The flag or guns: Which to give up?

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Marc Thompson visited Michaelangelo Senorelli today on Sirius radio and they discussed the unprecedented speed that repugs have gotten on board with dumping their "beloved" confederate battle flag.

It is quite surprising that they've yielded so quickly on this. There seems to be more behind it, noticeably there has been no talk AT ALL about gun control even after the horrible murder of the nine church goers last week.

The issue of gun control is not even being discussed. It's all about the "great victory" being won in getting rid of that flag.

Nikki Haley is being praised for her courageous stand in asking the state legislature to act on taking down the flag. Funny though, she only acted after the victims' relatives showed up at a bond hearing to forgive the killer less than 48 hours after the shooting, which is more than strange IMO.

Who does that so swiftly while still reeling from having loved ones snatched from you by hatred and violence. There is speculation that there was some manipulation, and then advantage quickly taken by Haley, with cover now from the killer being forgiven, to move on the removal of the flag and thus take gun control as an even more pressing issue due to the horrific shooting, off the table.

A week later there is no denying that. Absolutely no one is talking about the necessity of tightening
gun control.

Now all over the South that flag is coming down with startling alacrity. I want it gone as much as the next person but it's been TOO EASY. It's been a brilliant distraction.

They chose to ditch the flag instead of their precious guns.

[Turbineguy]

1. Who is less of a

delicate flower?

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2. Pls explain your post. The meaning is not clear. nt

[Turbineguy]

3. The flag people

are less strident than the gun nuts.

[Hoyt]

4. They are both a symbol of racism and intimidation. Ask NRA board member T Nugent

[PRB]

5. Ted Nugent

is a child molester and does canned hunts. The sickest of the sick.

[ileus]

6. I say flag, it doesn't protect/save lives.

[aikoaiko]

7. There was no quid pro quo. Gun control was never an option once facts came out.

The killer was just an angry racist who is not prohibited from owning guns. There is no way to legislate for a " heart filled with hate" as HRC said she desired when she brought up gun control.

The gun used was not a AR15 with a 30 round mag so it didn't fit the anti-gun narrative for an evil gun. He apparently used a .45 pistol. In fact there are no reports that he even used a magazine that protruded from the grip of the gun (aka an evil high capacity magazine); again not fitting the anti-gun narrative. Martin OMalley's call for an assault weapons ban were out of place.

He doesn't appear to be mentally ill in the delusional sense.

It appears that this man was simply a criminal who exploited a civil liberty to fulfill a hate filled fantasy of a race war. A fantasy that was completely denied to him by the people of South Carolina who responded peacefully and with complete condemnation of his actions and ideology.

[Hoyt]

8. Gunz played a part, as they enable these yahoos to kill a bunch of people.

What is ad one of the recent murderers said, "gunz make me feel powerful."

[aikoaiko]

9. Sounds like your best option is to try to ban teh gunz!!1!

If that's what you think of them.

[Hoyt]

10. I would prefer for those who live by the gunz to act responsibly. Wishful thinking I suppose.

[aikoaiko]

11. Most of us do, but it can be tragic when someone doesnt