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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:57 PM Jul 2015

When Brooklyn juries gentrify, defendants lose

http://nypost.com/2014/06/16/brooklyn-gentrification-is-changing-juries-who-decide-cases/

Brooklyn’s courthouses are being rocked by the “Williamsburg Effect.”

The influx of well-off and educated white people to trendy neighborhoods such as Williamsburg is rapidly “gentrifying’’ the borough’s jury pool — and transforming verdicts, lawyers and judges told The Post.

It’s good news for prosecutors in criminal cases — and bad news for plaintiffs in civil lawsuits, they said.

“They are . . . much more trusting of police,” Clark said of the jurors. “I’m not sure people from the University of Vermont would believe that a police officer would (plant) a gun.’’


I never thought about that, but it makes sense.
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bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
11. Very quickly and Brooklyn is a study in sharp contrasts of poverty and wealth-
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:39 PM
Jul 2015

Huge influx of upper middle class raised in a very different environment. It's odd that way.

Renew Deal

(81,877 posts)
2. Beware "confident and educated hipster jurors."
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:12 PM
Jul 2015
A contrarian-minded person — and Billyburg has them in spades — can cause discord in the jury room. And if the hipster gets along with everyone, that can even be more dangerous because they are confident and educated, which means they have the potential to hijack the jury.”


That's crazy. Do we want insecure uneducated jurors? It's a weird statement.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
5. Surely better-educated, well-informed people are more likely to reach a correct verdict?
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:09 PM
Jul 2015

Now, not every prosecutor or defense lawyer is necessarily going to see that as a plus.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
6. It depends on whether they can see past their experience or not
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:28 PM
Jul 2015

White people often have different experiences with the police than black people do. This leads them to put more stock in the police testimony, rather than being skeptical.

Bryant

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
7. I was referring to better educated, better informed jurors,
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jul 2015

not white jurors versus black jurors.

Anyone who is well-informed and follows the news will be well aware of the numerous cases of police misconduct, and will know not to necessarily trust police testimony, regardless of their own personal experiences with cops. And I would think that this applies to the vast majority of DUers, regardless of their race.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
9. Well that's probably true; but gentrification doesn't necessarily lead to better
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:35 PM
Jul 2015

educated, and better informed jurors on the issues of racial justice - you can be quite successful and well educated and still be pretty well wrapped in your own blanket of white privilege.

Bryant

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