Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

lame54

(35,294 posts)
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 06:15 PM Jun 2015

Give It Up - I'm For Bernie

If Hillary is a lock?

Why all the effort to douse our enthusiasm

Bernie is not trashing Hillary - and if he loses the primary most of us will support Hillary

Spend your efforts supporting your candidate and we'll do the same

That's what the primaries are for

59 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Give It Up - I'm For Bernie (Original Post) lame54 Jun 2015 OP
+1 deutsey Jun 2015 #1
Okay. leftofcool Jun 2015 #2
Snark to the end ... Trajan Jun 2015 #3
+1. nt Snotcicles Jun 2015 #29
Like Cheer-leaders ? Or reasoning people who have been Lied to ? orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #5
Our only shot at undoing what Now 2 presidents have done to us, No third Way, the Democratic way . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #4
I mostly reply to the crap posted about Hillary upaloopa Jun 2015 #6
that's not what's happening... lame54 Jun 2015 #8
Nobody can stop you from supporting him upaloopa Jun 2015 #10
Who would you say Republicans are more likely to vote for ? Citizens United invented for who? orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #12
I try to deal with things as they are not as I would upaloopa Jun 2015 #14
If we had people who would rather Bernie but will vote for Hillary in every subsequent election, we Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #31
I think we have to have campaign finance reform upaloopa Jun 2015 #33
We had Obama and where was our campaign finance reform? Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #34
Our only shot at undoing what Now 2 presidents have done to us, No third Way, the Democratic way . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #41
+ 1000 Well Put !!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #42
i support bernie because of his ideas questionseverything Jun 2015 #15
Well let's hope we still have democracy upaloopa Jun 2015 #16
+ 1000 !!! orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #53
To Me madokie Jun 2015 #17
Fine no problem with me upaloopa Jun 2015 #19
Cool madokie Jun 2015 #21
What office was she running for in 1992. upaloopa Jun 2015 #22
You're shitting me madokie Jun 2015 #24
I think upaloopa took you literally. n/t Beartracks Jun 2015 #26
Well thanks for making up more shit about upaloopa Jun 2015 #30
I stated fact madokie Jun 2015 #32
and this race is so ridiculously long - time is on Bernie's side lame54 Jun 2015 #25
After the TPP he's our only hope . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #54
If this is true passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #23
Because only DU'ers have NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #45
I think a lot of the naysayers don't do social media frylock Jun 2015 #46
You are kidding yourself with HRC Joe Turner Jun 2015 #40
Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2015 #43
+ 1000 Well Put !!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #13
Hillary can't win is often repeated here. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #48
Very well said Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #7
Great point! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #9
Ain't going to happen though madokie Jun 2015 #11
Please list the tear downs upaloopa Jun 2015 #20
I won't support hillary though PatrynXX Jun 2015 #18
Not like this, I hope MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #27
Good luck with you candidate. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #28
Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #35
ok Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #36
????????? blackapron Jun 2015 #37
Beat it, n00b. frylock Jun 2015 #47
Not a good try. Super weak effort. Come back when you're up to the task. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #49
lol tazkcmo Jun 2015 #50
Lol, meet the new shill. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #51
Meet the new shill. Same as the old shill. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #56
Seriously, which long time poster are you!? Rex Jun 2015 #57
... BeanMusical Jun 2015 #58
K & R L0oniX Jun 2015 #38
I'm for Sanders, Clinton or O'Malley. JTFrog Jun 2015 #39
They are clearly nervous sellitman Jun 2015 #44
Bernie had me at "Enough!!!". DrBulldog Jun 2015 #52
He can DO IT ! V0ltairesGh0st Jun 2015 #55
Hubby & I are voting for Bernie Michigan-Arizona Jun 2015 #59

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
6. I mostly reply to the crap posted about Hillary
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 06:30 PM
Jun 2015

She is not the enemy nor is Bernie.
But if you want to make up shit about Hillary that isn't true expect it to be pointed out.
A couple of days ago Hillary was at 75% and Bernie was at 15%.
If pointing that out is dumping on your candidate that is your problem not mine.

lame54

(35,294 posts)
8. that's not what's happening...
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 06:36 PM
Jun 2015

there is a push to stop us from supporting him

"Bernie can't win" is often repeated here

your suggestion that they are simply being news carriers is disingenuous

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
10. Nobody can stop you from supporting him
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 06:46 PM
Jun 2015

I don't think DU can run our lives.
To me a Bernie nomination will give us a repub President. That is a small part of why I support Hillary. I think if you ask the majority of voters will agree with me. DU does not reflect the world out there. True Bernie is more popular than Hillary in DU but again that is opposite the country as a whole.
Please support Bernie because it is only good for all of us that his views are becoming main stream. I have been listening to Bernie on radio and TV for years and I agree with him. But I do not think he could win the general and I think Hillary can. She has broader support.
I just get as pissed when people make shit up about her as you do concerning what is said about Bernie.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
12. Who would you say Republicans are more likely to vote for ? Citizens United invented for who?
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 06:53 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Not Bernie, and the average working Republican has been taught to hate Hillary for 20 yrs now, and they are single celled aomebas .

