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A judge gave them each a $3,000 bond, which they later paid and then were released. The judge told them they were allowed to leave the state if they wished.
State Rep. Todd Rutherford of Columbia, who also is an attorney, will represent Newsome.
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A group called Ferguson Action tweeted photos and video of the incident, where they refer to the woman who was arrested simply as "Bree." They released this statement:
https://twitter.com/lsarsour/status/614869102549708800
http://www.wltx.com/story/news/2015/06/27/woman-removes-flag-from-state-house/29384039/
Update: Democracy Now! has confirmed Bree Newsome and James Tyson have been released.
http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2015/6/27/this_flag_comes_down_today_bree
Little Star
(17,055 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)newfie11
(8,159 posts)Red Oak
(697 posts)Got a kick out of this line.
I'll bet they wished she would leave the state.
Not gonna happen.
marble falls
(57,097 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)By not making her stay in South Carolina she can go home and also do the talk show circuit.
Red Oak
(697 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I doubt they expected the huge support she received from all over the country.
TBF
(32,062 posts)I cringed when I heard that South Carolina was ready to "debate" removing the flag.
Excuse me? Exactly what is it that isn't clear to you folks about how offensive this is?
I heard Michael Moore is paying Bree's expenses but I wouldn't mind chipping in to help also.
calimary
(81,298 posts)I salute her! She has more guts than all of them combined. She's a hero.
I would point to nikki haley again. She needs to be held responsible. GET OFF YOUR ASS MADAM GOVERNOR. GET THIS DONE. DO AN EXECUTIVE ORDER. To hell with the procedures and the talking and the debating and the stringing it out til you hope people forget or give up or get distracted or move on to other things. Otherwise, I'm betting there will be more attempts like this. I hope there ARE more attempts like this. I still put my best bet on a nice flame-thrower. You don't even have to get a lot of special gear. You don't have to climb up anywhere.
Telcontar
(660 posts)Pray a Republican President never agrees with your methods.
TBF
(32,062 posts)symbol of oppression and bigotry?
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)tradition of civil disobedience.
Enjoy your stay.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Bree Newsome might be the new Rosa Parks.
avebury
(10,952 posts)All her attorney has to do is ask one question - In what way did she deface the "monument?"
She climbed the pole, unhooked the flag and brought it down where she was immediately taken into custody.
Did she throw paint on the flag? No
Did she cut the flag with scissors? No
Did she slash the flag with a knife? No
Did she use a lighter or match to set the flag or fire? No
Just in what way did she deface this "monument?"
They might have made a case for attempted theft but defacing a "monument" would be an abuse of prosecutorial authority and idiotic at the same time.
If the State of South Carolina wants to look like an idiot I guess that this would work.
This is the kind of lame move I would expect Oklahoma to make.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Well, I might change my mind on reading the statute. But unlike other so called heroes, she is willing to face the charges. She probably would not want them dropped. The trial will grant publicity, too. The national debate about the flag would intensify and its popularity would possibly decline.
avebury
(10,952 posts)If she did not damage the flag then the most she would be guilty of is attempted theft.
treestar
(82,383 posts)remove it. It's there by state law. I think she'd prefer the trial to them dismissing the charges, as she can get more mileage out of it that way. And it's likely a misdemeanor at most.
avebury
(10,952 posts)as I found he innocent.
If they are foolish to continue to charge the lady, the state is the one who will look foolish to the world.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Let th look foolish to the world. They should be over this civil war business and their issues with civil rights by now. It's the 21st century
marble falls
(57,097 posts)and do the right thing. Bree Newsome is one of those someones. We need all the Bree Newsomes there are.
vanlassie
(5,675 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,059 posts)James Tyson. See post #10.
When you look at the video - a police officer takes the flag from them, sortof half-rolls/half-bunches it up while they were handcuffed, and then later escorts them away while still in possession of it. They eventually put a new one up.
BumRushDaShow
(129,059 posts)blond-haired, blue-eyed accomplice - Occupy Charleston protestor James Tyson (who held the pole steady and assisted).
"We didn't see it fit to have the flag stand erect while the people who were massacred were laid to rest under it," Lewis said.
