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17 Deplorable Examples Of White Privilege (Original Post) randys1 Jul 2015 OP
15. If you benefit from white privilege, you’ll never be told to “get over slavery.” randys1 Jul 2015 #1
NAILED. IT. Number23 Jul 2015 #6
shush, you are not allowed to point this out or talk about it. I am a privileged white person randys1 Jul 2015 #7
Yes, and I am southern and none of my family ever owned slaves... CTyankee Jul 2015 #10
The wailing has been as hilarious as it has been expected. NOT ONE of the people talking about Number23 Jul 2015 #15
+1000. nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #17
^This^ malaise Jul 2015 #100
Brutal and true. nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #16
I don't believe that I would ever tell anybody to "get over it". R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #25
Fact AuntPatsy Jul 2015 #29
Nothing more need be said mcar Jul 2015 #88
a lot of Southern whites never got over losing slavery yurbud Jul 2015 #115
And a lot of non southern whites just cant get over their discomfort with randys1 Jul 2015 #117
PREACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #133
Why the fuck can't we rec posts? Glassunion Jul 2015 #149
LOL randys1 Jul 2015 #172
Not 100% true. PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #154
But we are told to "get over the Holocaust." Behind the Aegis Jul 2015 #165
Ummmmm..... about #1..... Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #2
RIght on que randys1 Jul 2015 #3
Holy shit Batman! The AverageDouche90-signal has been activated: Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #11
LOLOLOLOLOLOL randys1 Jul 2015 #13
Haha! Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #60
Oh my! JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #179
LOL! Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #218
"cue" (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #43
No, que, as in you have waited in line to make some of these remarks randys1 Jul 2015 #52
No, that would be "queue". Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #61
Lol! cwydro Jul 2015 #66
OMG the extent you guys will go to deny the fact of my OP.... randys1 Jul 2015 #71
No, we're just laughing that you tried to be clever, but cwydro Jul 2015 #76
distraction BS heaven05 Jul 2015 #94
I'm never surprised by this type in America heaven JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #183
Well, to be fair, you yourself acknowledged that #1 in the list is wrong. Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #78
No, I didnt do that at all, I said it needed a slight revision, I am mad at myself, I managed randys1 Jul 2015 #79
don't even respond heaven05 Jul 2015 #101
Bless your heart. n/t Aerows Jul 2015 #128
It's actually a pity. "Que" would come in very handy in Scrabble. Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #73
My mother refuses to let anyone use foreign words lol! cwydro Jul 2015 #81
You live with your mother? Or just visit her? JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #186
My mother is 89. I live at our family farm, but I visit her (and stay with her) cwydro Jul 2015 #189
still distraction BS heaven05 Jul 2015 #96
You're absolutely right. This is no time to be discussing Scrabble words that contain "q". Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #162
That's not how queue is spelled. cwydro Jul 2015 #62
you do know heaven05 Jul 2015 #97
"To BE expected", surely? (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #160
Start asking them silly questions! JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #191
When I was seven years old, I awoke to a cop pointing a gun at me FrodosPet Jul 2015 #120
Ummm... about intentionally confusing anecdotal evidence with the realities of the world. LanternWaste Jul 2015 #14
DOJ statistics tell a different story madville Jul 2015 #47
Of all 17 that is the one and only place I would change ONE word only, as you say randys1 Jul 2015 #55
"Internet troll jailed after mocking deaths of teenagers" Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #70
No #1 and 2# stand and heaven05 Jul 2015 #108
Well Randy already acknowledged that #1 is incorrect and requires a rewrite. (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #161
He can't see your life experience heaven05 JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #192
thank you heaven05 Jul 2015 #211
Careful Nye npk Jul 2015 #219
Although it is true....and didn't use any absolutes, like "never" AlbertCat Jul 2015 #110
Someone here has spent ALL DAY researching to disprove it...think about what that says randys1 Jul 2015 #112
Something was just made apparent to me on this thread randy JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #193
You should articulate what that is, maybe do a new thread about it. randys1 Jul 2015 #195
It's mostly about the company we keep JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #199
true heaven05 Jul 2015 #212
Never have "to worry" about it- not never happens.... bettyellen Jul 2015 #105
So poor white people don't ever have to worry about the police? madville Jul 2015 #155
Nope, scruffy white guys hanging out smoking pot have *nothing* to worry about from the cops. Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #163
OMG you're right. POC have no special issues with racist PDs. bettyellen Jul 2015 #170
My point is that all low income people have problems madville Jul 2015 #171
wow, you think everything is economic- even racial issues. What a fresh and startling perspective! bettyellen Jul 2015 #175
Do poor white people benefit from white privilege? madville Jul 2015 #229
I'm not poor JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #194
Not just poor people of color are targeted by police. gollygee Jul 2015 #224
I'm not disputing that, simply pointing out madville Jul 2015 #227
Poor white people are targeted for being poor, not for being white gollygee Jul 2015 #228
I agree with you and it should be more specific madville Jul 2015 #231
It does sound like that's the intent with the article gollygee Jul 2015 #233
feeling sensitive today, huh????? heaven05 Jul 2015 #92
Try being a Southerner and posting on DU. ileus Jul 2015 #109
<--- Knows the feeling n/t Aerows Jul 2015 #135
I like this one... Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #4
Yes, or randys1 Jul 2015 #5
18. White privilege means forever being forced to feel guilty for something you don't condone Leontius Jul 2015 #8
Yes, if your biggest problem is having to accept the role white people play in the randys1 Jul 2015 #9
Well...some whites may not own or condone white privilege Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #12
Excellent point about 911. Even I am still amazed at how bad it is here with white randys1 Jul 2015 #20
I don't deny it. If you think most people here aren't aware of it you're fucking clueless Leontius Jul 2015 #77
my, my heaven05 Jul 2015 #116
"and pretty soon they 'll stop." sufrommich Jul 2015 #131
The reason these threads exist.... CANDO Jul 2015 #215
If people have the ability to "force" you to feel guilt, you should try looking inward... LanternWaste Jul 2015 #18
Should have said "try to force". Leontius Jul 2015 #83
Nobody wants you to feel guilty about it. Iggo Jul 2015 #24
No that's all this shit of a thread is about trying to push guilt. Leontius Jul 2015 #86
feeling guilty huh? heaven05 Jul 2015 #118
I have nothing to feel guilty about for "white privilege" Leontius Jul 2015 #147
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TELLING YOU! Iggo Jul 2015 #150
Who the fuck is we? Leontius Jul 2015 #157
You see what you want to see, friend. Have a wonderful evening. Iggo Jul 2015 #164
I would not want to create guilt heaven05 Jul 2015 #153
I don't fear anything but I do feel sorry for you Leontius Jul 2015 #156
really? heaven05 Jul 2015 #158
OK this comes off as a huge right-wing (and I mean WAY right wing - like Tea Party) meme gollygee Jul 2015 #225
Every time. Iggo Jul 2015 #148
........ sufrommich Jul 2015 #36
ROFLMAO! Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #166
It has nothing to do with "forever being forced to feel guilty" mountain grammy Jul 2015 #46
Really? Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #69
Actually it means that one has privelege granted by their whtie skin that a neighbor of color jtuck004 Jul 2015 #104
Just a heads up artislife Jul 2015 #119
Well, I don't know about that Prism Jul 2015 #19
Gay appropriation? randys1 Jul 2015 #21
Mmhmm (n/t) Prism Jul 2015 #23
I wasnt clear what you meant, is all randys1 Jul 2015 #27
Note to Prism....Randy is easily provoked. nt clarice Jul 2015 #53
LOL, hey, you cant defend your comments, dont hide them with this kind of silliness randys1 Jul 2015 #56
Note to Prism.....see what I mean?.lol.nt clarice Jul 2015 #65
so are you heaven05 Jul 2015 #126
This message was self-deleted by its author Long Drive Jul 2015 #237
Not following you on the gay appropriation thing... Maedhros Jul 2015 #89
I grew up dirt poor AND white...where's MY privilege DAMMIT !!! I could use some about now. nt clarice Jul 2015 #22
