If Hillary wins the primary, will Sander's supporters vote for her?

[Sean23]

I'm not hating on anyone, I am just wondering. I know Sanders is gaining support so I know it is premature to say Hillary is going to win but its just a hypothetical question.

[randys1]

1. This one will

[SteveG]

67. as will I.

[Snotcicles]

73. Me too at this point, just don't hold me to it. Subject to change. nt

[TexasBushwhacker]

91. +1

[peacebird]

2. Why do we get this exact same post daily?

Seriously, this has been asked at least a dozen times in the last two weeks. You get zero points for originality.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. I will, if that happens.

I'll happily vote for any Democratic nominee over any of the current passengers in the GOP clown car.

[Autumn]

4. Bless your heart and welcome to DU n/t

[QC]

5. Suddenly I have a craving for Nilla Wafers!

Would you care to join me?

[Autumn]

11. Oh yes do we have any Vanilla...

puddin?

[Fumesucker]

46. I'm practically rhapsodic over Vanilla pudding

[HappyMe]

50. No!

Really?

Eesh!

[closeupready]

70. lol

[TBF]

71. ...

[Polly Hennessey]

6. Bernie

Yes, yes, and yes.

[JI7]

7. i will

And that goes for whoever ends up winning the nomination.

[LWolf]

8. Hypothetically,

ask me when it happens.

Until then, my focus is on nominating Sanders.

[octoberlib]

9. How many times is this question going to be asked before the election?

I'll vote for the Democrat.

[Sheepshank]

19. as it turns out...each time this question is asked, an increasing number are emboldened to say "No"

...... and an even bigger crowd, is solidly behind the "No" voters with responses like +100, +100000 etc.

I'm a tad disappointed, but it's sort of the reality going on here at DU.

[Bernie 2016]

45. Because we consider loyalty oaths completely unnecessary

and insulting.

[Sheepshank]

62. insulting is in the eye of the beholder

given the Republican Borg Conciousness and voting block, I find it insulting that there are those that would give Republicans the upper hand by NOT voting for whomever in the Dem Nominee.

Oh and BTW..."we"? who is this "we" you are speaking on behalf of?

[octoberlib]

90. Well, I live in a purple state and can't afford to throw away my vote.

As a resident of North Carolina , I know the damage Republicans can do.

[Sheepshank]

93. So perhaps they are so emboldened because of living in a solidly red or blue state?

And therefore the statement that they won't vote isn't quite as spectacular as someone in your situation where there could be a disasterous fallout if the Rep wins?

[octoberlib]

99. This is what I believe . In fact, I've seen

some of them post that exact thing.

[Avalux]

10. I'll vote for her but I won't do it with a good feeling.

A Clinton/Bush presidential election, in and of itself, makes me want to vomit. The idea of another Bush in charge makes me want to blow my brains out. No good feelings there any way you slice it.

[Le Taz Hot]

12. Oooh! Loyalty oaths

16 months out. Starting early this time around, no?

One of the things I love about this country is the ballot box is secret and it's secret for a reason.

[Maedhros]

13. No. I don't want Hillary anywhere near the White House.

I will vote for the candidate that most closely represents my views. If it's a Democrat, then great. If not, no problem.

[SamKnause]

14. Agree.

[BainsBane]

17. Have Democrats been the candidates that most closely represented your views in the past?

If that were my criteria, I would never have voted Democrat. I would have been voting for the Communist Party or the Greens for decades. However, I don't see the ballot as a place to reflect myself. I vote for who will make the best president of the two parities who actually have a shot in hell. That at least has been my criteria since becoming a Democrat in 2001, as opposed to a leftist swing voter before then, when I did vote for third parties.

[cherokeeprogressive]

38. I'm in California... I probably don't HAVE to vote for her.

Not casting a vote for her knowing she will win my state just might be the best outcome for me.

[PeaceNikki]

15. Proud Yellow Dog Democrat here.

[MiniMe]

16. I will vote for the democratic nominee

Whoever he or she may be.

