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shraby

(21,946 posts)
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:51 PM Jun 2015

Wouldn't the confederate flag be considered a foreign flag?

As such, foreign flags are not usually flown on government property, and that's usually to honor a visiting dignitary and comes down after the person leaves.
They are never flown higher than the U.S. flag.

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Wouldn't the confederate flag be considered a foreign flag? (Original Post) shraby Jun 2015 OP
Punishment? HassleCat Jun 2015 #1
Life, at least. B2G Jun 2015 #3
Lol. bravenak Jun 2015 #5
technically, it would be a defunct flag, as it is currently HFRN Jun 2015 #2
Was it ever acknowledged as a country by the legal US government? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #4
Whether the US government did or not, the Southern states did by shraby Jun 2015 #6
The Confederate Flag is an American Scar Uncle Joe Jun 2015 #7
No. No foreign govt ever recognized the CSA, HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #8
The Cherokee Nation considered themselves a foreign ally former9thward Jun 2015 #11
I did not know that. Tnx. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #13
It's not even a real flag at this point. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #9
Lincoln would not agree with you. former9thward Jun 2015 #10
Lincoln also felt that the whole nation was to blame which is difficult for many people to accept. Uncle Joe Jun 2015 #12
good question Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #14
Perhaps -- but it would be this one: KamaAina Jun 2015 #15
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
1. Punishment?
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:55 PM
Jun 2015

People are always demanding criminal punishment for those who burn the US flag. How much prison time should you get for displaying the rebel flag, the symbol of an illegal government that caused suffering and death for much of the population?

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
2. technically, it would be a defunct flag, as it is currently
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:55 PM
Jun 2015

not representative of any nation. It *was* a foreign flag to northern states, and the national flag of SC for a few years, but now it is defunct, and technically not appropriate over any US State capitol, regardless of what it represents, positive or negative

shraby

(21,946 posts)
6. Whether the US government did or not, the Southern states did by
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 03:10 PM
Jun 2015

having a president/cabinet, a flag, an army, munitions to wage war with, money. All the makings of a separate country.

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
7. The Confederate Flag is an American Scar
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 03:20 PM
Jun 2015


Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars.
Khalil Gibran


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A lot of us grow up and we grow out of the literal interpretation that we get when we're children, but we bear the scars all our life. Whether they're scars of beauty or scars of ugliness, it's pretty much in the eye of the beholder.

Stephen King


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Scars show toughness: that you've been through it, and you're still standing.
Theo Rossi


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Never mind. The self is the least of it. Let our scars fall in love.
Galway Kinnell


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Scar tissue is stronger than regular tissue. Realize the strength, move on.
Henry Rollins


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You don't learn from successes; you don't learn from awards; you don't learn from celebrity; you only learn from wounds and scars and mistakes and failures. And that's the truth.
Jane Fonda


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Thanks for the thread, shraby.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
9. It's not even a real flag at this point.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 03:28 PM
Jun 2015

It's a decoration. HT/Larry Wilmore of The Nightly Show.

For it to be a foreign flag, it would have to be from a recognized state. The confederacy was not either of those, as far as I know.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
10. Lincoln would not agree with you.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 03:29 PM
Jun 2015

Lincoln did not consider the Confederate states to be a foreign country. He considered those states to be in rebellion against the central U.S. government. That is not a foreign country.

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
12. Lincoln also felt that the whole nation was to blame which is difficult for many people to accept.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 03:41 PM
Jun 2015


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026921665

At this second appearing to take the oath of the presidential office, there is
less occasion for an extended address than there was at the first. Then a
statement, somewhat in detail, of a course to be pursued, seemed fitting and
proper. Now, at the expiration of four years, during which public declarations
have been constantly called forth on every point and phase of the great contest
which still absorbs the attention, and engrosses the energies of the
nation, little that is new could be presented. The progress of our arms, upon
which all else chiefly depends, is as well-known to the public as to myself; and
it is, I trust, reasonably satisfactory and encouraging to all. With high hope
for the future, no prediction in regard to it is ventured.

On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago, all thoughts were anxiously
directed to an impending civil war. All dreaded it…all sought to avert it.
While the inaugural address was being delivered from this place, devoted
altogether to saving the Union without war…seeking to dissolve the Union, and
divide effects, by negotiation. Both parties deprecated war; but one of them
would make war rather than let the nation survive; and the other would accept
war rather than let it perish. And the war came.

One eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the Southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and
powerful interest. All knew that this interest was, somehow, the cause of the
war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for
which the insurgents would rend the Union, even by war, while the government
claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it.

Neither party expected for the war, the magnitude, or the duration, which it has
already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease
with, or even before, the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an
easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same
Bible, and pray to the same God; and each invokes His aid against the other. It
may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God’s assistance in
wringing their bread from the seat of other men’s faces; but let us judge not
that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered; that of
neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. “Woe unto
the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe
to that man by whom the offence cometh!” If we shall suppose that American
Slavery is one of those offences which, in the providence of God, must needs
come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to
remove, and that He gives to both North and South, this terrible war, as the woe
due to those by whom the offence came, shall we discern therein any departure
from those divine attributes which the believers in a Living God always ascribe
to Him?
Fondly do we hope–fervently do we pray–that this mighty scourge of war
may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth
piled by the bond-man’s two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be
sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by
another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it
must be said “the judgments of the Lord, are true and righteous altogether.”

With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the
right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we
are in; to bind up the nation’s wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the
battle, and for his widow, and his orphan – to do all which may achieve and
cherish a just, and a lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations.”

http://www.civilwarbummer.com/lincolns-second-inaugural-eloquence-or-bind-up-the-nations-wounds/



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