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randys1

(16,286 posts)
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:05 PM Jul 2015

For GOD's sake, stop shaking hands.

The reason we started shaking hands was to make sure the other person didnt have a weapon in his or her hand.

No weapons to worry about, for the most part (I will resist my usual anti gun comment here)

Shaking hands spreads disease, colds, flu, etc.

Stop it

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For GOD's sake, stop shaking hands. (Original Post) randys1 Jul 2015 OP
Only fist-bumps then, Randys1? villager Jul 2015 #1
Do you know me? you must randys1 Jul 2015 #2
Well, next time I'm in the SF Bay Area, we shall fist-bump! villager Jul 2015 #5
I must be giving away more personal info than I realized. randys1 Jul 2015 #7
I think we have publicly rooted for most of the same teams, on here. villager Jul 2015 #11
I didnt, but did you catch AROLDIS CHAPMAN throwing 103 mph fastballs last night? randys1 Jul 2015 #14
Indeed I did. I hope he winds up as a Giant! villager Jul 2015 #36
No. Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #3
Oh, yes. + a MILLION lunamagica Jul 2015 #4
I actually knew a guy who practiced that, doing only fistbumps pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #6
If I anticipated meeting the OP Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #50
You are evil and wicked! pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #51
Lol! cwydro Jul 2015 #124
Evil and funny! Rex Jul 2015 #142
I strictly fist bump now. If we're tight, I'll blow it up NightWatcher Jul 2015 #8
I had to ask a younger, hipper version to tell me about elaborate handshakes. randys1 Jul 2015 #9
We white guys learned the dap from our brothers in Vietnam pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #12
Practice practice practice NightWatcher Jul 2015 #13
Yeah...um, no pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #17
Seriously?! what is the guy in the top gif DOING?? jonno99 Jul 2015 #64
The hyper-masculine 'jock culture', is puzzling to me, at times, also. n/t ronnie624 Jul 2015 #100
Now I don't know a lot about Bases Ball, but that guy looks like he is fondling his rivals ball sac. Rex Jul 2015 #145
Could be. I've been around the world and seen lots of things... jonno99 Jul 2015 #149
Mine too, I had to go back a few times in the video to make sure that what I was seeing Rex Jul 2015 #150
ha! yes you should speak wendylaroux Jul 2015 #16
Why on earth would you care pintobean Jul 2015 #10
ummmmmmmm it spreads disease MattBaggins Jul 2015 #96
We should all wear fucking surgical masks too! Nt Logical Jul 2015 #160
Yes, it does, and worse... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #15
It almost makes sense for female anatomy, Ms. Toad Jul 2015 #69
As a woman, I've had men refuse to shake my hand riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #18
do you live in Pakistan? snooper2 Jul 2015 #26
You just got insulted when SheilaT talked about washing your hands riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #27
Huh? I got insulted? What are you going on about? snooper2 Jul 2015 #30
Oops! Sorry, meant that response to randy nt riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #32
Orthodox Jews do that. SheilaT Jul 2015 #54
I had a friend who was a flight attendant who would do runs to Tel Aviv MADem Jul 2015 #70
Did you know... notadmblnd Jul 2015 #151
That's a nasty rumor spread by cleanshaven men pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #161
lol notadmblnd Jul 2015 #162
It's an Islamic thing, I believe. n./t whathehell Jul 2015 #61
Hey..I'm sorry but if you think some woman is going to infect me with cooties and destroy.. BlueJazz Jul 2015 #79
Says the guy already infected with BlueJizz pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #88
I've had them for so long, I've named them and they're in my will. BlueJazz Jul 2015 #93
Handwashing solves a lot of disease problems. SheilaT Jul 2015 #19
Thanks for implying I am dirty...great fucking place this DU randys1 Jul 2015 #23
YOU'RE the one who wants everyone to not shake hands SheilaT Jul 2015 #49
Wait...what? logic?! Shame on you. jonno99 Jul 2015 #57
I know, I should know better. SheilaT Jul 2015 #83
Doesn't your OP accuse everyone of being dirty by default? NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #119
Back when I was cooking short order, people would complain if I didn't change gloves Recursion Jul 2015 #46
"The dirtiest place in a restaurant is always the till." Or the menu. Scuba Jul 2015 #121
And all the politicians would be continually sick. cwydro Jul 2015 #125
I not only shake hands... pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #20
Love all of that LOL randys1 Jul 2015 #21
I've heard that many times but it's the wrong message. snagglepuss Jul 2015 #22
Yes shanti Jul 2015 #28
My supermarket has handwipes at the entrances/exits pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #31
They're a great idea but the child seat is probably more snagglepuss Jul 2015 #41
That's precisely why I always avoid sitting in the child seat pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #43
Snort snagglepuss Jul 2015 #44
I LOVE those things! AwakeAtLast Jul 2015 #153
What's the first thing you do when you leave the restroom? Ex Lurker Jul 2015 #29
You are--literally--a party pooper pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #34
They have! missingthebigdog Jul 2015 #37
I use the paper towel I used to dry my hands to open the door. snagglepuss Jul 2015 #38
Yep me too - one of my pet peeves (I don't have many - really) is restrooms having only air dryers. jonno99 Jul 2015 #62
Ditto. Ms. Toad Jul 2015 #67
"I have to get creative" - I know what you mean. If someone were to watch me exit a bathroom jonno99 Jul 2015 #75
We must be twins... Ms. Toad Jul 2015 #113
I always wished I'd had a sister...sniff (I've got three brothers).... jonno99 Jul 2015 #137
Wash hands, dry with towel, use towel to open door, throw towel away. Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #66
Disgusting.... MattBaggins Jul 2015 #98
I'm protecting myself from the germs that are already there - Ms. Toad Jul 2015 #114
That is why you should hang on to your paper towel, and use that to get the door open... MADem Jul 2015 #71
Why not just wash them before you eat, and that's it? Marr Jul 2015 #82
Because we keep touching our eyes, nose and mouth throughout the day. jeff47 Jul 2015 #85