You obviously don't get it philosslayer Jul 2015 #26
No, I think you are the obtuse one. nt clarice Jul 2015 #28
Lets contrast your situation philosslayer Jul 2015 #102
I hear you, but I believe that we are all masters of our circumstances. nt clarice Jul 2015 #107
But we are not masters of how we are perceived by others philosslayer Jul 2015 #125
This is an almost textbook example of white privilege. sufrommich Jul 2015 #137
You may believe it, but it actually isn't true. alarimer Jul 2015 #169
No, he obviously did NOT get it whathehell Jul 2015 #51
He? who's He? nt clarice Jul 2015 #54
I meant this for philoslayer whathehell Jul 2015 #59
My apologies. nt clarice Jul 2015 #63
No problem. n/t whathehell Jul 2015 #68
It's not played enough heaven05 Jul 2015 #129
What about Male Privilege, Hans? whathehell Jul 2015 #143
Hans???? Right. Typical....what about white male privilege? heaven05 Jul 2015 #146
LOL..Check your profile...It says "Real Name - Hans" whathehell Jul 2015 #151
well "dear" back atcha heaven05 Jul 2015 #152
Can't "back atcha me, dear whathehell Jul 2015 #159
we're not talking of other countries heaven05 Jul 2015 #168
Yes we are, because your wildly inaccurate statements compel us to talk about them. whathehell Jul 2015 #203
look at it this way "dear" heaven05 Jul 2015 #209
I thought you were 'done' with me, dear! whathehell Jul 2015 #220
He doesn't realize your last name is Solo and JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #200
RIght here at the OP, 17 examples, didnt you read the link? randys1 Jul 2015 #31
Of course I read the link, and please don't curse. It's unbecoming. nt clarice Jul 2015 #33
Nah, I have to curse, it makes me feel better when I am dealing with people who refuse randys1 Jul 2015 #34
My apologies, I read back over some of.... clarice Jul 2015 #35
Rile me up LOL oh lord...you cant get any funnier randys1 Jul 2015 #37
I for one am glad heaven05 Jul 2015 #132
No - I want her back JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #198
. Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #39
Which curse word bothered them the most? racism? god damn? randys1 Jul 2015 #41
I'm gonna go with the word... link... You filthy animal you!!! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #44
That's a GOOD one. looks like my husband. Handsome devil. nt clarice Jul 2015 #49
super hero huh heaven05 Jul 2015 #134
This message was self-deleted by its author Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #42
What about Male Privilege? whathehell Jul 2015 #64
Me too. tazkcmo Jul 2015 #40
I've gotten strange looks in a VARIETY of different neighborhoods. I know what you mean. nt clarice Jul 2015 #48
. Iggo Jul 2015 #82
BS heaven05 Jul 2015 #136
Hey - maybe she looks like a thief! JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #206
maybe or should I say I guess so..... heaven05 Jul 2015 #210
As a female, I can't walk home at 2:00 am whathehell Jul 2015 #84
??? tazkcmo Jul 2015 #85
Because whathehell Jul 2015 #87
So I'm responsible for that? tazkcmo Jul 2015 #93
Wow.. whathehell Jul 2015 #124
+1000 heaven05 Jul 2015 #139
about as responsible as I.am whathehell Jul 2015 #144
This plus 1000 JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #201
you have had it all your life heaven05 Jul 2015 #127
I'm sorry JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #196
You confuse me. In another thread you were wringing your hands... lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #208
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2015 #30
I'm more interested in ending institutional racism. Y'all have at it, though. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #32
We will get back to you when we are at that point where you can feel very randys1 Jul 2015 #38
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #50
You are now stalking me because you cant defend your comments and you randys1 Jul 2015 #57
I think it's time for you to stop now. We get it. You don't like Randy. bravenak Jul 2015 #138
Note to Comrade....am I right or what?. nt clarice Jul 2015 #67
GAH! Number #13 yuiyoshida Jul 2015 #45
it does kind of remind me of 'original sin', from my Catholic school days HFRN Jul 2015 #58
It's exactly like that. Bonx Jul 2015 #75
I will frankly admit that I'm a sinner... NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #167
Boy, isn't it great to be such brutal and and bloodthirsty oppressors? 951-Riverside Jul 2015 #72
But but just saying that makes me uncomfy, and whiny. dont you see randys1 Jul 2015 #74
And we revere those racist slaveholding monsters Washington and Jefferson. Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #80
you revere them heaven05 Jul 2015 #140
I'd really like to discuss the contents of the OP, but if I don't agree whole-heartedly... aikoaiko Jul 2015 #90
AFter thread after thread on DU of white people arguing about why they dont have randys1 Jul 2015 #91
So here is my issue with something like that Buzzfeed piece. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #142
It's even more white privilege to be even secretly judgmental about other races in America AZ Progressive Jul 2015 #95
great post heaven05 Jul 2015 #98
It got so bad they had to focus on me misspelling something randys1 Jul 2015 #99
they have NOTHING but that heaven05 Jul 2015 #103
It wouldnt matter to me if I didnt actually care about the horrible damage done to POC randys1 Jul 2015 #106
they don't matter heaven05 Jul 2015 #111
I usually do have fun with them but I also NEVER respond to a certain group, and I blew it randys1 Jul 2015 #113
Ohhh, trust me, I know heaven05 Jul 2015 #122
Mother forgive me for I may have sinned in your eyes seveneyes Jul 2015 #114
Just watched "The Long Walk Home" last night on Netflix passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #121
thanks for the tip, making note now randys1 Jul 2015 #123
A-FUCKING-MEN!! Don't stop speaking truth to power! Love it! n/t Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #130
18. White Privilege means you expect a cookie for looking at all 17 of these. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #141
No cookie whathehell Jul 2015 #145
I've walked from the BART station in Oakland to the Oaks Card room about 10-15 blocks away OnlinePoker Jul 2015 #173
Scottish Girl Told She is "Too Pale" To Board Plane Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #174
She's from Scotland JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #205
This post is racist nt. WDIM Jul 2015 #176
// randys1 Jul 2015 #177
no it isn't heaven05 Jul 2015 #214
Mmm, that's some good racism. Jester Messiah Jul 2015 #178
Yeah dividing people based on the color of their skin. WDIM Jul 2015 #180
Leave Guy Whitey Corngood out of this! JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #197
17 examples of white privilege is racist against whites? randys1 Jul 2015 #181
It is propaganda using stereo types to cause division and hate. WDIM Jul 2015 #182
It's one of the great ironies of the current age Jester Messiah Jul 2015 #184
this OP is one of heaven05 Jul 2015 #216
Fear, or weary dismissal? Jester Messiah Jul 2015 #239
stop listening? dismissal? heaven05 Jul 2015 #240
You could care less? Jester Messiah Jul 2015 #244
xxx randys1 Jul 2015 #185
Uncover your eyes and maybe you will see... WDIM Jul 2015 #187
There's no arguing with a bigot. [nt] Jester Messiah Jul 2015 #188
None are so blind as those who will not see. nt WDIM Jul 2015 #190
I'm going to let you try to understand the amazing irony of that statement. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #222
And likewise to you. Jester Messiah Jul 2015 #238
Sorry, having your delicate fee-fees hurt isn't bigotry. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #242
Hahaha, it would take a lot more than that. Jester Messiah Jul 2015 #243
I bathe in the tears of impotent little neckbeards. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #246
*snrk* You need to update your taunt-list. Jester Messiah Jul 2015 #247
every time I open my eyes heaven05 Jul 2015 #213
It's racist against whites because wwwaaaaaaaaahhhhhhbb NuclearDem Jul 2015 #223
Same assholes. Every thread. WilliamPitt Jul 2015 #202
Indeed. (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #204
Been explained to them a thousand times. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #221
This is why I dislike the term, it is more person of color disadvantage TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #207
per your last line heaven05 Jul 2015 #217
What is wrong? You think people should be beaten on, thrown in jail, and killed? TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #236
huh??? heaven05 Jul 2015 #241
Which privileged status is that? I'm thinking you don't know who you are even talking to. TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #245
Number 17 HassleCat Jul 2015 #226
Most of these are not true oberliner Jul 2015 #230
Maybe "never have to worry . . . due to your skin color" gollygee Jul 2015 #232
There are thoughtful, intelligent articles about White Privilege and then there is silly click bait oberliner Jul 2015 #234
OH look romanic Jul 2015 #235

