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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 06:44 PM Jun 2015

Trans-Pacific Partnership: Obama Sides With the Wrong People for the Wrong Reasons at the Wrong Time

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-a-palermo/transpacific-partnership-obama_b_7665862.html

By siding with the Republicans and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell in passing "fast-track" trade authority as a step toward signing the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), President Barack Obama triangulated against labor unions, environmentalists, consumer activists, and the base of his party.

The 60-38 vote in the Senate to give the president (and the next president) more executive power to negotiate trade agreements, which garnered the support of thirteen Democratic Senators, followed months of bitter in-fighting among Democrats.

President Obama not only expended his own "political capital" by pushing for fast-track but that of the Democratic Party too. He had a clear choice: either side with workers, environmentalists, consumers, and progressives - or side with Wall Street, Big Pharma, Walmart, and the Koch Brothers.

Republicans have been whining about Obama's "unconstitutional power grabs" for over six years. Now they turn around and give him fast-track authority - Wow! It's creepy to see Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan praising Barack Obama.
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Trans-Pacific Partnership: Obama Sides With the Wrong People for the Wrong Reasons at the Wrong Time (Original Post) KamaAina Jun 2015 OP
When has this administration ever not sided with Wall Street? villager Jun 2015 #1
Republicans have been whining about Obama's "unconstitutional power grabs" FiveGoodMen Jun 2015 #2
I recognized it as theater long ago. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #14
since 1992, no matter who you elect, you get these trade deals HFRN Jun 2015 #3
good thing a democrat negotiated it though TheFarseer Jun 2015 #8
True, Clinton protected workers from NAFTA harm nt HFRN Jun 2015 #10
And trade has SOARED to between 1/3 and 1/2 of the level it is in progressive countries. pampango Jul 2015 #17
so, no one was hurt by NAFTA or MFN-China, you say? nt HFRN Jul 2015 #18
Progressive countries have more "NAFTAs" than the US and the same China in the WTO and do just fine. pampango Jul 2015 #19
But we'll love him anyway! Maedhros Jun 2015 #4
and yet a DU member today... grasswire Jun 2015 #5
291 accomplishments and counting... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #7
Too soon to be critical. He just wowed us with "Amazing Grace" WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jun 2015 #6
Thread win! KamaAina Jun 2015 #12
Yes it is the win. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #15
K&R! Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #9
We didn't elect a republican president for a reason! RiverLover Jun 2015 #11
We unknowingly elected a republican. Broward Jun 2015 #13
Never again appalachiablue Jul 2015 #16
Because in post CU America it literally matters less what you vote for raouldukelives Jul 2015 #20

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
2. Republicans have been whining about Obama's "unconstitutional power grabs"
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 06:51 PM
Jun 2015

All theater.

The voters might be fooled, but the real power-grabbers know what's going on.

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
3. since 1992, no matter who you elect, you get these trade deals
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 07:06 PM
Jun 2015

and if you oppose them, like most people do, you have NO choice on election day

none

TheFarseer

(9,323 posts)
8. good thing a democrat negotiated it though
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 10:00 PM
Jun 2015

Because now he can attempt but fail to get protections for workers and the environment that the corps would ignore anyway. So thank God for that.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
17. And trade has SOARED to between 1/3 and 1/2 of the level it is in progressive countries.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:43 AM
Jul 2015

Trade is 24% of the US economy, 70% of Germany's, 60% of Canada's, 65% of Sweden's, 45% of Australia's, etc.

If increasing trade caused our economic problems, progressive countries would already be basket-cases of inequality and unemployment. They are not.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
19. Progressive countries have more "NAFTAs" than the US and the same China in the WTO and do just fine.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:07 AM
Jul 2015

China trades more with Europe than with the US. No one can say that "no one is hurt" by trade and trade agreements, but on balance progressive countries seem to think that they are good for their countries or they would have less of both than we do. Instead they have much more.

There is a lesson to be learned from the fact that best income equality and the strongest middle classes and unions are found in countries that trade much, much more than we do. While the country that trades the least (the US) has the worst income equality and weakest middle class and unions. It would leave one to believe that trade is not a crucial factor just a policy choice that progressive countries make.

As long as we concentrate on "solving" a problem (trade and trade agreements) that progressive countries don't view as 'problems', and spend less energy on the fight for liberal policies like progressive taxes, support for unions and adequate safety nets that progressive countries all have, our economic problems and inequality will continue. No country, including our own, has ever solved the problem of income inequality through trade restrictions. FDR did not do that. Neither do progressive countries today.

I realize that solving these problems is more difficult (hence not a 'realistic' goal in the eyes of some) because we will get zero help from republicans on any of them while we can at least get the support of tea party folks in congress and public who hate trade agreements too.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
4. But we'll love him anyway!
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 07:36 PM
Jun 2015

No matter how many times he screws us over and rubs our faces in it, we'll still pretend he's a Progressive.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
5. and yet a DU member today...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:51 PM
Jun 2015

....had the audacity to term Obama as "an ally on the left" of progressives.

Harumph.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
7. 291 accomplishments and counting...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:31 PM
Jun 2015

Apparently all He needs to do is start a discussion, and it gets listed as an accomplishment.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
20. Because in post CU America it literally matters less what you vote for
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jul 2015

Than it does what you work for.

Sure, someone can always vote and speak progressive, but if every other action in that persons life benefits those fighting for regression, in the end, that individuals life it is at its very best a one step forward, two steps back legacy.

We are where a lot of people invested and labored for us to be. One persons pain is one persons pleasure.

I mean, people can gobble down a $200 lunch on Wall St and not even think of the lashes across the backs of children that money represents.

Just as Thomas Jefferson could wax eloquent on the rights of man, he could only do so off the suffering of the least among us. As great as his legacy was, and is, it is only because of his intelligence and the battles for independence for all of us, saving that, he is just another slave owner.

Just like many people and politicians today.

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