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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 01:54 PM Jul 2015

The plague of angry white men: How racism, gun culture & toxic masculinity are poisoning America

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/07/the_plague_of_angry_white_men_how_racism_gun_culture_toxic_masculinity_are_poisoning_america_in_tandem/

Dylann Roof was not silent before he murdered nine black people in their church, shooting and reloading multiple times, destroying their bodies with his white rage. He did not shout obscure or difficult to translate Latin phrases. Dylann Roof was not a blank slate or deep and nebulous well who left no written justification or explanation for his evil deeds. White racial terrorist Dylann Roof told his African-American victims why he was going to kill them. As though it was a type of forced civic duty and obligation, Roof said to his victims: “I have to do it.” He then shared his grievances: “You rape our women and you’re taking over our country and you have to go.” Then he let off a fusillade of bullets.

A superficial reading would suggest that the “our” is simple to decipher: Roof is channeling his white nationalist understanding of “America” as a country synonymous with and exclusively for “white” people. This is the logic of the phrase that “America is a white man’s country.” The “our” also signifies the control and possession of white women’s bodies and personhood by white men.

The idea of black men raping white women is a centuries-old white American fantasy: It is the justification for the lynching tree, where thousands of innocent black men were made into “strange fruit.” The lynching tree also reinforces a cultural lie, that white women are the most desired among all others, and tries to conceal how many white women from both before the founding of the United States, through to the Age of Obama, willingly have had relationships with black men, a perfectly banal observation that nonetheless enrages white supremacists.

Nationalist and politically chauvinistic ideologies tend toward patriarchy and sexism. White nationalism is no exception. As such, Dylann Roof’s white racial terrorism is an act of violence, and one that is grounded in a particular understanding of gender: “Male” or “female” are designations of human, sexual, biological difference. “Masculine” and “feminine,” however, are social constructs that are not fixed, which change over time, and in response to particular arrangements of social and political power. Here, gender is a type of performance (in its most binary and simple form) as a given person acts “male” or “female.” And toxic masculinity is a performance that emphasizes violence, control over others, sexual aggression and a lack of emotion and vulnerability. Dylann Roof—with the guns, violence, resentment, right-wing politics and racism—is the extreme embodiment of toxic white masculinity.
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The plague of angry white men: How racism, gun culture & toxic masculinity are poisoning America (Original Post) KamaAina Jul 2015 OP
Kama, I wish I knew you in real life, you provide me with so much info and links and randys1 Jul 2015 #1
Mahalo (thank you). I get most of this stuff off my Facebook feed. KamaAina Jul 2015 #2
You are a very good curator, KamaAina! calimary Jul 2015 #21
I have a very good friends list. KamaAina Jul 2015 #22
A lot of deep truth there, I think. nt hifiguy Jul 2015 #3
K&R Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #4
Except it is difficult to see how violence equates to "lack of emotion" malthaussen Jul 2015 #5
"And how does one explain the lynching of black women in this context? " Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #12
Well, that might fit into the context of "toxic masculinity," malthaussen Jul 2015 #17
Many of the ideas of white supremacy movement are steeped in toxic masculinity Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #20
Black men "raping white women"... zentrum Jul 2015 #6
America land of meat puppets and muscle heads olddots Jul 2015 #7
It's not so much lack of emotion as lack of empathy. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #8
"toxic white masculinity" i would add one word... 63splitwindow Jul 2015 #9
Toxic white masculinity insert "violent". gordianot Jul 2015 #15
Cudos libodem Jul 2015 #10
The twin scandals of the church shooting are that no one is trying to go after hate groups and craigmatic Jul 2015 #11
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2015 #16
K & R Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #13
circumscribed signs of imminent defeat seveneyes Jul 2015 #14
Apparently demographic angst lead to surge of white male libertarianism. Tear down all protections. Hortensis Jul 2015 #18
Excellent article---read the entire thing if you have the time. (nt) Paladin Jul 2015 #19
Lowering the TMI index would be a good place to start. Initech Jul 2015 #23

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. Kama, I wish I knew you in real life, you provide me with so much info and links and
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 01:57 PM
Jul 2015

stories and you remind me that I am not alone, that liberals like myself do exist

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
2. Mahalo (thank you). I get most of this stuff off my Facebook feed.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 01:59 PM
Jul 2015

I serve as a sort of aggregator.