I heard here that my California face already glows from Fukushima pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #95
Hmm, interesting. /nt Marr Jul 2015 #102
First world problem Fumesucker Jul 2015 #24
No.... spreading disease is a problem every where MattBaggins Jul 2015 #99
That's exactily why I quit shaking hands! pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #103
Anywhere other than the first world there are problems far greater than shaking hands Fumesucker Jul 2015 #117
Yep! cwydro Jul 2015 #126
And yet... even there disease and sickness are spread by (wait for it) shaking hands. LanternWaste Jul 2015 #164
Second rate response. LanternWaste Jul 2015 #163
After we met at the door today, I promise NOT to try to shake your hand again snooper2 Jul 2015 #25
Not just NO, but FUCK NO!!!!! N/T MicaelS Jul 2015 #33
You and Howard Hughes hobbit709 Jul 2015 #35
I think randy is having some fun playing devil's advocate pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #39
how about rubbing noses.... dhill926 Jul 2015 #40
Hugs!? immoderate Jul 2015 #42
Commingling dirty bodies and dirty heads? pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #45
The only time my hands shake is when I've had too much alcohol the night before. scarletwoman Jul 2015 #47
There is a very simple Texasgal Jul 2015 #48
Howard? Is that you? GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #52
Hughes....or Mandel? nt MADem Jul 2015 #72
I've shaken hands tens of thousands of times, with thousands of people. I'm fine. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #53
Yeah panader0 Jul 2015 #55
I've shaken hands tens of thousands of times, with thousands of people and...gaaaak pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #56
Nothing but eyeball licking from here on! Scootaloo Jul 2015 #58
Should we bow? HassleCat Jul 2015 #59
It rarely came up in Boston Warpy Jul 2015 #60
I love it pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #65
Finally! thank you. In my circle of family and friends we're hand-shakers and huggers. jonno99 Jul 2015 #78
I never did more hugging than when I first met other Vietnam vets pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #156
Sometimes you're forced to shake hands, Jamaal510 Jul 2015 #63
Just wash your hands, Ms. Toad Jul 2015 #68
I do not shake hands with you! pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #73
I'll just leave this here; "Cleanliness cues activate conservative attitudes" lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #74
Fascinating link, l_j, thanks. nt appal_jack Jul 2015 #132
I always obey the restroom signs and clean my manlihood pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #76
ROFLMAO!!! Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #127
:) pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #157
We could kiss like much of the rest of the world does. BainsBane Jul 2015 #77
So I see you're from out of town. Smarmie Doofus Jul 2015 #80
I agree laundry_queen Jul 2015 #81
Since you have health issues SheilaT Jul 2015 #84
There was a course during my microbiology degree jeff47 Jul 2015 #86
I never have a problem with this. My booger picker always seems to find the inside of my nostril. Kennah Jul 2015 #87
Human contact is a positive thing Marrah_G Jul 2015 #89
Let me be the first one shake your hand for this post....... Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #90
How's about a hug then libodem Jul 2015 #91
We are all POOP carriers! pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #92
I like shaking hands bigwillq Jul 2015 #94
You WOULD! pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #97
Yesterday the exterminator came to set rat traps in my garage. Jane Austin Jul 2015 #101
Getting their scent on you might just save your life pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #104
I want to lick your face! haikugal Jul 2015 #105
randy is in fine form here! pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #106
Are you still alive? kentauros Jul 2015 #107
Gloves? We don't need no stinking gloves! pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #108
I thought it was stinking badgers? kentauros Jul 2015 #109
God? Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #110
I trust you, randy, so if you say so... pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #111
Can we hug? Cha Jul 2015 #112
Of all the things to start an OP about. A HERETIC I AM Jul 2015 #115
Oh, I agree. betsuni Jul 2015 #116
Thank you for your kind concern. NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #118
Thanks, I'll put that on my list of concerns... brooklynite Jul 2015 #120
With a ceremonial dagger I slice my palm and that of my new acquaintance Orrex Jul 2015 #122
Back to the casual blowjob it is, then. Codeine Jul 2015 #123
LOL! MineralMan Jul 2015 #138
I'm sure you are a hit at parties..... AwakeAtLast Jul 2015 #152
So do hugs. tazkcmo Jul 2015 #128
Depends on who you interact with on a regular basis. randome Jul 2015 #129
If you have a healthy immune system Bettie Jul 2015 #130
Oh, for the love of the Jeebus. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2015 #131
I actually don't use a ruler when dancing. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #133
How often do you shake people's hands? gollygee Jul 2015 #134
Weirdest rant ever. nt Adrahil Jul 2015 #135
I used to have a regional supervisor with a bone-crunching handshake. LeftinOH Jul 2015 #136
Our entire world is teeming with bacteria and viruses. MineralMan Jul 2015 #139
Good post. cwydro Jul 2015 #140
I'm rarely ill, too. I practice normal hygiene, MineralMan Jul 2015 #143
At the gym they have spray bottles of disinfectant all over the place. randome Jul 2015 #159
Well okay then. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2015 #141
Nah Facility Inspector Jul 2015 #144
You know those yummy donuts in the break room? Rex Jul 2015 #146
Selfies have replaced hand-shaking by politicians JPZenger Jul 2015 #147
Shaking hands is a sign of respect in my area of the world. hamsterjill Jul 2015 #148
OMG, it's even worse than we thought! pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #154
I don't think so. (nt) Paladin Jul 2015 #155
Oh FFS, lighten up! Nt Logical Jul 2015 #158
Are you celibate? FrodosPet Jul 2015 #165
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
11. I think we have publicly rooted for most of the same teams, on here.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:18 PM
Jul 2015

