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struggle4progress

(118,332 posts)
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:32 AM Jul 2015

Group Rallies In OKC Metro In Support Of Confederate Flag

Posted: Jul 11, 2015 10:14 PM EDT
Updated: Jul 12, 2015 8:42 AM EDT
BY CHRISTY LEWIS
... A group of Oklahomans spent the day parading through the metro ... “This is us trying to say that we have our rights. We have a right to fly our flag and we’re not taking it down” ... But the backlash wasn't far behind ... Many were extremely disappointed in what went on ... “It’s a lot of racial hatred. People can say that it’s supporting the history of the South or part of southern heritage, but to me, the confederate flag has always stood for nothing but hate and always will be” ...
http://www.news9.com/story/29527491/group-rallies-in-okc-metro-in-support-of-confederate-flag

BTW: Oklahoma finally became a state in 1907 -- more than 40 years after the Civil War ended --

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Group Rallies In OKC Metro In Support Of Confederate Flag (Original Post) struggle4progress Jul 2015 OP
SEE - that RIGHT THERE! JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #1
"They had nothing to do with the civil war" NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #2
They were NOT a state JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #3
I used to be a history teacher. I like facts. NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #4
I do too JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #6
Okay. I'm well aware of when Oklahoma became a state. Have a pleasant day. NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #7
Now you just hush teach and let them have their say CBGLuthier Jul 2015 #8
Actually, John Ross reluctantly supported the Confederacy, Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #12
Southern Heritage all because a deranged kid went mass murderer. gordianot Jul 2015 #5
Thank you JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #9
I see a few DUers were in attendance tenderfoot Jul 2015 #10
Really? Can you name three? NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #11
Did I upset your heritage? tenderfoot Jul 2015 #13
My heritage is Irish and Cherokee by way of Kansas. NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #14
LOL randys1 Jul 2015 #15

JustAnotherGen

(31,874 posts)
1. SEE - that RIGHT THERE!
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:33 AM
Jul 2015

They had nothing to do with the civil war -

There's NO reason to display that 'heritage' - it's not yours.

They are bigots. That's what that flag means to them - especially in light of the riots they had out there . . .

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
2. "They had nothing to do with the civil war"
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:57 AM
Jul 2015

Not entirely true. The last Confederate general to surrender was Cherokee Stand Waite, from what was then called Indian Territory. There were several volunteer units from Indian Territory and Oklahoma Territory, and much of the conflict here stemmed from tribal conflicts that were separate from the larger national issues. John Ross, the Cherokee chief, was pro-union and was actually captured by pro-Confederate forces at one time.

JustAnotherGen

(31,874 posts)
3. They were NOT a state
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:41 AM
Jul 2015

There is no 'states' rights. There were individuals involved -

This was not their 'heritage' or 'fight'.



They were not a part of the confederacy.
When you make excuses for people it implies you agree. It makes their behavior permissible.

What you permit - is what you promote.



JustAnotherGen

(31,874 posts)
6. I do too
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:49 AM
Jul 2015

What year did they become a state?

I'm in Telecom - I like 'linear thinking' .


Point of Origination to Point of Termination. It's simple.

What was the point of Origination?

1863? I missed that in my history class. Then again - my 10th grade history teacher told me 'All slaves enjoyed being slaves'. . . Mr. Bates. I got him fired for that.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
8. Now you just hush teach and let them have their say
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:50 AM
Jul 2015

Just kidding fortunately most modern Oklahomans reject this bullshit. I know the three I raised are not racists.

And yeah, you are right even if it offends their literal minds.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
12. Actually, John Ross reluctantly supported the Confederacy,
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 11:23 AM
Jul 2015

in large part because the country represented by the Stars and Stripes had forced his people to march hundreds of miles to Indian Territory.

gordianot

(15,243 posts)
5. Southern Heritage all because a deranged kid went mass murderer.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:46 AM
Jul 2015

The people using the Southern Heritage line today are supporting a racist murderer and racist murder in practice. Two months ago not as much even though I encountered people who had Southern Heritage idea regularly in my hobby of visiting and photographing battlefields. The racist thread was there but was suppressed not any more it is out in the open.

JustAnotherGen

(31,874 posts)
9. Thank you
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 11:01 AM
Jul 2015

I was starting to think I had entered an alternative universe where people could make any excuse they wanted to in order to support a bunch of bigots. Good grief!

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