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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:20 AM Jun 2015

Yikes! The Sahara is on the move...WE'RE MELTING OVER HERE!!!







Concern on continent as heatwave set to drive temperatures beyond 40°C (104°F)


‘Exceptionally intense’ conditions prompt weather alerts in Spain, Portugal and France, with elderly people and children most at risk

Several European governments have issued weather warnings as a heatwave sweeping through Portugal, Spain and France pushes temperatures above 40C (104F), raising concerns for elderly people and children.

Paris, which has activated its national heatwave emergency plan, is particularly sensitive to the risks after a European-wide heatwave in 2003 led to nearly 20,000 deaths, killing thousands of isolated elderly people in France.

The French ecology minister, Ségolène Royal, has called on those in charge of air-conditioned public spaces, such as libraries, cinemas and shopping malls, to let in the public for respite from the heat. “I don’t think this heatwave will have the same consequences as the one in 2003 because we weren’t as prepared at that time,” Royal said.

The high temperatures, brought on by a mass of hot air flowing north from Africa to Europe in recent days, are expected to last all week and extend further north to the UK and Belgium.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/30/heatwave-temperature-continent-40-spain-portugal-france

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OK, OK, you hardy folk stateside think that 104°F in the shade is just par for the course.

But, Europeans are NOT used to this and in general aren't equipped to deal with it. Almost nobody has AC in their homes, because it's almost never needed.

The wonderous Gulf Stream usually protects us from the searing Saharan winds, but not right now.

We're stuck in the middle of a super high-pressure front which is keeping the Gulf Stream at bay, and allowing those scorching winds to migrate north.



