What say you, re today's computer "glitches"?

[NightWatcher]

Hackers, state sponsored actors, a squirrel nibbling on wires somewhere or what do you think?

Do you believe that it is coincidence that several systems have whoopsies on the same day?

Don't send me to CT Hell, this is relevant today.

[Sienna86]

1. I don't believe in coincidences

We'll have to see what come out about these "glitches".

[qazplm]

10. why not?

Statistics show us that coincidences happen a lot more than we think and are a lot less special or unusual then we think.

Get 23 people in a room and statistics says there's a 50/50 chance that two of them share a birthday.

I share a birthday with someone in my office, and there are only about 15 people who work there.

coincidence? Yes.

[MineralMan]

3. Stuff does happen to computer systems.

We don't know about this one, but the statement said it was just a technical problem. Those happen, too.

[hobbit709]

5. Once may be a coincidence. Two or more-deliberate.

[MineralMan]

7. Two? There were hundreds of computer system crashes,

just in the last hour. Not all of them make the news. Unless two are demonstrably connected, I wouldn't link them. If you're talking about the airline crash and trying to link it to the NYSE crash, the two things are very unlikely to be related in any way.

Now, if two major stock market systems crashed at the same time, there might be a link. But I don't see any link here. Just a crash of some kind.

That does not mean there was not an attack, but I don't know of one, and nobody has reported one. I don't do speculation.

[The Stranger]

4. We need the computer people on this board to come up with some theories.

The fact that this shit is going down and there are only three responses to this thread is also freaking me out.

[regnaD kciN]

8. Haven't you noticed that DU is ALSO going down?

It's crashed on me twice in the past couple of hours.

[qazplm]

12. my web browser has been shaky today

and you know my satellite went out a couple of days ago during a light rain.

It's gettin crazy!

[Glassunion]

13. This computer person feels that it is what they say it is.

Like was mentioned up thread, there are thousands of computer "glitches" or "crashes" every day in the US. Probably in the 10's of thousands. They just don't make the news.

We had a major server go down today. It just so happens to be a critical financial system. One could state that it's related to the crashes/glitches at the airlines or the stock market. OMGZ! HAKERZ!

But it wasn't.

In all honesty, it was a simple security patch that caused an issue with a driver on the system, and it would no longer startup. So we rebuilt the system. Took about 6 hours.

No need to feel freaked out. They are simply machines. Machines do break down from time to time. Most IT departments extensive plans for the occasion.

[Ed Suspicious]

26. One problem is that IT staff is often viewed as a bit of a necessary evil and an expense that

the business units would love to do without. That and often times database administers and applications developers are thought of as "IT" and many times that means rather than improving and creating systems out of code, these professionals are relegated to shagging broken printers and resetting erp and email passwords.

[Glassunion]

27. Thankfully not where I work.

We have a separate help desk outside of the department.

[Ed Suspicious]

28. We used to until we were bought out by a capital firm who wanted to operate in a "Lean" way.

Now they have one guy to support two custom ERP systems that have grown in each their own direction over the past 35 years for two manufacturing plants all the while he shags printers and answers help desk tickets. He's the applications developer supporting AS/400 system. I was helping him out as a temp, but there was no way he could make it all work. They went from 10 applications people to 1. He just left a couple months ago because it was simply impossible to jump as high as the company demanded.

[Glassunion]

29. Wow.

The company makes a difference. When I started working too many hours (I'm salaried), they hired two new employees to work with me and made me a supervisor. My department has grown from 5 (MIS) to 19 (IT) people in about 15 years.

[regnaD kciN]

6. Illuminati!!!

[LanternWaste]

9. I'd want a few base lines before jumping to a conclusion

I'd want a few base lines before jumping to a conclusion-- what is the average number of systems going down on any given day being one of the more relevant.

0? 3? 300? 3000?

[Glassunion]

14. In the US?

Probably a lot more than that.

[LanternWaste]

15. If so, then I'm going with three unrelated incidents, regardless of individual cause.

If so, then I'm going with three unrelated incidents, regardless of whether each particular cause was accidental, user-error or malicious (or any combination of the three).

[Rex]

11. Illuminate, but what is more important is why now.

What just happened to cause a global attack like this? Could this finally be the NWO, Illuminate, Freemason showdown Bob's Rules of Order foretold?

[GoCubsGo]

16. Well, if it wasn't for the fact that United has been dealing with computer issues for eons...

...I might think there was something more to it. This is the second episode for them in 2 months. They've been having computer problems ever since they merged with Continental Airlines. I think it's just a coincidence this time. But, it's just a matter of time before we see another such episode with a more nefarious cause.

[randome]

17. WHO'S TRYING TO DISTRACT US FROM WHAT? I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO TURN!

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]

[olddots]

18. it may be net neurology

[Agnosticsherbet]

19. I do not support the Squirrel theory

I keep an mind with the other possibilities.

[davidpdx]

34. What about seeing squirrels?

I have a friend who says she sees them often. I have a deep suspicion that they aren't real.

[Agnosticsherbet]

35. Squirrels are rats in drag, hence their other name "fancy rats."

Though some are also Seagulls disguisd as rats that are disguised as Squirrels, otherwise known as rats with wings.

[underahedgerow]

20. I'm thinking China in an attempt to do something about their own market crash....

Just saying.....

[nashville_brook]

25. watch China attack US in real time

http://map.norsecorp.com

[seveneyes]

21. End of change freezes, mid week first of month code upgrades

Not uncommon at all.

[bigwillq]

22. I blame the polygamists!

[randome]

23. It's Wednesday. Or...is it?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]

[Glassunion]

30. That's what "they" want you to think.

[tjwash]

24. United Airlines computers were always crashing at the busiest times.

Even before USeless Air bought them out.

Coincidentally, they are also one the biggest outsourcers of IT infrastructure support, and, also coincidentally lobbied tooth and nail to increase the number of H1B's in the US so that they could lay off a huge chunk of their domestic IT personnel.

They don't give a shit - it's saving them a ton of money, and people will keep going back to them regardless of how much they suck.

[jeff47]

31. Computer geek. I even worked as a "hacker"

They're unrelated. There's nothing linking them other than the date.

Take down the NYSE and NASDAQ? Then there may be something there. Take down United and Delta? Then there may be something there. Though even in those scenarios it's probably coincidence. You'd need to get more similar systems going down to make it look coordinated.

But the NYSE and United don't have anything in common.

There's several thousands "critical" systems that crash around the world every day. Today, it happened to a few places famous enough to get media coverage.

[Glassunion]

32. I knew that Y2K bug would get us!!!

I told you so!!!!!!!1!!!1!!

[davidpdx]

33. I hate United Airlines and will never fly with them again

They have lousy service. I feel bad for those who missed their flight, but not the airline.