[MohRokTah]

18. You signed up yesterday to ask that?

[restorefreedom]

86. i would like to ask the hrc supporters

if bernie is nominated, will you vote for him?

[MohRokTah]

87. I am a loyal Democrat.

I am insulted that ANYBODY would feel a need to ask me if I would vote for the Democratic nominee regardless of whom that may be.

[restorefreedom]

92. no one is insulting you or your loyalty

i was just asking the hrc supporters the same question that was asked of bs supporters in the main thread. apparently it seems to be of interest to some people.

[hrmjustin]

20. Results.

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If Hillary wins the primary, will Sander's supporters vote for her?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026896664

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[avebury]

31. I cannot believe that someone alerted on this OP.

It is a valid question and you need to realize that a lot of people are fed up with the status quo and want someone who will fight for the masses and that is Bernie Sanders. He is a pretty straight shooter and stayed that way for years. You know what you will get with Sanders.

[Bernie 2016]

47. And there will be another thread about this tomorrow..

and the next day..

and the next day...

Loyalty oaths is for Republicans. Leave it with them.

[HereSince1628]

21. The anxiety about this is an interesting wedge between

progressives others, who I suspect are to the right of the progressives.

Progressives seem rather more open to risk than others.

I don't find that surprising having read and understood the importance of fear a motivator of political behavior

[jwirr]

22. Damned right we will. We care about our country. I will admit that the passage of TPP may make

a difference because what difference does it make if we vote for any individual to represent the oligarchy that we now are going to live in. There may be so much frustration people who would vote may actually stay home.

I will vote out of habit.

[madokie]

23. The question would be better asked of Hillary

I'm not hearing any Bernie supporters saying they won't vote for Hillary. I've read several Hillary supporters infer they won't

[hrmjustin]

33. Here is a link from March. Plenty of Sanders supporters said no.

http://election.democraticunderground.com/10025809751


And not one pro-Hillary poster on this board said we would not support the nominee.

[Starry Messenger]

95. I doubt that, highly.

[frylock]

25. Clinton's internal polling has got to be in the shitter..

it's the only explanation for these daily threads.

[whathehell]

27. I certainly will. n/t

[ladjf]

28. I have very little confidence in Clinton. But, they way more confidence than for ANY

damn Republican. nt

[avebury]

29. This voter won't be it is an easy decision.

Living in Oklahoma, it does not matter who the Democrats run (or Republicans either), the Republican candidate will win.

I will go vote, I just don't know if I will select a Presidential candidate. It will depend upon who ends up on the ballot when the time comes. I am tired of voting for the lesser of the evils. When I voted for Obama, I believed in him. Voted for him the second time but was not as excited. Now I am very cynical about the whole process. Bernie Sanders has always been a straight shooter, consistently. Right now, he is the kind of candidate I want. I don't want anybody beholden to Corporate interests.
.

[KamaAina]

30. This one will.

[randome]

32. The vast majority will. A handful of DUers won't.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

[0rganism]

34. shit, i will happily vote for her

thanks to the incredible assholes the GOP is fronting for the job, when the time comes, i can vote for HRC with my pencil held high.

[eridani]

35. Those who are active Democrats will

Disaffected voters inspired by Sanders to get involved in politics again probably will not.

[Omaha Steve]

36. Welcome to the DU

I'm in vs the clown car mob any day.

[cyberswede]

37. Oh FFS

Asked and answered.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026848292
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026619124
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6719787

etc...

[Trajan]

39. Sure

I've been holding my nose in the voting booth for years ...

[mike_c]

40. no

This next part is important: my refusal to vote for Clinton has absolutely nothing to do with my support for Senator Sanders. I consider Clinton unfit for office based upon her own history (support for invading Iraq, the Patriot Act, clubbiness with Wall Street, etc). I don't vote for parties. I vote for candidates who represent my best interests. I will never vote for Hillary Clinton.

[uppityperson]

43. If Clinton is the Dem candidate, you will not vote for her? Not even to save SCOTUS from going

rabidly right?

[mike_c]

58. you know, I'm 60 years old and I've voted in every national election since I was eligible....