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Yikes! The Sahara is on the move...WE'RE MELTING OVER HERE!!! (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 OP
Yikes! That is HOT. mnhtnbb Jun 2015 #1
Pant, pant! Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #5
Exceptional intensity & very high risk for the population! Divernan Jun 2015 #2
..."wet their heads and hair and wrap themselves in cool, wet towels." Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #7
Ice cubes on the taint works too. AngryAmish Jun 2015 #57
Desert air conditioning - enlightenment Jun 2015 #66
I did this once when I was in 115° heat in Egypt. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #70
I would send some of this cool, damp weather from Cleveland if I could liberal N proud Jun 2015 #3
Well, bottle up some of that cool and send it our way! LOL! Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #8
Afraid there is bad news for you.... dixiegrrrrl Jun 2015 #38
at least it's a dry heat snooper2 Jun 2015 #4
Thanks be to the weather gods. Rarely has the humidity index been so low here in Paris. Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #6
I was in Paris some years back for 2 weeks in July. Divernan Jun 2015 #9
French people north of the Massif Central just can't handle the heat...NOT used to it. Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #11
True. Homer Wells Jul 2015 #73
I'm in Paris now and it is Lifelong Protester Jun 2015 #10
Well, soyez le bienvenue! It hasn't rained properly for quite a while either, so the dust Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #12
Thank you, I am enjoying Paris Lifelong Protester Jun 2015 #13
Ummm good. Nothing like whole-milk farm yoghurt in glass jars! Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #14
Thank you! Lifelong Protester Jun 2015 #15
MACAROOOOONS! nom, nom! Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #16
Nearest we have back in the states is Brown Cow with cream on top, stir it up and almost same but uppityperson Jun 2015 #19
Brown Cow is goooood. They are supposedly a more "humane" company, too. Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #20
And so it begins... FourScore Jun 2015 #17
I hear ya. I've never been an habituée of the hot, and the idea of endless heatwaves is daunting... Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #18
I absolutely LOVE heat, but not humidity. closeupready Jun 2015 #32
If only climate change deniers could suffer from climate change, if only randys1 Jun 2015 #26
Just wait until all the arctic permafrost melts Blue_In_AK Jun 2015 #40
Pacific Northwest USA here -- We've had a scary hot/dry/rainless June. Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #21
Very disconcerting. It feels like something is seriously out of whack. Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #23
Thank you! Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #24
We hit 110 a couple days ago in Boise IDemo Jun 2015 #29
Whoa. Those are Arizona temps. Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #34
Noooooooooooooooooo! shanti Jun 2015 #36
Well, so far it's not nearly as extreme as California's drought, Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #39
I know! PasadenaTrudy Jun 2015 #41
Well, if even Alaska is burning (literally!), there is probablt no true refuge from the heat. nt tblue37 Jul 2015 #68
there's the midwest shanti Jul 2015 #79
I live in Kansas. Our summer weather has been cooler than usual this year. nt tblue37 Jul 2015 #80
My family is there, I cannot imagine more than a week without rain. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2015 #37
But but but...hoax...snowball...Congress...not a scientist but... Rex Jun 2015 #22
I dare that cretin (can't remember which Con it was) to bring Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #25
I doubt he could find France on a map. I also doubt he knows Rex Jun 2015 #27
I share your contempt totally. They are despicable, selfish egotists, who are Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #28
Those temps could be nasty for the fans and riders of the upcoming Tour de France... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #30
Oh, wow, can't imagine riding a bicycle even on a flat stretch Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #46
Today in Central California: Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #31
I grew up with really hot summers in the Midwest. Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #44
Big problem this early in the year and the fact that it is most of Europe. How long is it expected jwirr Jun 2015 #33
The 'meteo' says for TEN more days! Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #42
That is a long time for 104 degrees. Especially in cities which are hot anyhow. jwirr Jun 2015 #47
The ONLY thing that saves us in the city are the THICK old stone walls that Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #49
Take care and watch out for the elderly if you are near any. This is a disaster for them. jwirr Jun 2015 #50
Are you kidding? I'm ONE of them! LOL! Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #52
Sorry - so am I but I just happen to live in NE MN and it is hot here for this time of year but jwirr Jun 2015 #55
And you have 10,000 lakes to chill out in! LOL! Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #56
"I start drinking as soon as I wake up and then drink every hour on the hour." pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #58
H2O!!! LOL! Not C2H6O... Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #59
When I get there it will be 64 F darn Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #77
Roasting here in SoCal PasadenaTrudy Jun 2015 #35
WOW, you know it's too hot up in these latitudes when you're beating SoCal! Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #43
I am in SoCal PasadenaTrudy Jun 2015 #45
I know, but I'm in France, at the same latitude as Canada, and we're rivalling your temps HERE! Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #48
Got it PasadenaTrudy Jun 2015 #62
I'm in Texas Skittles Jun 2015 #65
And, amazingly wet over your way as well. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #72
Welcome to our world. nt valerief Jun 2015 #51
... Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #53
Yeah, it won't be long before it's just like the friggin' moron movies valerief Jun 2015 #54
Ugh, that is awful. Stay safe! raouldukelives Jun 2015 #60
This IS my survial strategy... Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #61
The other thing that really has helped me the last few years raouldukelives Jul 2015 #78
Ugh! What a nightmare! I feel for you! smirkymonkey Jun 2015 #63
"I spend more time inside in the summer than I do in the winter..." Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #64
104 is obsene... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #67
The amazing Ann Miller telling it like it is... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #69
35° C here in Sprout City today DFW Jul 2015 #71
No kidding...Were you in Deutschland in 2003? The last GREAT HEAT? Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #74
That's what the guest room in the basement is for. DFW Jul 2015 #75
I moved to Texas in 92 awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #76

mnhtnbb

(31,394 posts)
1. Yikes! That is HOT.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:30 AM
Jun 2015

We have --had exceptionally hot weather all June in NC--about 10 degrees higher than our average
high of mid-80's for June. There's been a high pressure ridge just stuck over the lower mid-Atlantic
states for weeks now.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
5. Pant, pant!
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:38 AM
Jun 2015

I think that your high pressure ridge has moved over here pushed by the prevailing westerlies.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
2. Exceptional intensity & very high risk for the population!
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:35 AM
Jun 2015
“These are not usual meteorological phenomena, [they are] of an exceptional intensity and with a very high level of risk for the population,” a spokesman for Spain’s national weather office said.

Madrid city hall was advising everyone to remain hydrated by drinking at least three litres of water per day and avoiding alcohol. Temperatures in the countryside around Córdoba in southern Spain were expected to rise to 44C (111F).