randys1

(16,286 posts)
7. shush, you are not allowed to point this out or talk about it. I am a privileged white person
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:28 PM
Jul 2015

therefore I can.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
15. The wailing has been as hilarious as it has been expected. NOT ONE of the people talking about
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:36 PM
Jul 2015

race baiting, SJW's and trying to "explain" what's going on have been a surprise. NOT ONE. Because the brothers who wrote that Serena Williams piece really need a white person to "explain" exactly why what they're saying is so terribly bad and wrong and how it's counter productive.

Nothing brings out the psychos and butthurt on DU like a race thread. It just draws them out.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
117. And a lot of non southern whites just cant get over their discomfort with
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:41 PM
Jul 2015

having to play on an even field, for once.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
154. Not 100% true.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:39 PM
Jul 2015

I have been told to "get over it, move on, it is long gone, we need to live in the present" in regards to both slavery and the genocide of native Americans. I have been told that since I am Caucasian/non-native that I currently reap the benefits of both historical actions and that I act against my own self interest bringing these issues up at all. Though it is correct that I do benefit by this history, I will not stay quiet or accept those actions. Justice has not been served as of yet.

Behind the Aegis

(53,957 posts)
165. But we are told to "get over the Holocaust."
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:47 AM
Jul 2015

Even here, Jewish posters have been accused of "playing the Holocaust card" and "why should something that happened in another country be any of our concern?"

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
76. No, we're just laughing that you tried to be clever, but
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:43 PM
Jul 2015

were unable to spell a fairly common word.

I paid no attention to your OP.

Hey, did you know the cavers are busy talking about you? Someone here sent me an interesting link.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
94. distraction BS
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:09 PM
Jul 2015

as usual and expected by the usual suspects. Never a surprise and are always expected and laughed at by many.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
183. I'm never surprised by this type in America heaven
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:16 PM
Jul 2015

Michelle Obama could be kidnapped and eviscerated - and some folks would be upset because Obama didn't cry as much over some little girl in Chicago - as he did his own wife. They are just looking for reasons to look down noses and not rub shoulders.


It's what makes them moist!

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
78. Well, to be fair, you yourself acknowledged that #1 in the list is wrong.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:44 PM
Jul 2015

So even for those uninterested in the spelling lessons, this subthread has not been a complete waste of time.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
79. No, I didnt do that at all, I said it needed a slight revision, I am mad at myself, I managed
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:45 PM
Jul 2015

to not respond to you for months, and I did it almost by accident here, I meant not to respond to you but about you

I have a rule about not responding to certain people

BTW

anyone reading this thread can see why I would not want to waste responses to you or someone who would pick out one misspelling out of tens of thousands of words

When you go after spelling, you admit complete defeat, you do know that, right?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
101. don't even respond
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:24 PM
Jul 2015

it is a meaningless exercise that they get their jollies on. They like to bait, they just can't help it. To wrapped up in their white privilege to recognize it.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
73. It's actually a pity. "Que" would come in very handy in Scrabble.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:42 PM
Jul 2015

To add to the list of short words with a "q" such as "qi", "qua", and "suq".

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
81. My mother refuses to let anyone use foreign words lol!
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:46 PM
Jul 2015

Unless agreed upon at the outset. (Or until SHE wants to use one!)

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
189. My mother is 89. I live at our family farm, but I visit her (and stay with her)
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:27 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Wed Jul 15, 2015, 05:07 PM - Edit history (1)

almost daily at her home an hour away from the farm.

We lost my father not that long ago, and that's left a hole in her life.

Besides, I'm a worrywart. I treasure her.

Edited to ask: Is there some reason you need to know my living arrangements?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
162. You're absolutely right. This is no time to be discussing Scrabble words that contain "q".
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:06 PM
Jul 2015

My sincere apologies for drifting off-topic.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
97. you do know
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:13 PM
Jul 2015

that many people are laughing at you. Don't you. This distraction BS is so obviously false and asinine as to be ludicrous.To expected though.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
120. When I was seven years old, I awoke to a cop pointing a gun at me
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:44 PM
Jul 2015

Obviously, I'm still here. If I were not white, I probably would not be.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
14. Ummm... about intentionally confusing anecdotal evidence with the realities of the world.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:36 PM
Jul 2015

Ummm... about intentionally confusing anecdotal evidence with the realities of the world.

madville

(7,410 posts)
47. DOJ statistics tell a different story
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:13 PM
Jul 2015

"1. Because of white privilege, you’ll never have to worry about becoming the victim of law enforcement officers."