One thing they all had in common was democrats using some form of the guilt inducing paradigm that "this election is too important to vote your conscience." Maybe next time, but never this time. I learned a long time ago that folks like you will ALWAYS have some reason to disrespect others' right to choose candidates that best represent their political interests.

I hope like hell that the Democratic Party nominates someone I can support. Clinton is unfit for office, so it won't be her.

[uppityperson]

63. You assume too much about me based on my question. "folks like you will ALWAYS..."

Rather than answering my question, you make unbased accusations which is too bad. Rather than asking me something back to clarify, you accuse me of things for which you have no basis in reality, which is too bad.

[mike_c]

65. forgive me if I misjudged you....

The question you asked is exactly the sort of thing that the folks I described generally ask, so with nothing more to go on, perhaps I jumped to conclusions. Did you instead intend to support my sentiments? If so, I'm sorry for misconstruing your remarks.

[uppityperson]

68. It is difficult, I have voted my conscience and by party, it depends

It depends on where you are, how the overall vote will go. Always vote, even if for a local issue, and remember you don't have to vote in every race (recommendation I've given people who say if they won't vote for pres, they won't go vote at all).

I agree, wish we could get a candidate that would represent us better. My mother used to tell me she could not juggle all the issues so chose 1 for the deciding vote, women's issues, and voted who would best represent her on that.

It is discouraging that too often it comes down to vote for who will hurt you less. I'm a bit older than you, have voted every election since I could except 1 off season (non-pres) one in which our school levy failed by 11 votes and teachers were laid off, classes combined, until the next vote 6 months later in which it passed readily. It showed me that my vote is important, if even for a local issue.

But I agree, it is very discouraging to have to chose someone who you feel does not represent you so that someone who represents you less and will cause more troubles that will hurt so many.

I have been able to vote FOR someone a couple times in my life, wish it was more often. People are not as evolved socially as they are technologically and I fear how long we will last and what damage the earth will end up with.

[Cleita]

41. Most will.

I can't but my vote won't matter after the primary anyway because California electoral votes will go to the Democratic candidate regardless now that we ended gerrymandering.

[sabrina 1]

42. No, not if you mean the Independents currently signing up as Dems in order to vote for Bernie.

No again if you are talking about the non-voters we are signing up to register as Dems so they can vote for Bernie.

Who exactly were asking? DUers? All Bernie Supporters? Democrats? Independents? Non Voters now willing to vote for Bernie?

I hope that answers your question anyhow.

[Bernie 2016]

44. I swear, under the penalty of insanity and death, do swear my allegiance

to whoever the Democratic nominee is at the end of this......

I hate loyalty pledges. It's stupid and so Republican-like.

[NobodyHere]

48. This one won't

[ChiciB1]

49. I'm A HUGE Bernie Supporter, BUT Like It Or NOT...

the alternative is too scary! Most of us will vote for her, we have NO other choice really. What's being presented on the other side is insanity!

[mmonk]

51. Well I've never voted for a Republican.

The concern some of us have goes deeper than that question.

[bigwillq]

52. I will not.

I live in CT. I am confident that the DEM nominee will win my state, with or without my vote.
If Hillary wins the nomination, I wish her the best, but I will not be voting for her. For those that want to vote for her, fine. I have no issue with that; folks are free to vote for the candidate of their choice. I just can't vote for her.

[Orsino]

53. Would Clinton be willing to accept the VP spot?

See, that's a silly question, too.

[hack89]

54. Of course they will - they are still Democrats. nt

[ruffburr]

55. grudgingly-

I definitely will not waste my vote , I'm to worried that R's would win, so I'll vote whoever gets the nomination in the primary, hopefully Bernie!

[99Forever]

56. Nunya.

[Rex]

57. They dam well better! We will need every single vote to fight against voter and election fraud.

The GOP will try, just like they do every election.

[Prism]

59. I'm going to fill a jar with M&Ms

And every time this question gets posted (The Loyalty Post), I eat an M&M.

If that jar is empty on election day, I write in Courtney Love on my ballot.

