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Facebook Post by economist Robert Reich:When the first debt deal was struck in 2001, Greece owed about 600 million euros ($793 million) more than the 2.8 billion euros it had borrowed. Goldman then cooked up an off-the-books derivative for Greece that disguised the shortfall but increased the governments losses to 5.1 billion euros. In 2005, the deal was restructured and the 5.1 billion euro debt was locked in. After that, Goldman and the rest of Wall Street pulled the global economy to its knees whacking Greece even harder.
Undoubtedly, Greece suffers from years of corruption and tax avoidance by its wealthy. But Goldman Sachs isn't exactly innocent. It padded its profits by catastrophically leveraging up the global economy with secret, off-balance-sheet debt deals. Did any of its executives ever go to jail? Of course not. They all got fat bonuses and promotions. Blankfein, now CEO, raked in $24 million in 2014 alone. Meanwhile, the people of Greece struggle to buy medicine and food.
Doesn't seem right, does it?
https://www.facebook.com/RBReich?fref=ts
peacebird
(14,195 posts)The whole IMF is a vampire squid...... Take apart all of these too big to fail monsters and re-i pose Glass Steagal.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)pushed a lot of this most recent mess because they want to force more QE from EU. Apparently with another QE, they'll make, or rather, steal another bundle.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)think
(11,641 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)think
(11,641 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)but what he leaves out is that the Greek government
agreed to this. For years the conservative Governments
knew that the country lived beyond its means and did
not do anything to change it.
The problem goes far beyond Greece, although that
country's disastrous situation now brings it to the
attention of everyone involved.
You cannot have a floating common currency between
sovereign countries unless you insist first on common
laws. Brussel wanted to look into the budgets of Greece,
and the Greeks claimed sovereignty. As far as I recall
other countries had made the same claim successfully.
Thus Brussel caved. The dream of a European Federation
sounded great, but cannot be achieved by the Euro.
PSPS
(13,603 posts)That's the real nut of the problem. A common currency without a common political structure can't work.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)and adopt the common fiscal and legal framework to avoid them. The euro was the carrot to bring on the more integrated EU.
The lesson: never underestimate the human ability to kick the can.
think
(11,641 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 8, 2015, 07:49 PM - Edit history (1)
Still the MSM and even some here feel free to ignore the involvement of Goldman Sachs and the repercussions from their questionable actions which made the problems in Greece much worse.
When a major bank behaves in a manor that is ethically questionable their involvement should not be kept secret and protected from public knowledge.
JMO...
[Edited to state it was the former Greek government and it's members were at fault.}
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)for the Iraq war, along with everybody in congress who voted for it.
But are the American people to blame for being duped by W? Or for being in the minority who *weren't* duped by W and did whatever we could to stop it...and were abused, called unpatriotic, and even threatened and jailed for protesting it?
We are responsible for it as a whole, though and have to pay for it.
Just like the Troika, who suspected Greece's books were cooked, but let them in the EU anyway, for personal gain. Such as Germany's bad weapons deal that they refuse to cancel. They, too, share responsibility.
And then after '08 when Greece couldn't keep up with the payments (like a *lot* of countries) and were advised by the IMF that their plan would not work and would lead to unpayable loans while destroying the economy but refused to restructure the loans anyway.
But instead the Troika made 90% of the loans to bailout *private* bank losses and made the loans to *private* banks Greece's *public* responsibility. And made them try to pay the unpayable out of pension money.
think
(11,641 posts)That was sloppy on my part.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Somehow they always seem to escape the carnage they foist upon the masses.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)The United States did not have a common currency until the Currency Act of 1857. Spanish colonial Reales and other regional currencies ciruculated until well after our political union was established.
Sorry folks, as much as you may hate him...Nigel Farage is dead on accurate when it comes to Greece and the Eurozone.
Warpy
(111,277 posts)This, alone, even without all the bribes to right wing leaders by military contractors, should enable Greece to invoke "odious debt" and give those old boys the "haircut" they deserve, a scalping.
If you think Greece is the only beneficiary of their kind attentions, think again.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]
think
(11,641 posts)GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)The Greek government of the time was criminal.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Vampire Squid squeezed democracy out of its homeland to turn a buck off austerity economic trickle down ripoff crapola.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Greek-Depression-the-by-William-K-Black--Austerity_Austerity_Austerity_Bailout-141231-49.html
By Greg Palast
Reader Supported News, September 16, 2013
Joseph Stiglitz couldn't believe his ears. Here they were in the White House, with President Bill Clinton asking the chiefs of the US Treasury for guidance on the life and death of America's economy, when the Deputy Secretary of the Treasury Larry Summers turns to his boss, Secretary Robert Rubin, and says, "What would Goldman think of that?"
Huh?
Then, at another meeting, Summers said it again: What would Goldman think?
A shocked Stiglitz, then Chairman of the President's Council of Economic Advisors, told me he'd turned to Summers, and asked if Summers thought it appropriate to decide US economic policy based on "what Goldman thought." As opposed to say, the facts, or say, the needs of the American public, you know, all that stuff that we heard in Cabinet meetings on The West Wing.
Summers looked at Stiglitz like Stiglitz was some kind of naive fool who'd read too many civics books.
CONTINUED...
http://www.gregpalast.com/larry-summers-goldman-sacked/
The Greeks never knew what hit 'em.
think
(11,641 posts)Amazing how brazen they were and still are....
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Here's President Obama and his then-new nominee Secretary of Commerce, Penny Pritzker:
What's not mentioned could fill a book.
Not talked about at all in history class, from high school to most colleges.
Newspapers aren't cutting it anymore, either in content or readership.
Hate radio is too busy spewing to bother with the truth.
Tee Vee has no interest in telling the truth.
That leaves it up to Stiglitz, Palast and us, think.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Tatiana La Belle
(152 posts)Also never forget how many of our politicians--and presidential candidates--have Goldman ties.