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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:22 PM Jul 2015

Why the Iran Deal Makes Obama's Critics So Angry (this also applies to liberal critics)

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/07/iran-nuclear-deal-obama/398450/?google_editors_picks=true

The people here lambasting Obama's domestic achievements could do to take this to heart also:

“Mankind faces a crossroads,” declared Woody Allen. “One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly.”

The point is simple: In life, what matters most isn’t how a decision compares to your ideal outcome. It’s how it compares to the alternative at hand.

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But let’s assume that Obama, or George W. Bush before him, did outline goals that the current deal doesn’t meet. So what? Those goals are irrelevant, unless Cotton and company have a plausible plan for achieving them by scrapping the existing deal, which they don’t.

When critics focus incessantly on the gap between the present deal and a perfect one, what they’re really doing is blaming Obama for the fact that the United States is not omnipotent. This isn’t surprising given that American omnipotence is the guiding assumption behind contemporary Republican foreign policy. Ask any GOP presidential candidate except Rand Paul what they propose doing about any global hotspot and their answer is the same: be tougher. America must take a harder line against Iran’s nuclear program, against ISIS, against Bashar al-Assad, against Russian intervention in Ukraine and against Chinese ambitions in the South China Sea.
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Why the Iran Deal Makes Obama's Critics So Angry (this also applies to liberal critics) (Original Post) Recursion Jul 2015 OP
Beating your war drums with this OP? PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #1
I have war drums? (nt) Recursion Jul 2015 #3
Ok, maybe war tambourine. n/t PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #5
Also broadbrush bashing liberals, so a triple whammy. merrily Jul 2015 #7
Tough act to follow HassleCat Jul 2015 #2
Definitely an amazing second term Recursion Jul 2015 #4
Does Not Make THIS Liberal Critic Angry... WillyT Jul 2015 #6
Agreed Recursion Jul 2015 #8
Anyone who takes Iran as a credible threat to the US is themselves not credible Fumesucker Jul 2015 #9

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. Also broadbrush bashing liberals, so a triple whammy.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:37 PM
Jul 2015

Hat trick? Three corner monte? Shell game (sans pea)? "Business" as usual?

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
2. Tough act to follow
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:25 PM
Jul 2015

The next president will have a difficult time keeping up with Obama in the realm of significant accomplishments. OK, it will be tough for a Democratic president. A Republican president could just stay busy repealing all the good things Obama did.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
6. Does Not Make THIS Liberal Critic Angry...
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:37 PM
Jul 2015

Glad they got it done.

And anything that makes John McCain and Lindsey Graham flip out, is fine by me.


Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
9. Anyone who takes Iran as a credible threat to the US is themselves not credible
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:41 PM
Jul 2015

Iran isn't remotely in the same league as the US, economically, politically or militarily, the US rolled over Saddam's forces in days that the Iranians battled for years to stop.

You might recall Hillary's comment about "obliterating" Iran.

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