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
14. I try to deal with things as they are not as I would
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 06:56 PM
Jun 2015

want them to be.
If we could elect a left progressive government in 2016 I would be over joyed.
I don't think it can be done.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
31. If we had people who would rather Bernie but will vote for Hillary in every subsequent election, we
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:12 PM
Jun 2015

will NEVER throw off the yoke of Wall Street! They will always control whoever is in the White House. At some point you have to take a chance. Sure Bernie will require supporters to work harder for him without the money behind him, but that will always be the case. You are, in effect, saying you are ok with corporate control.
With where things are now in our country and with Climate Change, we cannot afford to wait. Also, when is the next Bernie going to come along, one that has a proven track record of doing what he says and not being owned by corporate interests?
Bernie would have plenty of support if all of the Hillary supporters went with who they thought was best instead of who had the best chance.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
33. I think we have to have campaign finance reform
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:21 PM
Jun 2015

if someone like Bernie has a chance. To do that we have to win in 2016. We have to take back the Senate. We have to appoint 4 progressive judges to the SCOTUS.
It takes a bunch things to happen to get where you want to be. You can't jump from today's politics to progressive government overnight. The right thinks long term that is how they build on little successes like how they took over states in 2010.
We have to think long term.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
34. We had Obama and where was our campaign finance reform?
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:32 PM
Jun 2015

It will TAKE a Bernie before we can get CFR! It will also take the people, US, to fight for these things as well. Too many want to say their part is done by simply voting. If we have millions of people, directed by their President to apply the pressure needed, we can get what we want. We will, not in a long time, have the House, Senate, and the White House again. We have to make the change happen. Bernie has said that he will need millions of people to make it work, nothing's changed with that.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
15. i support bernie because of his ideas
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:08 PM
Jun 2015

i think if clinton gets the nomination the repubs will win

they hate her in an ungodly way,no one could energize the repub base like hc but even my repub friends want single payer healthcare especially those over 55 (we pay 3 times as much with the aca as a young person even tho our best earning years are behind us)

madokie

(51,076 posts)
21. Cool
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:40 PM
Jun 2015

at this point its pretty much just opinions anyway

Hillary has been running since 1992 Bernie only for 6 weeks now. I know there are many here who were wanting to see Bernie run for a lot longer but the fact is he's only been in this race for a short time

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
22. What office was she running for in 1992.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:47 PM
Jun 2015

I remember her running for the Senate and for President.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
24. You're shitting me
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:51 PM
Jun 2015

She's been running for the presidency since bill walked into the oval office
if you're not aware of that nothing I can do will change that.
Have a good evening

madokie

(51,076 posts)
32. I stated fact
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:13 PM
Jun 2015

If you aren't aware of that then I can't help you.

Hillary's been on the campaign trail since bill won.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
23. If this is true
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:47 PM
Jun 2015
True Bernie is more popular than Hillary in DU but again that is opposite the country as a whole.


Why is he so popular on facebook?
 

Joe Turner

(930 posts)
40. You are kidding yourself with HRC
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 09:05 PM
Jun 2015

Actually if you want a republican president Hillary will deliver it. Bernie gives us a fighting chance because of his populist message which sells readily to most Americans tired of status quo politicians like Hillary. Then we have all reasons why Hillary is a bad candidate i.e. HRC does not connect well with people, does not interview well, does not debate well, has a long history of questionable behavior that can be exploited and comes off as too bland. She is toast in the general election unless the repugs select someone like Cruz. Stop deluding yourself with this one.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
43. Like I have said before.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 09:16 PM
Jun 2015

It is time for a real progressive populist movement, but the message needs to be clear and not overly complex and it needs to be repeated over and over to drive it home into the minds of the people.

Then Bernie will win

madokie

(51,076 posts)
11. Ain't going to happen though
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 06:48 PM
Jun 2015

Hillary supporters really don't have much to support other than tearing down Bernie.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
20. Please list the tear downs
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:39 PM
Jun 2015

I think the problem is what we see as real you see as a tear down. Is saying Hillary has broader support among women and minorities a tear down? Is saying Hillary has 60 point lead on Bernie a tear down?

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
18. I won't support hillary though
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:36 PM
Jun 2015

unless she's vp and bernies president ... she's alot like Mitt Romney in a way. She keeps pretending. and so did he.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
28. Good luck with you candidate.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:01 PM
Jun 2015

He is a good man and if he wins the nomination I will vote for him.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
50. lol
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 03:46 PM
Jun 2015

Please! I can't believe you went to the trouble of creating a profile on this site only to post the most easily debunked reason not to support Sanders. Hilarious.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
39. I'm for Sanders, Clinton or O'Malley.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 09:00 PM
Jun 2015

I feel weird liking them all even though I don't agree completely with any of them.

 

V0ltairesGh0st

(306 posts)
55. He can DO IT !
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jun 2015

I'm voting Bernie for sure. I've not felt more sure before an election about a candidate than I am about Bernie. I ordered my yard signs and bumper stickers 2 weeks ago and i can't wait till they arrive I'm excited.




Michigan-Arizona

(762 posts)
59. Hubby & I are voting for Bernie
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 06:11 PM
Jun 2015

Everyone I've talked to here in AZ & MI are also voting for Bernie..... Some of them are even republicans!

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Give It Up - I'm For Bern...