In the Andalusian capital of Seville, where temperatures reached 42C (108F), children and adults soaked their feet in city fountains while others jumped from bridges into the Guadalquivir river. Beaches across Spain’s southern coast were packed as the heatwave coincided with the start of the high season for tourism.

French authorities have set up a heatwave register in certain towns where isolated elderly people can be checked up on by a phonecall or home visit. Royal recommended that the most vulnerable – older people and children – wet their heads and hair and wrap themselves in cool, wet towels.
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
7. ..."wet their heads and hair and wrap themselves in cool, wet towels."
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:44 AM
Jun 2015

That's my way of coping, plus a chemical cold-pack in my freezer.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
66. Desert air conditioning -
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:15 PM
Jun 2015

Soak a sheet in water and hang it in your window or doorway - whatever breeze you get will be cooled as it passes through the sheet.

If you can do that, try attaching a wet (not dripping) dishcloth to a fan - same effect. It's localized, but it does help.

In Southern Nevada in the 1920s and 30s, people would wet down their bed sheets before sleeping - it sounds clammy, but it apparently did help.

I wish you all luck. My son lives in London and he's cooking in his own juices.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
70. I did this once when I was in 115° heat in Egypt.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:43 AM
Jul 2015
"In Southern Nevada in the 1920s and 30s, people would wet down their bed sheets before sleeping..."


Thanks for the courage, and good luck to your son! It's really headed England's way today (July 1st.)

I know the dishcloth/fan trick, too. That's how I survived the last "GREAT HEAT" in 2003.

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
3. I would send some of this cool, damp weather from Cleveland if I could
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:35 AM
Jun 2015

We have had the coolest wettest June. Saw on the tv this am that it was the 3rd wettest month on record for Cleveland.

I tried to play golf last night, it was quite a mud-fest, if you didn't land in water, you were standing in it to swing your club.

The temp this week hasn't been above 70 and we had nearly 5 inches of rain on Saturday.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
9. I was in Paris some years back for 2 weeks in July.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 10:15 AM
Jun 2015

Spent Bastille Day with a Parisian family - Mom, doctor Dad,elderly grandfather and two kids (8 & 5). We drove out into the country for an excursion to the exquisite château d'Anet. It was a sunny day but the temps were only(only, to my way of thinking) in the high 70's.

However my French hosts found that amount of heat debilitating and were constantly stopping to make sure the kids were drinking plenty of water and no one was over-heated. Statistically, July & August are the warmest months in Paris, but the high temp is only 20 degrees C or 69 degrees F. So a 35 degree increase to the current predicted 104F is quite stressful physically and mentally.
On that Bastille Day, at the height of the heat, we stopped at a lovely country auberge for a leisurely 2 hour lunch - great food, great wine and great conversations. Vive la France & Paris, je t'aime!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
11. French people north of the Massif Central just can't handle the heat...NOT used to it.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 10:31 AM
Jun 2015


Anything above 20 to 25°C and we begin to expire! LOL!

Further south, in the Midi, they're used to higher and drier temps.

"So a 35 degree increase to the current predicted 104F is quite stressful physically and mentally."


That's for sure--a shock to the system.

VIVE LA BELLE ET DOUCE FRANCE !

The French countryside is a world treasure. I don't know the Château d'Anet. Will have to look it up.
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
12. Well, soyez le bienvenue! It hasn't rained properly for quite a while either, so the dust
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 10:34 AM
Jun 2015

factor is high. Lots of allergy and asthma complaints.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
13. Thank you, I am enjoying Paris
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:32 AM
Jun 2015

( a trip of a lifetime for me!) but it is so dusty in the Tuileries and the Louvre courtyard-I hate to keep "stealing" paper towels from public bathrooms to clean my shoes! sure wish I could get that yogurt in little jars back in the states!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
14. Ummm good. Nothing like whole-milk farm yoghurt in glass jars!
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:37 AM
Jun 2015

There's an organic brand that's REALLY good.

Have a good trip back! And happy memories.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
15. Thank you!
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:40 AM
Jun 2015

I love the whole milk yogurt we've had here.

I am saving up a lot of good memories-and bringing home some macaroons!