The group planned to keep the flag in a box without defacing it as the funerals for the victims are held this week, the youth educator from Charlotte, N.C., said.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/woman-removes-confederate-flag-s-statehouse-grounds-article-1.2273299
The trial is set for July 27 per the below -
State Rep. Todd Rutherford, D-Richland, a Columbia attorney, is representing Newsome. After the bond hearing, Rutherford said Newsome maintains her innocence on the charge. Someone called him and asked him to represent Newsome, he said.
Columbia attorney Mark Schnee is representing Tyson, who he says was standing nearby at the time of the flags removal and did not climb the pole or touch the flag. Schnee said he was contacted by the activist group several days ago and asked about laws and rules regarding protests.
http://www.thestate.com/news/local/article25652377.html
They would be wise to drop it because it would become an absolute media circus and PR nightmare for the state if they went ahead with it.
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,059 posts)For example
This too
The cops usually conveniently "don't show up" and the lawyers request dismissal and it's granted. If every protestor carrying out civil disobedience actually went to trial, the backlog would probably go out hundreds of years.
For example, ACT-UP has an interesting document online for their NY chapter -
A dismissal is the termination of the defendant's charges without any finding a guilt.
One primary basis for requesting the dismissal of the charges is that the charging document is
defective. In the Summons Part, this most often involves the police officer's failure to sign the
summons or, on a disorderly conduct summons, to allege the defendant's intention to block
pedestrians or vehicular traffic. (see People v. Tarka) In non-Summons Part cases, motions to
dismiss based on a defective complaint usually involve facial insufficiency, or the prosecutor's
failure to allege sufficient facts to satisfy the elements of the offense charged. In the summons
part the judge should inspect the summons for sufficiency, in the DAT parts the attorney
should do so.
The second primary basis for a dismissal is justification--which the purpose of the arrestee's
act was to prevent a greater harm. This defense is part of the New York State Law Penal Law
(Section 35.05).
A third, related, ground is "the interests of justice"--that the issue related to the demonstration
or some other fact related to the case (sometimes the police officer's brutality in the arrest)
demands that the case be dismissed. See sample of written motion to dismiss in the interests
of justice. While motions to dismiss may not often be granted, they should be made if there is a grounds.
http://www.actupny.org/documents/CDdocuments/ACTUP_CivilDisobedience.pdf
The legal teams in SC would comb their penal codes for similar. It's pretty routine. Notably, those who often end up held over for trial was because of an assault charge, etc.
cojoel
(957 posts)Prosecutors have discretion to not press charges on a case-by-case basis.
knightmaar
(748 posts)Beartracks
(12,814 posts)He's the guy in the yellow vest, isn't he?
Is it significant to his defense whether or not he touched the flag?
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BumRushDaShow
(129,059 posts)I really don't think SC wants the media circus of a trial (even if their base calls for lynching anyone who desecrates their sacred symbols). Yes, he is the guy in the vest and he was also inside the wrought-iron fenced area around the pole.
They may delay and delay and huff and puff, but I expect that when no one is looking, they will decline to prosecute and drop any potential charges. They know that Hilton Head (among other resorts) is a money-maker and it would be a shame if a boycott during high season is suddenly announced because of teabagger sound and fury that signifies nothing.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Made the last one up, wish I did not have to.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)Gothmog
(145,291 posts)Bree is a great young lady
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 28, 2015, 02:43 PM - Edit history (1)
Thanks for this post. The statement from Ferguson Action is very well written.
kpete
(71,994 posts)greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Thank you!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, Ill rise.
Does my sassiness upset you?
Why are you beset with gloom?
Cause I walk like Ive got oil wells
Pumping in my living room.
Just like moons and like suns,
With the certainty of tides,
Just like hopes springing high,
Still Ill rise.
Did you want to see me broken?
Bowed head and lowered eyes?
Shoulders falling down like teardrops,
Weakened by my soulful cries?
Does my haughtiness offend you?
Dont you take it awful hard
Cause I laugh like Ive got gold mines
Diggin in my own backyard.
You may shoot me with your words,
You may cut me with your eyes,
You may kill me with your hatefulness,
But still, like air, Ill rise.
Does my sexiness upset you?
Does it come as a surprise
That I dance like Ive got diamonds
At the meeting of my thighs?
Out of the huts of historys shame
I rise
Up from a past thats rooted in pain
I rise
Im a black ocean, leaping and wide,
Welling and swelling I bear in the tide.
Leaving behind nights of terror and fear
I rise
Into a daybreak thats wondrously clear
I rise
Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave,
I am the dream and the hope of the slave.
