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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe ugly war on gay rights: When “religious freedom” becomes “freedom from laws”
With gay marriage legal, Ted Cruz wants to undermine the Constitution in the name of "religious liberty"SIMON MALOY
When the Supreme Court decision in Obergefell v. Hodges came down and same-sex marriage was suddenly, finally legalized throughout the country, the response from social conservatives was loud and predictable: What about our religious liberty? Weve seen versions of this fight play out time and again over the last few months and years as religious conservatives have sought to slow the rapid advance of gay rights by arguing that their constitutionally protected religious freedoms are threatened when the state makes it illegal to discriminate against gays. With the Obergefell ruling, the religious liberty crowd are facing their most challenging setback: If marriage equality for gays is now the law of the land, what can one do to protect ones religious freedom?
Republicans like Ted Cruz and the Republican attorney general of Texas think they have the answer, and it gets to the ugly trajectory of the religious freedom push against gay rights: If the law wont allow you your religious freedom, well, then, declare your freedom from the law.
Cruz laid out his argument on NPR a few days ago, claiming that states that werent parties to the Obergefell suit are not bound by it and theres no legal obligation to acquiesce to anything other than a court judgment. In an interview with the Texas Tribune, Cruz said that government clerks should absolutely be able to refuse to issue marriage licenses if they have a religious objection. Ours is a country that was built by men and women fleeing religious oppression. Cruzs opinion on the matter was joined by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, who wrote that county clerks and their employees retain religious freedoms that may provide accommodation of their religious objections to issuing same-sex marriage licenses.
So there you have it: two high-ranking conservative public officials explicitly arguing that government employees may ignore the law if they can claim a religious objection. As the Atlantics David Graham writes, this is the very stuff of nullification theory: the idea that states are either not obligated to follow federal law or that states can pass laws that supersede federal law. Anyone whos spent any time studying the Constitution like Harvard Law graduate and former Texas solicitor general Ted Cruz, for example knows that nullification is flagrantly unconstitutional and undermines the very foundations of our system of government.
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http://www.salon.com/2015/07/03/the_ugly_war_on_gay_rights_when_religious_freedom_becomes_freedom_from_laws/
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The ugly war on gay rights: When “religious freedom” becomes “freedom from laws” (Original Post)
DonViejo
Jul 2015
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on point
(2,506 posts)1. Country built by those fleeing religious oppression -like Ted Cruz's
Obviously doesn't get the whole idea of separation of church and state, history, and why society needs to be protected from tyranny of religion and the likes of Ted Cruz
dickthegrouch
(3,174 posts)2. NOTHING in the Marriage Equality ruling affects Religions
I don't get it.
The Churches are tax exempted private member's clubs who can set their own rules.
The State is obligated to treat everyone equally.
There is no conflict between those two.
The Federal government and States confer economic and contractual benefits to those who are married. It has always said it did so with equal protection (It was wrong). Now that has, in some measure, been corrected.
Separation of church and State is a WONDERFUL thing.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)3. Great title! (nt)
kentuck
(111,103 posts)4. Basically, the issue...
Churches have a right to disagree with the laws of the country but they have no right to disobey those laws.