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
19. Nearest we have back in the states is Brown Cow with cream on top, stir it up and almost same but
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jun 2015

I missed the bread even more. USA "french bread" is not anywhere near French daily bread. My grocery gets tired of me squeezing the bagettes and muttering nope nope nope argh to myself.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
20. Brown Cow is goooood. They are supposedly a more "humane" company, too.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 12:24 PM
Jun 2015

Their chocolate and coffee flavored yogurts make a tasty desert.

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
17. And so it begins...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:47 AM
Jun 2015

I wonder what global warming will look like in 10 years from now. I am so worried. Scared even, if I let myself go there.

Right now, in Upstate NY, there is a fine drizzle and about 75 degrees out. But last winter was one of the most brutal I have ever experienced.

How can anyone still be in denial of climate change?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
18. I hear ya. I've never been an habituée of the hot, and the idea of endless heatwaves is daunting...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:52 AM
Jun 2015
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
32. I absolutely LOVE heat, but not humidity.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:16 PM
Jun 2015

Could NEVER live somewhere like Florida or Louisiana due to the latter.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
40. Just wait until all the arctic permafrost melts
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:30 PM
Jun 2015

and releases tons of methane into the atmosphere, which will happen sooner rather than later if these fires keep up.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
21. Pacific Northwest USA here -- We've had a scary hot/dry/rainless June.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 12:26 PM
Jun 2015

I miss moisture. If I had wanted scorching summers and everything turning brown and dusty I would have moved back to California.

Very eerie feeling to this ... Can't help but think we are all starting to circle the drain.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
23. Very disconcerting. It feels like something is seriously out of whack.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 12:31 PM
Jun 2015
Pacific NW. Wishing you some healing and soothing rain.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
29. We hit 110 a couple days ago in Boise
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 01:36 PM
Jun 2015

Blew the old record off the charts, nearly 25 degrees above normal. Me and the dogs and the garden are ready for September.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
34. Whoa. Those are Arizona temps.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jun 2015

I'm not cut out to live in a desert climate. Some people love it, but it makes me feel like I'm withering up.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
36. Noooooooooooooooooo!
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:53 PM
Jun 2015

I'm still stuck in parched NorCal (supposed to be 109 today!) and the PNW is my future destination, probably within the next 5 years. Please don't say there's no more rain up there!

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
39. Well, so far it's not nearly as extreme as California's drought,
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:26 PM
Jun 2015

but this June feels like what mid-August usually feels like. I usually don't have to water my rhodies until well into the summer, but this year I've gotta turn the hose on 'em pretty early.

I've got a family member in the Bay Area who is getting out, too. She can't take the endless heat/drought/brownness.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
25. I dare that cretin (can't remember which Con it was) to bring
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 12:34 PM
Jun 2015

his 'snowball' over here and try to hold it for 10 seconds down in the Paris streets.

They will only wake up when its their property or livelihood that are under threat.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
27. I doubt he could find France on a map. I also doubt he knows
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 12:40 PM
Jun 2015

we've entered the 6th great mass extinction cycle. I would never put money into any of them being worth even a warm pitcher of spit.

Florida is sinking under the waves of Mother Earth. They don't care Surya, the just don't. And that is why I hate them so. All that crap about Good Shepards went in one ear and out the other.

If I could build a big enough spaceship, I would launch them all into the Sun and tell them it doesn't really exist so shut up and eat some cake.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
28. I share your contempt totally. They are despicable, selfish egotists, who are
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 12:47 PM
Jun 2015

going to sink the mothership Earth through their greed and avidity.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
30. Those temps could be nasty for the fans and riders of the upcoming Tour de France...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:08 PM
Jun 2015

...at least until they get into the higher elevations...

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
46. Oh, wow, can't imagine riding a bicycle even on a flat stretch
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 06:06 PM
Jun 2015

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in this crushing heat, let alone on the 'pentes'.

It's coming your way tomorrow, truebrit! Assuming you're somewhere in southern England?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
44. I grew up with really hot summers in the Midwest.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:59 PM
Jun 2015

But, am no longer accustomed--the average summer temp here in northern France is 70-75°F.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
33. Big problem this early in the year and the fact that it is most of Europe. How long is it expected
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:20 PM
Jun 2015

to last?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
49. The ONLY thing that saves us in the city are the THICK old stone walls that
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 06:14 PM
Jun 2015

serve as a natural insulator.