Needless to say, a supermajority of my FB friends are fellow lefties.

malthaussen

(17,202 posts)
5. Except it is difficult to see how violence equates to "lack of emotion"
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 02:27 PM
Jul 2015

Or vulnerability, if it comes to it, because usually one resorts to violence because he is afraid, which would seem to indicate vulnerability.

And how does one explain the lynching of black women in this context?

Finally, aside from other queries, what would constitute "toxic femininity" under this rationale?

I think rather than tagging the condition with labels like "masculine" and "feminine," one should simply reduce the problem to that the definition of "strength" is taken to be "the ability to impose one's will on another" and proceed from there.

-- Mal

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
12. "And how does one explain the lynching of black women in this context? "
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 04:51 PM
Jul 2015

Perhaps this is an act of "hatred of the mother, the woman". Black women often raised the white children. In some respects they would have held a position of authority over the children. This could cause a great deal of resentment toward her from the biological mother and father. And a sense of inadequacy on the parents part, that they are not capable of raising their own children.

Sexual advances refused, or rape/murder also may have a strong case for explanation.



malthaussen

(17,202 posts)
17. Well, that might fit into the context of "toxic masculinity,"
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 08:53 AM
Jul 2015

... but it seems the idea being put forth here is that the violence is a direct retort to a perceived attack on "masculinity," and parenthood is not usually listed among the "masculine" virtues. OTOH, a strong man is supposed to be an iron-fisted father, so there could be something there.

The assessment itself I have no quarrel with, just not completely convinced it fits into the context, which is another reason why I don't find the model/profile satisfactory as stated.

-- Mal

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
20. Many of the ideas of white supremacy movement are steeped in toxic masculinity
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 07:55 PM
Jul 2015

I agree with your idea of them being faced with (afraid of) their own vulnerability. Being faced with one's own vulnerability can cause overwhelming fear. And that fear is the core of toxic masculinity.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
6. Black men "raping white women"...
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 04:10 PM
Jul 2015

…was the number one item in the ideology deliberately constructed by rich, white plantation owners on the eve of the Civil War.

It was a way to scare and galvanize the poor white yeomen famers of the South who didn't own slaves, (didn't own them because they were too poor). There were some moments when it seemed slaves might unite with the poor white farmers to resist the oppression of the rich white guys—but the ideology assured the secessionists of having an army to fight the war with while also not having to worry about rebellion at home as they faced the North.

This lie and the purposely constructed ideology it comes from is partly what makes American slavery different from slavery in most other parts of the world in history.

That's what's in the confederate flag.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
7. America land of meat puppets and muscle heads
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 04:12 PM
Jul 2015

Anti science , education and anti progress .Things sure have changed in 50 years .

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
8. It's not so much lack of emotion as lack of empathy.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 04:12 PM
Jul 2015

Dylan Roof had plenty of one type of emotion: anger.

But he could not empathize with his fellow human beings unless they were just like him.

I also think empathy is the key difference between liberals and Conservatives.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
9. "toxic white masculinity" i would add one word...
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 04:27 PM
Jul 2015

toxic, white FALSE masculinity. Real men do not suffer from the affliction described. There is an old saying that goes something like, "A man stands no taller than when he stoops down to help a child (or another) (or the less fortunate)." Real men understand this and do so without even thinking about it.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
15. Toxic white masculinity insert "violent".
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 07:18 PM
Jul 2015

Inflated egos gone off the rails wth violence it is usually abandoned when there a chance

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
11. The twin scandals of the church shooting are that no one is trying to go after hate groups and
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 04:47 PM
Jul 2015

gun control is still off the table. Also you still can't cite the white women crying rape and getting black men lynched and not see some parallel to how the media is treating Cosby. Even if he did do it nobody is doing background research on all the accusers to separate the real victims from people who are just trying to cash in.

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