[TBF]

74. I hope you like M&M's

it seems to be a very popular first OP with many new members of DU.

[Prism]

81. People always complain about paid posters

Silly rabbits. Interns don't get paid!

[RichVRichV]

60. The last time I saw this asked

I saw a post hidden by someone answering truthfully. I refuse to take loyalty oaths. Which is exactly what this is.

Loyalty is a two way street. A party has to give it to expect it.

[Jamastiene]

61. I will.

I prefer Sanders, but I especially prefer NOT to have Republicans anywhere near the White House again.

[DemocraticWing]

64. Yes.

And so will almost all Democrats who vote for Sanders in the primary. The few here who say they refuse to vote for Hillary will either re-consider or don't see the two-party system the way I do.

Will Hillary voters support Sanders? Will New Democrats find themselves closer in view to Republicans than the dirty hippie socialist they're so scared of?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

66. *Yawn* Loyalty Oath season again.

[HereSince1628]

69. This question gets asked near 3 times a day.

I wish people would quit asking it until one or another nominee clinches the primary, it's untimely.

If we have to worry about PUMAs lets do it when it needs to be done.

[Motown_Johnny]

72. yes

[Vinca]

75. I vote with my heart in the NH primary and my head in the general.

And I always vote. It's highly unlikely I would cast a vote for a Republican if Hillary is the candidate.

[lamp_shade]

76. Don't be silly. Of course.

[Agnosticsherbet]

77. I am tired of various iterations of this question.

Let's finish the primary and then GOTV for whoever wins.

[Robbins]

78. This one won't

That's a promise after tpp.

[DinahMoeHum]

79. I will.

[tularetom]

80. I won't vote against her

It's June. The first primaries are more than 6 months off.

A whole lot of things could happen that might affect what I will do as far as the general election is concerned.

[Iggo]

82. What an interesting and original question!

[tymorial]

83. Of course.

I'm sure some will refrain from voting entirely or voting third party but given a Bush nomination... I just don't see the gross majority of Sanders supporters ignoring the blight that this country will face with a republican administration

[LompocDem]

96. I'm there also

Even if I have to pinch my nose voting for the Dem that is on the ballot, I'll be there to do my part to help defeat the opposition. Voting against my best interests, for me, won't happen once in the booth, no matter who our party chooses as their candidate!

[closeupready]

84. She'll have to earn my vote. If she doesn't, she doesn't

get my vote. End of story.

[JHB]

85. At 8 months before the first primaries I don't count myself in either "camp"...

...though at this point I'm inclined to vote in the primaries for Bernie and vote for the Democratic candidate in the general election, which will be Hillary if she wins, which at this point I think is likely. As I noted, though, we're still months away from the actual primary voting.

However, since this question repeatedly comes up and smacks of loyalty oaths, I think it's relevant to bring up this point:
In 2008 a portion of Hillary's supporters reacted poorly to her primary loss, and the term "PUMA (Party Unity My Ass)" entered our political lexicon. Thus I think it's fair to ask the countering question:

If Sanders wins the nomination, will Hillary supporters vote for him?

[AngryOldDem]

88. I honestly don't know yet. n/t

[PATRICK]

89. If Hillary

wins the primaries then she is the best the system will let us have and the most the current American majority of voters has earned. My personal teeth grinding views on the present and ultimate cost of our democratic state of affairs can chew on the half a life preserver we will be tossed.

She needs every vote since there is fraud deficit to overcome right off the bat.

[akbacchus_BC]

94. I would never vote for her, but that is just my opinion!

And I cannot vote for her as I am Canadian. She was horrible to Senator Obama during the primaries and I cannot excuse her for the way she wanted to be President of the US and she was racist too! If she is the Democratic nominee, good for her, but she voted to invade Iraq and she lies too much! That is not presidential material unless you all once again, voting for the lesser of two evils.

[davidpdx]

97. I've never used the trash thread function before, but there's always a first.....

getting sick of this shit.

[Elwood P Dowd]

98. I will support the Democratic nominee in November 2016.

Even a Wall Street Dem is light years better than any of the trash in the repuke clown car.