian schemes that the rich use to attempt to retain their power. The people will be continually outsmarted by the rich.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Gotta admit that...
For Freddie
(79 posts)That illustration is fantastic. I love it!
I am in Tucson.
How do I get an invite for my ex-homeless New York VERY Progressive brother to the Tucson Bernie Group?
He just went through the Salvation Army dorm and to work program.
He got his own apt. and maybe a job.
He is very dedicated to Bernie.
He needs others for Bernie to talk to.
Our country was founded on this "capital" idea.
Watch John Adams and how the arguing went
to create the country at all. The series shows
how it all started. How slavery and the South
prevailed. Business and money first.
It has always been this way.
We are in an age where the thought form that unfettered capitalism maybe more destructive than any other system.
We have been here before. But now we have computers.
Why so many white males have held the Constitution as infallible is beyond me when it excluded everyone but them. Duh
Stating this prefaced by , "I don't give a rat's ass about the Constitution" almost started a riot at ISU, Pocatello in the summer
of 1977 when I tried grad school there. I DID NOT know how naive
white boys were from the West. I did not know Constitutional White Boy Fundamentalism ruled. After that Merle's Oakie From Muskogee made a lot more sense.
Enthusiast
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Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)All of our speech is just as free, why is it not just as listened to by the media?
Never mind..just remembered where all that cash is going to go home to.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Which is why it's so infuriating that it's happening again.
robertpaulsen
(8,632 posts)turbinetree
(24,703 posts)I thought of the magazines and the late S.S McClure and the investigative journalist he had on his team----------I hope that many on this thread look into what his team did---------it was amazing and it changed the country for the better---------------now there are only a very few The Nation, Mother Jones, Harpers, American Prospect come to mind---------the rest are sellouts:
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/the-tradition-of-mcclure/
http://wheneditorsweregods.typepad.com/when_editors_were_gods/2008/09/s-s-mcclure.html
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)and they have been aided and abetted by Democrats in whom we placed our trust. Shameful, despicable and many are wondering now if what they just did was even legal.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)What this Democracy needs are six like him.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)he really wanted his investigative team to find the answers and then Teddy Roosevelt coupled what his team found and he changed, and the country changed-----------it was truly remarkable----------what this county now has is really lacking, look up
Ida Tarbell, Lincoln Steffens , Ray Standard Baker, Upton Sinclair
"Samuel Sidney McClure was an American publisher who became known as a key figure in investigative, or muckraking, journalism. He co-founded and ran McClure's Magazine from 1893 to 1911. He was born in County Antrim, Ireland, and emigrated with his widowed mother to Indiana when he was nine years old. He grew up nearly impoverished on a farm and graduated from Valparaiso High School in 1875. He worked his way through Knox College, where he co-founded its student newspaper, and later moved to New York City. In 1884, he established the McClure Syndicate, the first U.S. newspaper syndicate, which serialized books."
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)mathematic
(1,439 posts)Boy, those political cartoonists really nailed that one!
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Who has been necromancing?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)since 1980. It is a sad testament to the inane gullibility of the American people and the power of mass media to manipulate us to act against our own self interest.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)is my favorite: "Who Stole The Peoples Money? 'Twas Him"
http://www.losal.org/cms/lib7/CA01000497/Centricity/Domain/340/Politcal_cartoon_analysis.pdf
Was "it" ever about political affiliation?
midnight
(26,624 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)"If you're not OUTRAGED, you're not paying attention"
...and I see continuous evidence that the sheeple are definitely not paying attention.
As long as the TV machine works, as long as a certain percentage of the populace is comfortable, nothing will change. Or so it seems to me.
Brother Octafish, keep that light shining.
Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)Thanks for thread, Octafish.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)exposing the machinations of the power brokers again.
Preparing for the inevitable cries of "conspiracy theory".
Please, please keep on keeping on.