According to the DOJ statistics around 260 white people are killed by police every year, compared to around 130 black people.

I just take issue with the word "never". If they wanted to say black people were more likely, per capita, to be victims of the police, sure that's true. To say white people are never victims of the police is a ridiculous statement.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
55. Of all 17 that is the one and only place I would change ONE word only, as you say
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:22 PM
Jul 2015

all of the rest stand as does that one with that one change.


Not never, for sure.

Not anymore.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
108. No #1 and 2# stand and
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:31 PM
Jul 2015

will continue to stand as they have for generations, until some people wake up from their make believe world. Sad thing is, that dream world living means that they will probably stand for more decades. Truly sad, the depths to which people will go to hold on to their white privilege

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
192. He can't see your life experience heaven05
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:37 PM
Jul 2015

Seriously. He thinks he knows and as lived your life - but he hasn't. But it's funny watching him try to 'one up' you. Young whipper snapper!

You know what my grand daddy used to say? "Hush your mouth girl! Don't you know children ought 'be seen and not heard!"

That's when I would point out he had a very very dark face!

npk

(3,660 posts)
219. Careful Nye
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:59 PM
Jul 2015

If you keep doing this you are going to cause them to post another 600 of these ignorant threads.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
110. Although it is true....and didn't use any absolutes, like "never"
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jul 2015

Number 4 is also up for grabs.... as I have several times had people be amazed at my vocabulary.... because I have a southern drawl.

But we're all inbred hayseeds down here.... and we are all prejudice too.... doncha know.


Still, the list is accurate in that folks of color have to put up with these things in far greater numbers than the average white person. And that's all there is to it.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
195. You should articulate what that is, maybe do a new thread about it.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:46 PM
Jul 2015

I used to think that as a white person my comments about race were largely ignored by most other whites, and if that is true, maybe they need to hear it from the Black member of the community.



Maybe the thread needs to be an exception to all others here at DU, a hands off post or OP by you where agreed upon in advance it will not be alerted on or hidden.

Say whatever you want and anyone who tries to hide it can consider themselves certainly part of the problem, not the solution.

I wish there was a way Sid would agree to such a thing, just once.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
212. true
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:06 PM
Jul 2015

we need you...not that many of us it seems anymore, here. A few from all walks, but not many. Sad indeed.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
105. Never have "to worry" about it- not never happens....
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:28 PM
Jul 2015

As in, it's not a worry common to white people because of their skin color. And it's not.
But you knew that and argued some other point.
Give it a rest.

madville

(7,410 posts)
155. So poor white people don't ever have to worry about the police?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:54 PM
Jul 2015

BS, tell that to the homeless white people around here that are constantly harassed by the police. Or the homeless white guy shot and killed by the police here several years ago while trying to protect his tent and dog by the interstate. They worry about being victims of the police all day long, everyday.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
163. Nope, scruffy white guys hanging out smoking pot have *nothing* to worry about from the cops.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:09 PM
Jul 2015

Nothing.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
170. OMG you're right. POC have no special issues with racist PDs.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:18 AM
Jul 2015

Is that what you want to hear? It would
Seem so.

madville

(7,410 posts)
171. My point is that all low income people have problems
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:16 AM
Jul 2015

The police harass, assault, and kill people of all races, ethnicities, religions, genders, etc everyday. Poor people across all spectrums have to worry about being targeted by local law enforcement, so the word "never" is in #1 is wrong.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
175. wow, you think everything is economic- even racial issues. What a fresh and startling perspective!
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 01:45 PM
Jul 2015

madville

(7,410 posts)
229. Do poor white people benefit from white privilege?
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:28 PM
Jul 2015

I would say yes. If that's the case then to say "white privilege means never worrying about being a victim of law enforcement" is false since poor white people are victims of law enforcement on a regular basis.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
194. I'm not poor
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:43 PM
Jul 2015

My brother isn't - owns his own company.
My father wasn't - now dead.
My Uncle Otis isn't.
My nephews aren't.

But they are all or were black.

So a rich law abiding military decorated 70-something black man who has contributed to his country -

Is treated the same way a law breaking pot smoking in the street (Nye bevan's example) white 20 year old lay about is? That ain't right.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
224. Not just poor people of color are targeted by police.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:10 PM
Jul 2015

ALL people of color are. In fact, if you are a person of color and driving an expensive car, that's a reason in and of itself for you to be pulled over.

madville

(7,410 posts)
227. I'm not disputing that, simply pointing out
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:25 PM
Jul 2015

That low income white people are also routinely victims of law enforcement.

Does white privilege also apply to poor white people? If it does then to say "white privilege means never worrying about being a victim of law enforcement" is false.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
228. Poor white people are targeted for being poor, not for being white
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:27 PM
Jul 2015

so it's a lack of wealth privilege that causes that. Being white does not hurt them in the eyes of the police. That's how privilege works. You have it in some places, and not in others. People of color are targeted for being people of color. Poor people of color are targeted both for being poor AND for being people of color.

madville

(7,410 posts)
231. I agree with you and it should be more specific
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:38 PM
Jul 2015

"White privilege means never having to worry about being a victim of law enforcement due to race" would have been way more accurate.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
233. It does sound like that's the intent with the article
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:40 PM
Jul 2015

They might have thought that was obvious due to the title, but they could have explicitly stated it.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
5. Yes, or
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:23 PM
Jul 2015


9. White privilege means not having to worry about your hair, skin color, or cultural accessories as the reason you didn’t get a job.
 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
8. 18. White privilege means forever being forced to feel guilty for something you don't condone
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:29 PM
Jul 2015

or control. Fuck that shit.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
9. Yes, if your biggest problem is having to accept the role white people play in the
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jul 2015

racism that goes on in this country, if that is your biggest problem


oy


Then yes, it is an EXAMPLE of white privilege

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
12. Well...some whites may not own or condone white privilege
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:35 PM
Jul 2015

but that does't mean whites don't benefit from it.

If the 9/11 hijackers had been white, would white people have been demonized the way brown Muslims have been since 9/11?

All white people weren't held accountable for Timothy McVeigh, yet many whites constantly call on Muslims to denounce terrorism.

White privilege is perhaps not knowing that you'll serve less time in prison than a black person even if you both commit a similar crime.

Fuck that shit?

