Memphis begins effort to remove Nathan Bedford Forrest monument and grave

[dixiegrrrrl]

the City of Memphis is considering removing from a public park not just a monument dedicated to Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, but also his grave.

Snip:
Forrest was known for his tactics and leadership as a cavalry leader, and for his horsemanship. He surrendered his forces May 9, 1865, in Gainesville, Ala., on the banks of the Tombigbee River. He had some association with the early Ku Klux Klan.

Many municipalities are considering removing Confederate monuments in the wake of the Charleston race-based attack.
Birmingham Al. is among them.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/07/memphis_begins_effort_to_remov.html#incart_river

[HFRN]

1. all members of all causes should stop at dis-internment of the dead

for the simple reason that it discredits a cause, if decency isn't enough

[atreides1]

3. But he should be buried with other veterans.

Since the US Congress officially recognized Confederate veterans, Forrest should be buried in a Veterans cemetery, with other veterans of the United States both Union and Confederate!

[HFRN]

5. no - leave the dead where they are

you have to think of the precedent here

once it becomes acceptable, where does it end?

[Recursion]

13. He was moved once before in 1904

Though I agree there is a kind of creepy feel to this idea.

[jschurchin]

2. Nathan Bedford Forrest

was a Brilliant battlefield General. Actually his maneuvers were taught at West Point at one time. I'm sure some of you have heard of West Point. However, we really need to eliminate ALL REFERENCE of the confederacy. If we don't discuss it, it never happened.

[dixiegrrrrl]

6. I am hoping "eliminate ALL REFERENCE of the confederacy." is sarcasm. Censorship=slippery slope.

Texas has a similar idea:

Jim Crow and the Ku Klux Klan don’t even merit mention in conservative Texans’ new version of American history
New Texas history textbooks soft-pedal the cause of the Civil War: “It’s about states’ rights”

Millions of Texas schoolchildren will be learning about American history via a social studies textbook that locates the cause of the Civil War in Northern aggression against Southern states’ rights and never mentions the Ku Klux Klan or Jim Crow, the Washington Post’s Emma Brown reports.

Texas does not have the best track record when it comes to procuring textbooks free from overt political content. In 2013, the Texas state textbook review panel urged the Board of Education to reject any biology textbook that didn’t include a robust rebuttal of Darwinism. As one member noted, “I feel very firmly that creation science based on Biblical principles should be incorporated into every biology book that is up for adoption.”

In 2014, the State Board of Education considered adopting a Pearson history textbook that misrepresented the religious views of the Founders, claiming that “Moses helped establish a legal system, including the Ten Commandments, to govern his people. Similarly, the founders of the United States wrote the Constitution and established a system of laws to govern Americans. They were also part of a tradition that was familiar with the Ten Commandments as a guide for moral behavior.”

When the standards that produced these textbooks were designed in 2010, the Republican board members who pushed for them were unambiguous as to their plan to remove what they believed to be “liberal bias” in the existing standards. Cynthia Dunbar, for example, said that country was always intended to be “a Christian land governed by a Christian people”

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/06/new_texas_history_textbooks_soft_pedal_the_cause_of_the_civil_war_its_about_states_rights/

[LanternWaste]

7. Conflating "the celebration and deification of" with "all reference to" is the flaw in your premise

Conflating "the celebration and deification of" with "all reference to" is the fatal flaw in your little premise.

[Recursion]

10. Meh. Same problem Stuart had: publicity over scouting

Johnston was largely blind in Tennessee because Forrest still had his head in Kentucky. For my money the only non-overrated CW generals were Grant and Longstreet.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

4. Good for them. Now let's see the TV folks stop playing

Forrest Gump.

(ok, ok he's only named for Nathan Forrest, but that movie just irritates the heck out of me.)

[corkhead]

8. I can see it now...

[Recursion]

9. Disinterring is a bridge too far for me

Or do they just want to remove the marker? Even that I'm iffy on; historical markers we no longer like are still important to keep.

[dixiegrrrrl]

15. The article tells what they want to do re: body. n/t

[LeftinOH]

11. This is taking it too far. Monuments and graves

should be left alone. Removing a flag from government buildings is one thing.. but erasing history is a bad idea.

[pansypoo53219]

12. WOW! that white idiot had no idea . that HIS side would lose bad.

[DrBulldog]

14. It's about time the South grows up.

For the past 30 years since Reagan, the only adults in the American room have been the Northeast and the Far West.

[Sherman A1]

16. Painting

With a rather broad brush there.......