I rise
I rise
I rise.
-- Maya Angelou, 1928 - 2014
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Maya Angelou was a magnificent woman and one of our greatest talents. Her wisdom and spirit are greatly missed.
Bree Newsome's act of bravery and beauty illustrates this:
"Leaving behind nights of terror and fear
I rise
Into a daybreak thats wondrously clear
I rise
Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave,
I am the dream and the hope of the slave.
I rise
I rise
I rise."
candelista
(1,986 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Elaborate on the REAL purpose of your question.....
unlike most of our citizens & politicians
ACTION IS OUR DUTY!!!
She DID SOMETHING!!!!
Telcontar
(660 posts)Niw people who otherwise wouldn't have objected to removal of the flag will insist on preserving it.
Dumbass stunt with forceable blowback
But thanks for your concern.
bvf
(6,604 posts)Even if there were a grain of truth in it, it would just be an example of fence-sitting racists digging in their heels and coming out from under their rocks, to mix metaphors.
She did the right thing. More power to her and her companions.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)brush
(53,784 posts)I'll go with taking heroic action instead of just being a keyboard cynic like some people.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Governor Haley and the South Carolina government are clinging to some antiquated law passed in a time of extreme racial tension to ensure that Whites could always show who was in charge of the state. And yes I know that was the democrats who passed that back in the 60s but many of those democrats left the party to join the republicans after Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights act of 1964 including South Carolina's own Strom Thrurmond.
If Haley wanted to she could just order that the flag be removed and the flagpole be taken down to ensure it could not be put up again. She is too chickenshit. Bree Newsome showed bravery knowing that she could be jailed, she could be beaten and she could possibly be shot for what she did. But she showed that if we want the flag removed we could just get rid of it.
I think of great photos of civil disobedience in our lifetime like the vietnam protestors putting flowers in the national guard's guns or the lone man who stopped the tanks in China's Tiananmen Square. Bree's photo of climbing the flagpole and removing the flag will be one to be remembered throughout history.
Well Behaved women rarely make history!
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)to the fact that it is still flying. Does this hurt your feelings?
brush
(53,784 posts)If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
In your case, if you have to ask, you can't comprehend it.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Someone asked her that exact question.
I hope you stick around for the discussion. I hope this wasn't a drive-by fruiting.
mucifer
(23,547 posts)It was very moving to watch. Although, a lot of news organizations aren't showing the video or telling how she did it. Watching it done is very moving and I'm not Christian.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Like what Rosa Parks did, it shows someone willing to cross the line to make a point.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)and so are millions of others. that is an achievement.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Clearly she got the job when Gov Haley could not.
Haley could order it down. But refuses to give in to the racist ways of South Carolina's past. Shame on Haley!
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)Governor Haley just can't "order" the flag to come down. Her power is not absolute. The flag was put there in 2000 by State legislation. There's a democratic process to remove it which the Governor is advocating for.
Not defending the flag or Governor Haley by any means, just pointing out the reality of the situation.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)sometimes it's just the right thing to do
Telcontar
(660 posts)Oder it anyway if we need information. Simetimes its the right thing to do.
Either we are a nation of laws, or we aren't. Choose wisely
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)but that didn't slow down Bush and Obama doesn't think it was that big a deal because just a few folks got tortured.
The whole purpose of civil disobedience is to break the law.
Telcontar
(660 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)brooklynite
(94,585 posts)I'd take it down for a week or to to check it out...
TheOther95Percent
(1,035 posts)SC has had more than a week to change the law. How long does it take to have a debate and a vote? Not this long. What's taking time is for legislators to take the temperature of their constituents so the "vote" can pass without jeopardizing too many politicians' behinds'.
SC's politicians still haven't gotten into a room to debate a measure to remove that flag.
What is taking so long to have that vote?
It's been 10 days or so since 9 people were murdered because of what that flag represents.
Will that flag still be there in a week, a month, a year?
That is not courage. What Ms. Bree Newsom did took real courage.
Solly Mack
(90,769 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Violent criminals get lower bonds than $3000.00 WTF!
GOD @Niall_JayDub
Cuz she a hero #FreeBree #BLACKGIRLMAGIC #still
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Mahalo kpete
Aerows
(39,961 posts)you see that it is not a billboard.
It is action.