Indeed.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
20. Excellent point about 911. Even I am still amazed at how bad it is here with white
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:41 PM
Jul 2015

privilege and the denial of same

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
77. I don't deny it. If you think most people here aren't aware of it you're fucking clueless
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:44 PM
Jul 2015

I do what I can which granted isn't much, I have no power in this society except on a personal level, but go ahead keep slapping the faces of those who know and those who try to help push for a more equal society and pretty soon they 'll stop.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
116. my, my
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:41 PM
Jul 2015

it, the fact that white privilege is continually contributing to racism, both systemic and institutionalized, is not something to get offended by, IF you're trying to not exercise it every time a situation arises that contributes to racial inequality.

 

CANDO

(2,068 posts)
215. The reason these threads exist....
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:33 PM
Jul 2015

So you can do that......call your white liberal/progressive allies "racist assholes" with impunity when they don't play along with the narrative.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. If people have the ability to "force" you to feel guilt, you should try looking inward...
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:38 PM
Jul 2015

If people have the ability to "force" you to feel guilt, you should try looking inward to address that personal weakness rather than outward to simply cast blame.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
24. Nobody wants you to feel guilty about it.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:48 PM
Jul 2015

I certainly don't feel guilty about it.

But I do accept that it exists.

Do you?

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
157. Who the fuck is we?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 10:01 PM
Jul 2015

This entire thing has been a cry for trying to instill guilt in the blameless, a cry for an apology undeserved. And I repeat fuck that shit.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
153. I would not want to create guilt
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:34 PM
Jul 2015

among the whiners who feel powerless in their ability to stop the scrutiny of white privilege. It shall here and believe all over this net be a point of reference as to part of the problem with america. PLEASE!!! Don't feel guilty, but quit putting yourself on front street in showing the fear many here and other places are feeling as that privilege slowly diminishes and fades into the dustbin of history....

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
156. I don't fear anything but I do feel sorry for you
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:57 PM
Jul 2015

What will you blame for your failure when your current excuse disappears?

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
225. OK this comes off as a huge right-wing (and I mean WAY right wing - like Tea Party) meme
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:14 PM
Jul 2015

That people of color are failures who are using racism as an excuse for that failure, and that racism doesn't cause people to have trouble succeeding. I hope that's not what you mean because that has no place here.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
148. Every time.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:12 PM
Jul 2015

I swear to gawd the hardest part is getting them past this phantom guilt trip they think everyone's laying on them.

(And yes, at one time I was they.)

mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)
46. It has nothing to do with "forever being forced to feel guilty"
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:12 PM
Jul 2015

Because you don't condone it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, and acknowledging the existence of white privilege is a step to control it. If you've never seen it, your haven't been looking.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
69. Really?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:37 PM
Jul 2015

I think of it as a reason to try to be more aware. I know I don't always succeed, but being engaged in the process enlarges life. YMMV.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
104. Actually it means that one has privelege granted by their whtie skin that a neighbor of color
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:27 PM
Jul 2015

will never have.

It's the difference between finding it necessary to tell your family members, young and old, they should watch what they say to white folk - not get uppity, as it were - because they might be shot in the back by any of them, perhaps lynched, even by the police officers who are supposed to be there to protect them. Solely because of the color of their skin.

That is a fantastic privilege all white folk have in this country. It wouldn't be a privilege if black folk weren't treated very differently because of the color of their skin in so many ways.

So take this point to heart, get it through your head, whatever - that means white privilege isn't about you.

It has nothing to do with how YOU feel. How you feel is about you. Discussing you in this context would be selfish, really doesn't mean jack shit to anyone except you. That is one of the few things you are in complete control of, that mostly no one else can affect without your assistance.

The other reason you should not feel guilty - everyone has a privilege. Yours is to find many less barriers to life because you are white. If you want to feel guilty, go ahead. But no one else give a rat's ass whether you feel guilty or not, when a murdered victim of color, killed by a police gun, is laying in the street.

That is their privilege.

Because it's not about you.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
119. Just a heads up
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:43 PM
Jul 2015

Feeling guilty about slavery is a lot less painful with living with the consequences of slavery.

YMMV

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
19. Well, I don't know about that
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:40 PM
Jul 2015

I'd say straight privilege is the weird appropriation of gay culture by a heterosexual for a message board crusade. It kind of skeeves me out as a gay man, to be honest.

That said, this thread is weird. Compare these two things:

1. Law enforcement often kills young black men for no or suspect cause.

2. I want to use a racially inflammatory phrase on a message board without criticism.

Yes. Exactly alike issues. Not a hair's breadth of distance between the two.

(Again though, I find the gay appropriation really strange).

Response to heaven05 (Reply #126)

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
102. Lets contrast your situation
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:26 PM
Jul 2015

Growing up poor and white, vs. an African American child growing up poor.

Now, which of you had a better chance of advancing from a socio-economic perspective? You could walk into any store in America and no one would follow you. You could apply for any job, and be immediately viewed more favorable than your African American counterpart.

White privilege doesn't have anything to do with how much money you have. It has to do with everyday circumstances, and the advantages you have without even being aware of them.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
125. But we are not masters of how we are perceived by others
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:53 PM
Jul 2015

And perception and actions by others impact our circumstances. That is the whole point.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
137. This is an almost textbook example of white privilege.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:03 PM
Jul 2015

There is no "mastering the circumstances" of being a minority and the racism that comes with it. It's an easy thing to imagine that one can "get over it" when one isn't in the circumstance described.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
169. You may believe it, but it actually isn't true.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:02 AM
Jul 2015

There are many, many factors beyond anyone's control that affect who gets hired and fired, for example. In blind studies, applicants with a "black" name (or one that is perceived to be) are less likely to be hired than one with a "white" name. Men are more likely to be hired in similar tests than women. A person's weight affects whether or not they will be hired, etc.

It's called implicit bias. We all have it. I do, you do, everyone here does. It's pretty much unconscious and we are mostly unaware we are doing it, but it is there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicit_stereotype

And there is such a thing as stereotype threat, in which people who are reminded of their status do worse on tests. So, no, in many ways, we are not "master's of our circumstances." People who are born impoverished tend to remain that way through life, no matter how many Horatio Alger stories we may tell ourselves. Not to say it doesn't happen, but if you are born poor and minority, you have many cards stacked against you from the beginning. Not that it can't be overcome, but it is more than "pulling yourself up." No one "builds it themselves". No one.

And all "white privilege" (which I agree is an inartful term) says is that whites have built in advantages that others do not. It doesn't mean wealth necessarily.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
59. I meant this for philoslayer
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:28 PM
Jul 2015

not you, be you he or she...My point being that the 'white privilege' meme is being overplayed.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
129. It's not played enough
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:57 PM
Jul 2015

that is why racism is still a problem in america, or is there no racism in your world? You're color blind, post racial? What?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
146. Hans???? Right. Typical....what about white male privilege?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:03 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:37 PM - Edit history (1)

white male privilege is a fact of american life. It's been used to commit genocide against the First-true american and African-americans thru forced slavery and terror in the form of old and New Jim Crow laws, night riders of the KKK, . It's been used, recently, politically to try to deny women the right to make medical choices about their own bodies. What are you looking for? That's white privilege in a small way, it gets uglier. You don't know me, don't call me Hans, only my friends are allowed to call me that.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
151. LOL..Check your profile...It says "Real Name - Hans"
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:15 PM
Jul 2015

Even I was surprised.

