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FSogol

(45,485 posts)
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:08 AM Jul 2015

Thanks Obama. And Biden and Kerry. Nice work on the Iran deal.

Unlike GOP desires, you're kept us out of another unwinnable war, improved international relations, and lowered the cost of crude oil.

Keep up the good work.

Not sure why this isn't a bigger story/issue on DU?

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Thanks Obama. And Biden and Kerry. Nice work on the Iran deal. (Original Post) FSogol Jul 2015 OP
Re: FSogol serbbral Jul 2015 #1
I'm backing Bernie but Hillary deserves thanks also Tom Rinaldo Jul 2015 #2
Agree. n/t FSogol Jul 2015 #4
I appreciate that. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #6
Not to mention, she is well positioned for an even bigger role than that - she can help rally karynnj Jul 2015 #10
So her being viewed as more of a hawk helps ? JI7 Jul 2015 #16
hadn't thought of that, but it's a really good point karynnj Jul 2015 #18
This is a huge story!!! Obama = Winning!!! Pisces Jul 2015 #3
It's being discussed a LOT on DU. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #5
Only 2 threads on the first page of latest threads. n/t FSogol Jul 2015 #7
I've been posting/reading on GD. Hardly ever look at LBN. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #8
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2015 #9
However, Menendez says ...................... serbbral Jul 2015 #11
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #12
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2015 #13
Yes. A HUGE thank you... YvonneCa Jul 2015 #14
Includes billions of dollars in aid? Culver Shuttle Jul 2015 #15
I prefer aid to missiles, death, and destruction. Aid is much cheaper in the long run. n/t FSogol Jul 2015 #17
Mahalo FSogol! Cha Jul 2015 #19

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
2. I'm backing Bernie but Hillary deserves thanks also
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:18 AM
Jul 2015

The diplomatic initiates that led to this breakthrough began when she was Secretary of State, that's when all of this got on track to begin with. If we are thanking Biden, for example, then Clinton deserves some praise also.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
10. Not to mention, she is well positioned for an even bigger role than that - she can help rally
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:56 PM
Jul 2015

some Democrats to vote against the Republican disapproval. (She was there when it began, but only at the very very beginning - and it was Obama's decision to pursue it. (In fact, SFRC chair Kerry was used to investigate the possibility of using Oman as the back channel in 2012. Soon afterward, HRC left and Kerry was SoS. ) However, she, like Biden, was likely involved in the early discussions -- and one of the two people who was involved in the early 2003 secret negotiation was Jake Sullivan, a close HRC aide, then working for Biden. He now advises her campaign. (See - that pulls in both HRC and Biden)

Still, other than Obama, who risked a lot leading on this, the two cabinet people I give by FAR the most credit to are John Kerry and Earnest Moniz, who formed a great team (they've been friends for decades) in working through all these issues - each bringing their incredible intelligence, creativity, patience and determination to this. (All you have to think of are the number of articles that questioned the amount of time that Kerry put into the negotiations personally. Some almost made that work ethic and REALLY exhausting diplomacy rather than giving up seem wrong.)

JI7

(89,249 posts)
16. So her being viewed as more of a hawk helps ?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 01:57 PM
Jul 2015

Although I'm not sure how much credibility republicans have since they are always claiming disaster with anything obsma does. And we saw with health care that death panels and all the other fear mongering was just that and nothing more.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
18. hadn't thought of that, but it's a really good point
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 03:36 PM
Jul 2015

The fact that she is among the more hawkish Democrats, if she supports this convincingly, there may be some who might be convinced by her. I had thought more just because she is respected. In additiob, as the very likely next nominee and President, some may want to be in her good graces.

In the clip I saw, she was positive, but spoke of some concerns and failed - in spite of being asked repeatedly - the simple question of whether she supports it. She - and other former SoS were briefed, but in fairness, she probably has not had the time to read it.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
8. I've been posting/reading on GD. Hardly ever look at LBN.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:37 AM
Jul 2015

But that is strange there aren't more posts there.

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
14. Yes. A HUGE thank you...
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 01:54 PM
Jul 2015

...to all three, especially John Kerry, for not giving up on this goal...even when the hill to climb became steeper in November, 2004.
Thank you, Mr. Secretary, for your perseverance. When they are old enough to understand, my grandchildren will thank you, too! 🇺🇸

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