But, they also throw off the heat at night, making it tough to sleep.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
52. Are you kidding? I'm ONE of them! LOL!
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 06:34 PM
Jun 2015

Non-stop PSAs on TV advising people to 'REHYDRATE'.

The heat won't kill ya, but dehydration will.

I start drinking as soon as I wake up and then drink every hour on the hour.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
55. Sorry - so am I but I just happen to live in NE MN and it is hot here for this time of year but
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 06:52 PM
Jun 2015

nothing like you are facing.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
58. "I start drinking as soon as I wake up and then drink every hour on the hour."
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 06:59 PM
Jun 2015

I don't think you meant that the way it came out.

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
35. Roasting here in SoCal
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:35 PM
Jun 2015

Humidity is 46% right now and around 90 degrees. This is hard on me even with a/c. I'm very heat sensitive. Anything over 80 makes me feel sick. We don't normally have this humidity, either. I think I'd be dead if I was in Europe, seriously! Hope things get better for us all. Soon!!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
43. WOW, you know it's too hot up in these latitudes when you're beating SoCal!
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:56 PM
Jun 2015

If you look at the globe, you'll see that we're (France) at the same latitude as Canada.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
48. I know, but I'm in France, at the same latitude as Canada, and we're rivalling your temps HERE!
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 06:11 PM
Jun 2015

Your SoCal temps, I mean.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
72. And, amazingly wet over your way as well.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:02 AM
Jul 2015

What the hell is going on?



Pack up a case of that cool and send it our way!

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
60. Ugh, that is awful. Stay safe!
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 07:41 PM
Jun 2015

I've lived my entire life in an area that gets as high as 120F and have never had a home or car with AC.

Lots of water, lots of hats, lots of fans, leave the house open all night and closed tight during the day.

Thankfully its a low humidity area. But one tiny shift like this would wreak devastating havoc on those trapped in one.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
78. The other thing that really has helped me the last few years
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:46 PM
Jul 2015

are these things called cool wraps or cooling scarves. They are like a scarf with tiny beads inside that hold moisture like an ice pack.

You soak them in water and put them in the fridge and then wear them around your neck or wherever you like.
I got mine cheap at a local discount store. Stay cool!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
63. Ugh! What a nightmare! I feel for you!
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:27 PM
Jun 2015

I absolutely hate the heat. I am uncomfortable when it goes above 75 F.

We have been lucky here in Boston so far, it has been a fairly mild June, only a few humid days. Usually our summers are beastly hot and humid. I think I spend more time inside in the summer than I do in the winter because I can't bear the heat. Luckily, I don't have to pay for my AC, so I can keep it cool on hot days.

Hopefully things will cool down for you soon!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
69. The amazing Ann Miller telling it like it is...
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:32 AM
Jul 2015


Wonder if she could sing and dance like this in 104° temps...LOL!

DFW

(54,409 posts)
71. 35° C here in Sprout City today
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:46 AM
Jul 2015

It's unusual enough to see the sun, but 35°?? That's 95° F in a country where air conditioners are considered exotic. We don't even have one in our house in Germany. That may have to change if this keeps up.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
74. No kidding...Were you in Deutschland in 2003? The last GREAT HEAT?
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:11 AM
Jul 2015


Exotic air conditioners? Talk to the French. Even down in the Midi, they rely on the thick old stone walls to keep them cool in summer.

I've got ALL three of my fans working non-stop, one in the ceiling, a big rotating one on a stand, and a smaller one on the counter in the kitchen.


Have stripped down to a damp T-shirt.

Shutters and windows closed to the blast of heat from the street and courtyard.


KEEP COOL ! ! !

DFW

(54,409 posts)
75. That's what the guest room in the basement is for.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:48 AM
Jul 2015

Here in Sprout City, the offices I'm working in have AC, as does my hotel room. Outside, though, it feels like Dallas, which is VERY weird!

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
76. I moved to Texas in 92
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:00 PM
Jul 2015

In Cleveland, OH, at the time, very few had AC. Down here you can't live without it. I get what you are saying.

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