By the way, it's not only White males.who have privilege, dear, it's ALL males

and I'm sure many AA women will be glad to.remind you of the fact.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
152. well "dear" back atcha
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:28 PM
Jul 2015

only my friends call me hans. Otherwise, yes male privilege without power to exert it on a whole society is a fact of life among AA people. Black males have privilege but in the pecking order that has been quietly kept under the radar. White male privilege is the one, dear, that has guided this country's fortunes for generations. I find many AA women exert quite a bit of power, Condi..ect ect ect. But Bush and Cheny pulled the trigger. THAT'S white male privilege. For definite fact. Women have been treated like second class citizens, you get no argument from me. That's white male privilege telling them they can't make informed choices about their bodies, not black male privilege.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
159. Can't "back atcha me, dear
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 10:09 PM
Jul 2015

'Cause you don't know my real name.

As for "white male.privilege".guiding this countries fortunes", yes, but 'this' is the key word.

In other countries/continents it's males of other colors, including yours.

As for AA women exerting "quite a bit of power", right -- White men say the same thing

to white women. -- It's a deflection.

There is NO male privilege 'without power". On a one.to one basis, you have physical power

over all women and social power, certainly, over women of your own race and arguably other races,

so forgive me if I don't feel "appropriately' guilty for my color -- Power accruing to it has been greatly

reduced by my gender.






 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
168. we're not talking of other countries
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:48 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:28 AM - Edit history (1)

other countries haven't caused up to a million civilian casualties in one war. Only white male privilege caused that. And while I really don't want to know your name "dear", back atcha and I'll be glad when the maturation process starts affecting your critical thinking skills. I'm done with your blindness, white male privilege + nuclear weapons + Hiroshima=white male power and privilege to detonate that horrible device on human beings. Also, please refrain from the idea that you can explain to me the dynamic of AA male power or ability. You can't period. It has been 'splained' to me hundreds of times by people with no clue. bye

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
203. Yes we are, because your wildly inaccurate statements compel us to talk about them.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 04:03 PM
Jul 2015

and if you had the slightest grasp of even recent history, you'd know how foolish your claim that only

"white male privilege caused up to a million casualties".

Ever heard of the Rwandan Genocide? Since it occurred only 20 years ago, dear,

there's really excuse for your ignorance, but let's give you a 'heads up', shall we?

Two African populations slaughtered each other's men, women, and children. The

carnage surpassed anything seen on the continent in a century, and they needed no hydrogen

bomb to cause a million civilians casualties. Technology doesn't make people more evil, dear, just more efficient.

Good grief, there was even been a film made about it called "Hotel Rwanda" starring Don Cheadle

Looks like you need to get out more, genius, and, yes, I'm sure, as well as glad, that you're "done with me".

Remedial education is SO tiring.


 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
209. look at it this way "dear"
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:59 PM
Jul 2015

you can't deal with reality, I can't help that. Keep up the good work in digging that hole to china, you'll reach sooner or later. Have a good one. I really have had a lot of fun with you. Your snark is amusing to say the least about you. But boring. I have wasted enough time on you. Back to serious business.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
220. I thought you were 'done' with me, dear!
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:59 PM
Jul 2015

How predictable of you to avoid the substance of a post and choose, instead, to rely on name calling and baseless assertions.

Learn to construct a sound argument, Heaven05.
It's something that can be learned and it's a valuable tool
that will help you in life, not to mention on DU.


Until then, I'm afraid I'll have to invite you onto the Big O List..

Goodbye and good luck.

























randys1

(16,286 posts)
31. RIght here at the OP, 17 examples, didnt you read the link?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:52 PM
Jul 2015

DId you actually believe that because you arent rich that you also have no white privilege?

I cant speak to what you DID with that privilege, but I can GOD DAMN guarantee you have it

randys1

(16,286 posts)
34. Nah, I have to curse, it makes me feel better when I am dealing with people who refuse
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:54 PM
Jul 2015

to accept reality

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
35. My apologies, I read back over some of....
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:56 PM
Jul 2015

your responses to me....and I forgot how easy it is to rile you up.
No need to respond. I'm done.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
198. No - I want her back
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:52 PM
Jul 2015

She's one of the people making me crack up over here! She's a proper lady heaven - quite refined.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
134. super hero huh
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:01 PM
Jul 2015

my, my my. Everyone one looking for a super hero savior and he/she is right in front of you, IF you're standing in front of a mirror.

Response to randys1 (Reply #31)

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
64. What about Male Privilege?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:35 PM
Jul 2015

Want to wring your hands a little about that, or are you too busy enjoying it?

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
40. Me too.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:00 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:56 PM - Edit history (1)

And I can still walk home from work at 2 a.m. w/o fear of the police killing me or beating me or even just checking to see why I'm walking through such a nice neighborhood at that hour. I don't have to worry about the folks that live in said neighborhood calling the cops on me. I don't have to worry about the store clerk eyeballing me with suspicion when I stop in for a pack of smokes at that hour.


Upon edit: Apparently I didn't make my position clear. It's because I'm a white male that I don't have to worry about any of those things. There is white privilege. I hope for a country where there is isn't, we're all equal as human beings.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
84. As a female, I can't walk home at 2:00 am
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:49 PM
Jul 2015

without fear of some MALE raping and/or killing me.

Must be great having that Male Privilege.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
85. ???
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:51 PM
Jul 2015

I agree. And I recognize that. I don't understand why you assume I'm unaware that I'm very lucky to be a white male in America.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
93. So I'm responsible for that?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:08 PM
Jul 2015

I responded to another poster about the subject matter and then you assume I'm not aware nor care about women's safety? That I'm unaware that men rape women every day? Or that there are shelters over flowing with abused women try to get away from their abusers?
I have two sisters that are women. In fact, my mom was too and before you make another assumption about me referring to my mom in the past tense, is because she's passed on so she's nothing but a hole in my heart that will never be filled. I care very much about the opposite sex members of this country and the world. I'm extremely p/o'ed that you assume the worst of somebody and insult me like this especially in a response of mine where I acknowledge white privilege and how lucky I am. Wouldn't that give you a clue that I might actually be a decent human being?

