Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 01:41 PM Jul 2015

Fox Pastor – “Jesus Wants Churches to Turn Over Undocumented Immigrants, Not Feed or Shelter Them”

http://www.ringoffireradio.com/2015/07/fox-pastor-jesus-wants-churches-to-turn-over-undocumented-immigrants-not-feed-or-shelter-them/

Robert Jeffress, megachurch pastor and Fox News contributor, said that churches that give asylum to illegal immigrants are following the Jesus of their imagination, not the Jesus of the Bible, during an interview on Fox & Friends.

“Look, a lot of these liberal churches that harbor illegal immigrants, who are criminals, say they are following the example of Jesus. The only problem is they are following the Jesus of their imagination rather than the Jesus of the Bible,” said Jeffress. “Jesus was not this wimpy little guy who walked around munching sunflower seeds and saying nice things to people.”

“The real Jesus of the Bible said, ‘Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s,’ that is, obey the government,” said Jeffress.

During the same interview, Dr. Richard Land, Southern Evangelical Seminary President, argued against Jeffress. “When people show up and they’re hungry, when they’re thirsty, when they need shelter, the cross of Christ says that this is a place where you are going to get a cup of cold water, where you are going to get some shelter, where you are going to get some hot food,” said Land. “And it’s not our job to be asking for green cards before we extend the mercy of Christ.”


12 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Fox Pastor – “Jesus Wants Churches to Turn Over Undocumented Immigrants, Not Feed or Shelter Them” (Original Post) KamaAina Jul 2015 OP
Jesus said to obey the government? BayouBengal07 Jul 2015 #1
" the Jesus of their imagination" misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #2
Sounds inhospitable to strangers Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #3
Republican Jesus hifiguy Jul 2015 #4
Your Jesus might have said that but mine did not. jwirr Jul 2015 #5
Pastor, as Frank Zappa once sang... edbermac Jul 2015 #6
I like the second guy a lot better... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #7
So much for that old Jesus "love thy neighbor" BS. Vinca Jul 2015 #8
hmmm struggle4progress Jul 2015 #9
Way to completely miss the point there, Bob. Initech Jul 2015 #10
Wait...WHAT??!! Johnyawl Jul 2015 #11
You're going to hell, Robert Jeffress. (nt) Paladin Jul 2015 #12

BayouBengal07

(1,486 posts)
1. Jesus said to obey the government?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 01:45 PM
Jul 2015

That kind of throws a wrench in the Tea Party vision of free-market Bible Belt Jesus, eh?

If that is the case, Hobby Lobby can start covering birth control, and florists can start decorating same sex marriage ceremonies, I guess.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
3. Sounds inhospitable to strangers
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 01:47 PM
Jul 2015

the last places that drew God's attention for their inhospitality was Sodom and Gomorrah.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
7. I like the second guy a lot better...
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 02:02 PM
Jul 2015

I'm hardly a fan of evangelicals, but some do get a few things right:

1 Corinthians 13:13-- "And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity." That's King James, the one the fundies believe in; curiously, most other translations use "love" instead of "charity".

I'm seeing the Sanctuary movement starting to come back as a backlash against the revival of anti-immigrant hysteria. The concept of Sanctuary is as ancient as Moses and the command to set up towns as sanctuaries. Even the medieval Roman church accepted Sanctuary as a fundamental Christian tenet.

Personally, I really can't accept these megachurches as Christians. Not in thought nor deed they aren't.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
9. hmmm
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 03:31 PM
Jul 2015
Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt - Exodus 22

When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God - Leviticus 19

And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt - Deuteronomy 10

Initech

(100,076 posts)
10. Way to completely miss the point there, Bob.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 03:40 PM
Jul 2015

If I remember Bible study, Jesus said that rich men will never enter the kingdom of heaven. He also said that he hated hypocrites. So why would Jesus contradict himself in the next verse? It would seem to me that of Jesus actually said that, he would have said it as sarcasm. Something that goes over the head of you supposed uber religious types.

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
11. Wait...WHAT??!!
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 04:51 PM
Jul 2015

“The real Jesus of the Bible said, ‘Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s,’ that is, obey the government,” said Jeffress.


So how about all you christians start obeying the government and quit trying to stop same sex marriage.
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Fox Pastor – “Jesus Wants...