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Fox News built a f**ked-up Frankenstein, dumb, angry and divorced from facts. Now Donald Trump will devour themConservative media destroyed conservative politics. The right's impossible to take seriously. Then came Trump!
SEAN ILLING
Fox News and the conservative media-industrial complex have created a Frankenstein. His name is Donald Trump, and his political success is now a huge problem for the Republican Party. In so many ways, Trumps political existence was inevitable. For years, Fox News and the conservative talk radio machine have played to the populist Tea Party id: fomenting fear, demonizing immigrants, and enabling every nativist anxiety imaginable. Now theyre paying the price.
Donald Trump is practically a mirror image of the Fox News psyche. Most of his speeches consist of repackaged stupidities plucked right out of the conservative mediascape. Its kind of brilliant, really. Trump knows his audience, and he beams back at them every idiotic thing they want to hear. Which, of course, is exactly what Fox News does.
The wonderful irony of all this is that the conservative media have ruined conservative politics, far more than liberals ever did. And the results speak for themselves. Its true that Fox News has promoted the conservative brand and very likely energized grass-roots conservatism in some sense, but at what cost? The GOP, increasingly, is no longer a national party its confined more and more to the South and to pockets of rural America.
The Republicans have had their share of electoral successes in recent years, and Fox News surely aided in that, but if you look closely youll see that the political success of conservatives have not led to policy successes. On the contrary, liberalism is winning. Obama, for instance, has been one of the most consequential presidents in modern American history. Both politically and culturally, the country is more liberal today than it was a decade ago. And this has happened in spite of the triumph of Fox News and conservative media.
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underpants
(182,826 posts)W
W's war of lies
Endless scandals
Etc.
Devastating political defeats in 2006 (a woman speaker?) and in 2008 (a black President?).
The only thing that kept the GOP alive was Fox News (and the MSM followed) and gerrymandering.
If it wasn't for the money, power, gerrymandering, electronic voting, and
a dirty media the republicans would be dead in many parts of America* because
@ their heart the GOP is against what is good for the American people.
In 2012 Obama and Sen. Brown won Ohio by good margins but 11 of the 15
house districts went republican depite there being more Ds then Rs in voting
in this state.
* Oklahoma, Utah, Idaho, and parts of Texas and other states might be lost
causes ...... Fox News viewers too.
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)The rest of what you note is the not the cause, it is symptoms.
They stir the pot to generate the anger,maximize the stupidity.
But, the stupid is the problem, and sorry to say, it isn't going anywhere, it has only gotten worse and more pronounced since the early 90s when I a young adult.
The only time the GOP takes a hit is when it is really, REALLY bad, as you noted, in 06 ...
But, by 2010 the country gleefully let that go and gave them the power back.
The only time this country got past the stupid was BHO getting reelected.
Other than that, we have been relishing in the stupid since he first got elected.
calimary
(81,307 posts)So I guess the "Frankenstein" meme works well. They are the undead. Still able to rise from the grave anyway and wreak havoc.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)trump's ranting is part of a larger prearranged plan by the GOP to see how far they can go with the racist bigoted rhetoric.
Why?
Any time he spews his level of rehearsed insanity, it makes the other repubs look sane in comparison.
This is being done on purpose.
tavernier
(12,392 posts)who post endless sunshine and flower sayings on facebook regarding the importance of equality for all, respect for the planet, love of fellow man. Then shortly after, they reaffirm their conservatism in case anyone should misunderstand their party leanings.
My daughter and I are taking bets as to when they will finally realize that they are democrats.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)I'd love to know what they've decided.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I grew up in a center right household and adopted the politics of my parents as my own. Words like "democrat" and "liberal" were bad words in my house. I considered myself a republican until 2004 - when I found myself reading a number of books talking about how bad corporations were and the plight of the working class when I wasn't on patrol and I started to think of myself more as an independent. It wasn't until after Obama was done with the primaries that I began to consider myself a democrat.
The experience of being in a war did a lot in itself to further my push to the left. Remarkably, combat made me a more understanding and living person. I adopted a very "live-and-let-live" attitude when it came to dealing with people who would rather see me dead. I came to understand that if our positions were swapped I'd be fighting just like they were. Most of the guys over there were suckered into believing that people like me were bad people and that they must fight me in a hope to protect their communities and their children. They were very illiterate and learned everything they knew about the world from their local religious leaders. I found it increasingly hard to shoot people that I found myself identifying with.
tavernier
(12,392 posts)We can change our spots.
Thanks for sharing your story.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Have often wondered if FN knows or understands that if you do this, then others do that. They always seem so surprised that there are those of us in the world who do not agree with them. Interested in #3 post. That would mean FN has to be smart, hmmm. I will ponder the idea, smile.
JHB
(37,160 posts)Roger Ailes, that is. FOX News is his Nixon-era vision of GOP TV brought to fruition.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)It created the Monster Trump
(Lit major nitpick)
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)thank you.
Wait.
What's Mary Shelley doing ...
alive ...
in ...
my ...
houseeeeaaaarrrrarrrraggggggghhhhhh!
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)There's a scary thought
malthaussen
(17,202 posts)Only my degrees are in computers and history.
-- Mal
Orsino
(37,428 posts)They are like a modern Prometheus whose raw materials are money, raw sewage and lies.
malthaussen
(17,202 posts)Although I know of no myth that attributes malice to Epimetheus's blundering.
-- Mal
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Indeed. If only amnesia were not so viral among the 78% of Americans who can not remember their most basic history lesson of "What nation did America declare Independence from in 1776?"
I think most folks know, they were all surely taught, or seen a movie, but they just can not remember.
Amnesia, not learning the lessons of history, can lead to all kinds of repeated bad consequences, but the media long ago abandoned its's constitutional duty to make Americans remember.
I would have roped off the media, too.
blm
(113,064 posts)Seriously - the cognitive dissonance runs deep in dumbed down GOP voters.
FOX actually came AFTER RevMoon's Washington Times propaganda - in fact, FOX was the vehicle used to BROADCAST the propaganda that was already established by the Korean cult leader, including Moonie Times, Human Events, Insight, Front Page, etc
..
packman
(16,296 posts)For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up.
Like to think that the "strangers" are the minorities, the poor, the women, the gays and the progressives that the conservative movement has alienated over the last few decades.
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)Another the GOP is in trouble fantasy ...
I know countless "conservatives" or republicans, countless non-liberals and progressives, and Trump's stupidity won't change their view on things on bit.
What they WANT to believe trumps reality, facts or the massive disconnect between these things and the vitriol spewed by the clown car running for POTUS, in congress, conservative media complex.
They are right, so flat lies, being wrong, complete lunacy means nothing to them.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)longer than Paul Rubens in the Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie.
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)Nm
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)malthaussen
(17,202 posts)Perhaps Mr Illing meant "Frankenstein's Monster?"
-- Mal
Skittles
(153,169 posts)yup
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Rightwing media has created a griftersphere, where folks who know damn well that they have no chance go ahead and run, knowing it will get them TV time and help them amass books sales and SuperPAC donations to live off of.
Hell, they don't even need to actually run. Look at Palin and her PAC-paid vacation bus.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,181 posts)Tastier than Gamera! And with a bigger mouth than T-Rex!
Buns_of_Fire
(17,181 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,025 posts)Contrary1
(12,629 posts)Ms. Palin...are you free?
corkhead
(6,119 posts)to the Frankenstein monster.
Violent as he was, at least he showed a bit of humanity. I have not seen that demonstrated by of the current passengers of the clown car, in fact displaying any humanity is a good way to get yourself thrown out of the Republicon party.