You're upset that there aren't enough threads addressing women's issues as it relates white male or just male privilege. Start some. But please, in the future, don't assume I'm an ignorant, head up my butt, misogynistic, classless bore.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
124. Wow..
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:52 PM
Jul 2015

I doubt I seemed nearly as upset as your

long post tells me you are, but your reaction -

- some might say overreaction -- Is instructive,

as I believe it's like that of many white DUers

when repeatedly lectured on 'white privilege'








JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
201. This plus 1000
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 03:00 PM
Jul 2015
You're upset that there aren't enough threads addressing women's issues as it relates white male or just male privilege. Start some. But please, in the future, don't assume I'm an ignorant, head up my butt, misogynistic, classless bore


HOF is always rocking and we are more than happy to have these discussions with her if she wants to start them!
 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
208. You confuse me. In another thread you were wringing your hands...
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 06:13 PM
Jul 2015

... at the horrifying prospect of government aggressively taxing million dollar incomes. Are you rich? Poor? or a temporarily embarassed millionaire?

randys1

(16,286 posts)
38. We will get back to you when we are at that point where you can feel very
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:59 PM
Jul 2015

comfortable and un-threatened, we will do the actual work in the meantime.

Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #32)

randys1

(16,286 posts)
57. You are now stalking me because you cant defend your comments and you
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:25 PM
Jul 2015

have a rather silly idea that doing this is clever.

It isnt.

Either defend your comments or dont

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
58. it does kind of remind me of 'original sin', from my Catholic school days
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:25 PM
Jul 2015

'so what if you didn't do anything wrong, Adam and Eve did. Doesn't matter that you've never met them, they sinned and that sin is now yours. And that means you'd better please me'

a lot of really horrible things went on in that school.....

doesn't mean that this is the same thing, but it admittedly, it does hit the same nerve, rightly or wrongly

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
72. Boy, isn't it great to be such brutal and and bloodthirsty oppressors?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:41 PM
Jul 2015

These oppressors murdered or displaced millions of indigenous peoples in the Americas and Australia, captured and enslaved millions more, segregated and consistently feed an inferiority complex to those enslaved people, murdered millions during WWI and WWII then overthrew progressive governments and installed oppressive fundamentalist dictators.


randys1

(16,286 posts)
74. But but just saying that makes me uncomfy, and whiny. dont you see
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:42 PM
Jul 2015

and if I type que instead of cue, I can then make fun of me for multiple posts while ignoring the reason why I have to do that, see

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
80. And we revere those racist slaveholding monsters Washington and Jefferson.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:46 PM
Jul 2015

What the hell is wrong with us?

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
90. I'd really like to discuss the contents of the OP, but if I don't agree whole-heartedly...
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:00 PM
Jul 2015

...I'll just open myself up to accusations (either implied or explicit) of being ignorant due to my privilege or latent racism.

So I don't usually respond.

When you post things like this, what responses are you hoping to get in return?


randys1

(16,286 posts)
91. AFter thread after thread on DU of white people arguing about why they dont have
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:01 PM
Jul 2015

white privilege or the Black tennis player isnt really all that, etc.

I figured I would point these facts about white privilege out.

What about these can you not agree with?

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
142. So here is my issue with something like that Buzzfeed piece.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:15 PM
Jul 2015

Many of the statements begin with the basic form, "Because of white privilege, you’ll never [enter example of white privilege]."

The problem with these statements is that if there exists one instance to the contrary, it proves the claim false. It doesn't matter if there are a millions counter instances or just one.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
95. It's even more white privilege to be even secretly judgmental about other races in America
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:10 PM
Jul 2015

White people enjoy the best benefits of America, they have no right to judge the financial performance (or well being) of people of other races in America, who didn't enjoy multi-generational, class and majority privilege.

If certain blacks and hispanics do really well financially in America, that's good. However, they are more likely the exception rather than the rule. How many white people would do just as well without the privileges they have being a white American? A lot of white Americans are relatively well off because they had the privilege of riding the coattails of the postwar boom (which was largely closed to minorities.)


Also, some minorities, like Asians, do well financially. However that's because they often come to America with some sort of financial advantages in the first place: they tend to have enough money to start a business in this country, and they put their children through college and push them to become professionals, or they come here either wealthy or already have some prominent university education (which is a middle class privilege.)

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
103. they have NOTHING but that
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:26 PM
Jul 2015

as you pointed out. Nothing to see there with the "usual suspects". They love to get their kicks in, cheaply.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
106. It wouldnt matter to me if I didnt actually care about the horrible damage done to POC
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:30 PM
Jul 2015

by us white folks, but I do

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
111. they don't matter
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:35 PM
Jul 2015

probably will always live in the dark, never to come out into the light of the real world as your post aptly depicts. Don't sweat them, they are not worth it. The TRUTH ALWAYS SPEAKS FOR ITSELF and BS like theirs ends up in the toilet of history. Ohhhh, that was a good one if I say so myself... I just have fun with them, it's something to do as a distraction.....

randys1

(16,286 posts)
113. I usually do have fun with them but I also NEVER respond to a certain group, and I blew it
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:37 PM
Jul 2015

today and hit the wrong button.

I usually use posts I agree with to respond to , well you know, to illustrate my point.

We are fortunate here at DU, while there are many white people here who deny their white privilege, the rhetoric isnt as violent as you will see elsewhere.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
122. Ohhh, trust me, I know
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:46 PM
Jul 2015

truly a mean spirited and viciously hateful groups of racist in america. I totally agree. hey keep up the good work and glad to see the OP here and responses. They keep things in perspective for a lot of critical thinkers who know how to reasonably arrive at the truth about american culture.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
121. Just watched "The Long Walk Home" last night on Netflix
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:44 PM
Jul 2015

Even those of us who didn't live in that time, or weren't in an area where it was happening, can learn about this through film and books.

It should be required in high school, if not earlier, but in the South they are trying to remove it from schools altogether.

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
173. I've walked from the BART station in Oakland to the Oaks Card room about 10-15 blocks away
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jul 2015

I was definitely aware of my colour.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
174. Scottish Girl Told She is "Too Pale" To Board Plane
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:44 AM
Jul 2015
Attention world: If you’re looking too pasty nowadays, you may not be able to catch your flight to the Bahamas. Scottish teenager Grace Wain was stopped by flight staff members and told she was too pale to fly. Wain, a 14-year-old redhead, was on her way to vacation in the Maldives with her family when Etihad Airways gate agents expressed concerns about her boarding the flight. Based on her paleness and the fact that she appeared tired and worn down, they insisted that she was possibly too sick to fly, and demanded that she see the airport paramedic for consultation.

Apparently that wasn’t enough, though, because even after the paramedic said she was okay to fly, the staff further insisted that she provide a written note from her family doctor giving her the okay. After contacting her doctor and providing a short one sentence letter vouching for her health (“I know of no reason why this patient should not fly,” the letter stated according to The Daily Record), the airlines finally gave in and allowed Wain to board along with her father, mother, and brother.

Her father, Paul Wain, was astounded at the airline’s behavior.

