Satire Without Humor Is Just A Straight Up Lie

[lame54]

Check out this example:

http://joeforamerica.com/2015/06/in-celebration-of-ramadan-obama-signs-executive-order-banning-confederate-flag/#

[djean111]

1. I took a hit for the team - that website is Joe the Plumber, and we should not give it hits. IMO.

[madokie]

2. Thank you

Joe the not plumber, what a farce he and mcInsane were/are.

[djean111]

3. Basically, it is a lame Onion-style thing that imagines Obama as favoring Islam.

Joe hatessssss Islam. And Obama.

[madokie]

7. Is he even smart enough to know what hate is

What a dumb ass he was and to think that mcInsane and sparkle moose were the 'CONs pick to run against 'that one.' Wasn't that how mcInsane referred to Obama at one point?
Speaking of mcInsane what happened to him? did he go to take a shit and the hogs ate him or what?

full of questions this morning, I am
Have a great forth of July weekend

Feel the Bern

[PotatoChip]

8. 'Sparkle Moose'

I never heard that one before!

[Whiskeytide]

4. Agreed. N/t

[marble falls]

5. Satire Without Humor Is Just A Straight Up Lie:

Just like The Nil Admirari.

[Gothmog]

6. Conservatives do not understand satire and lack a sense of humor

Conservatives are really bad at humor and do not understand satire. Look at the Greg Gutfeld show Fox. It is really bad and is getting the same type of reviews as Fox's first attempt at humor-that Half Hour News Hour

[Iggo]

10. People who don't get satire feel victimized by it.

And so they think that's the whole point of it, to victimize someone.

[Igel]

9. Not all satire is funny.

Some is so savage in its ridicule that it's not funny. 1984 and Heart of a Dog were satire. Most people I know don't laugh at them. They see the irony and ridicule, but don't find it "ha-ha" funny. I personally didn't see anything in the Bulgakov novella to laugh at, not at all. If anything, it was depressing.

Now, Olesha's "Envy," that I found funny in places. Not in others. But often that was less satire and more Olesha's purpose of literature to be find in a kind of "alienation" of reality.

It's also been noted that even when it is humorous, the target of the "light" satire doesn't usually see the humor. It takes a certain amount of dissociation, sometimes just a little but oftn so much that it starts to look like some sort of dissociative disorder, to distance yourself emotionally from the target to be able to evaluate the irony and not have the satire cut at you, as well.

That said, it's hard to do satire well. A lot of what's dubbed light "satire" is simple mocking and parody, not satire at all.