“I told them, ‘We live in Scotland. She is a redhead and she has a pale complexion. That’s just the way she is,” Wain told The Daily Record.

http://www.bustle.com/articles/96805-scottish-girl-told-she-is-too-pale-to-board-plane-because-apparently-you-need-to-be

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
205. She's from Scotland
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 05:03 PM
Jul 2015

Can't you find a white person in America who #UnitedSucks wouldn't let fly to Costa Rica? That would be a better example.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
214. no it isn't
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:23 PM
Jul 2015

it's the horrible truth. Scary, that fear of losing something one counts on everyday to stay ahead, isn't it? Wow. I don't feel for you.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
178. Mmm, that's some good racism.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:09 PM
Jul 2015

It's good that we have an ethnic group we can beat on pretty much whenever we want.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
180. Yeah dividing people based on the color of their skin.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:13 PM
Jul 2015

And making broad untrue stereotypes is completely fine as long as its done to white people. Its never been so fun to be a racist. Lets all hate on whitey.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
197. Leave Guy Whitey Corngood out of this!
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:47 PM
Jul 2015
Trust me - you do NOT want him showing up on this thread!

ETA - my bad. He IS on this thread. Let me go see if he wants to respond to being picked on!
 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
184. It's one of the great ironies of the current age
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:17 PM
Jul 2015

How the SJW set embodies unrepentant racism, sexism, bigotry of all stripes while railing against same.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
216. this OP is one of
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:34 PM
Jul 2015

the greatest truths about american culture and reveals why institutionalized and systemic RACISM is so hard to defeat. With the whining, crying, diminishing, distracting attempted here in last couple of days concerning the truth of this OP, I have finally seen real fear from some people who cannot deal with the fact that others know about your privilege and have finally shed light upon it. And with what I've had to read here, that light is hurting a lot of people who thought they could keep their 'secret' hidden. Nope. Everyone knows, who knows the truth and are critical thinkers enough to admit the truth. Quit whining and crying and give it up.....

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
239. Fear, or weary dismissal?
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:46 AM
Jul 2015

The latter seems to be what the SJW movement mostly inspires. It's hard to say bigots are "feared" in the current climate, I think disdain or simply "being done" with them is a more apt description. At some point, one just stops listening.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
240. stop listening? dismissal?
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:28 AM
Jul 2015

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who cares. It's what the privileged have always done. Disdain, sure. Fear not of them. They fear losing, that's what I am saying. And I am laughing out loud at the palpable fear they are showing. Don't care, don't listen. Won't make a difference one way or the other. Only precise, concise revelation of unjust systems and institutions and a continuing hammering away at the inequality of those societal systems and institutions that discriminate based on color, gender, sexual orientation will change things. You don't think that in 50 years of fighting against an unjust system I haven't wanted to just go into a cave and pull the rock in behind me. Just never have been left alone long enough with constant reminders that I'm not good enough to be called equal. Never been accepted as 100 percent human...3/4 of a man....actually what a lot still think. Don't care? I could care less. It's why hate based on race is so hard to defeat. You have the option to not care, people getting shot down in the streets and churches because of the color of their skin doesn't give me that privileged option. Have a good one not caring....

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
187. Uncover your eyes and maybe you will see...
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:26 PM
Jul 2015

But Im not going to waste my time explaining it to you.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
238. And likewise to you.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:43 AM
Jul 2015

How is fighting bigotry with more bigotry working out for you? Do you think it's a viable long-term strategy for establishing equality and peaceful co-existence?

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
242. Sorry, having your delicate fee-fees hurt isn't bigotry.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 12:04 PM
Jul 2015

Your serious use of the term SJW tells me all I need to know about you.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
243. Hahaha, it would take a lot more than that.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 12:31 PM
Jul 2015

It's always funny to see that "bathing in <hated group's> tears" meme whenever people get tired of SJW's and tell them to go away. But I suppose there has to be some salve for not being taken seriously by anybody. May it soothe your hurts.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
246. I bathe in the tears of impotent little neckbeards.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 01:06 PM
Jul 2015

Please, do tell us how atheism is the new civil rights movement, oh fedora'd one!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
213. every time I open my eyes
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:20 PM
Jul 2015

another black person, unarmed, men, women and children are shot down in the streets and churches of this country. And the ones doing the shooting believe the propaganda to be able to shoot down innocent and untried victims with summary executions. Dylaan roof believed the propaganda, did he not? So that's as far as I'll go in explaining the lack of understanding you have about this OP. You're not alone. It is obvious to critical thinkers, otherwise it's lost in a morass of whining and crying with obvious fear of losing the very thing the OP is pointing out. Truly sad.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
207. This is why I dislike the term, it is more person of color disadvantage
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 06:07 PM
Jul 2015

Nothing on the list is a "privilege" but rather how EVERYONE should be treated.

I believe the term conveys the idea all would be well if whites were treated as such and of course that isn't true. The idea is for all to be treated equally well not equally abused.

It is no privilege not to be beaten on, thrown in jail, abused, generally treated like a criminal but rights some of us don't have protected.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
236. What is wrong? You think people should be beaten on, thrown in jail, and killed?
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 06:46 AM
Jul 2015

Is it your opinion this should be the base state and any better is a privilege?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
241. huh???
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:34 AM
Jul 2015

Certain people have the privilege of knowing they will not, short of posing a real lethal threat to the authorities, be beaten, jailed unjustly or executed summarily in the streets based on their color. Get off of it. Doesn't make sense what you say. It has never been the "base" in this country that the privileged sub group faces the threat that the unprivileged sub group does. Don't worry, won't happen to you, I can guarantee that, based on your privileged status in american society.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
226. Number 17
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:19 PM
Jul 2015

It is insulting to pretend there is nothing different about being white. It's also insulting to pretend not to notice skin color. "Oh! Gerald is black, isn't he? Funny, I never noticed."

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
230. Most of these are not true
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:36 PM
Jul 2015

For example, the first two:

1. Because of white privilege, you’ll never have to worry about becoming the victim of law enforcement officers.

Definitely and demonstrably not true. Perhaps changing the wording from "never have to worry..." to something else would help.

2. Thankfully, you’ll never have to know what it feels like to see your teenage son’s death being mocked.

Also not true. Teens post mocking pictures of pretty much anything, including white people getting killed.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
232. Maybe "never have to worry . . . due to your skin color"
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:38 PM
Jul 2015

I think that's what's intended by the article but it doesn't state that explicitly.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
234. There are thoughtful, intelligent articles about White Privilege and then there is silly click bait
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:44 PM
Jul 2015

This OP falls in the latter category, in my opinion.

Trivializes a real issue by reducing it sloppily into an over-simplified and sporadically inaccurate list.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
235. OH look
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 06:12 AM
Jul 2015

another privilege thread where everyone is bickering and picking at each other. This is is why race relations will never improve in this country. *sighs* Fools.

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