I myself am a Bay Area ex-pat, but love to get back often.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
4. Oh, yes. + a MILLION
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:11 PM
Jul 2015

I hate it, hate it, hate and wish that disgusting custom would disappear once and for all!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
6. I actually knew a guy who practiced that, doing only fistbumps
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:12 PM
Jul 2015

He died, from multiple illnesses. True story.

R.I.P. Doorgunner Bob.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
142. Evil and funny!
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:57 AM
Jul 2015

Better yet go to a restaurant with the OP and lick your fingers after dinner (while telling the OP you are going to touch every door knob and handle they own)! I bet the OP pukes.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
8. I strictly fist bump now. If we're tight, I'll blow it up
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:13 PM
Jul 2015

That's just how I roll

(I'm 40 and should not speak like this, ever)

randys1

(16,286 posts)
9. I had to ask a younger, hipper version to tell me about elaborate handshakes.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jul 2015

I am still not good at them

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
12. We white guys learned the dap from our brothers in Vietnam
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:23 PM
Jul 2015

Then the posers had to do umpty-ump variations.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
145. Now I don't know a lot about Bases Ball, but that guy looks like he is fondling his rivals ball sac.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 11:02 AM
Jul 2015

Just a quick diddle with a full hand cup. Maybe some strange mating ritual?

jonno99

(2,620 posts)
149. Could be. I've been around the world and seen lots of things...
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 11:18 AM
Jul 2015

but whatever he is doing registers high on my weird-shit-o-meter...

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
150. Mine too, I had to go back a few times in the video to make sure that what I was seeing
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 11:21 AM
Jul 2015

wasn't a trick of the camera, etc..

Nope, looks like straight up ball fondling. High indeed...maybe someone with an expert view of the game can tell us the hidden meaning.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
15. Yes, it does, and worse...
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jul 2015

sometimes one of my more unorthodox practices is noticed and I have to explain that I wash my hands before relieving myself for my own protection.

After all, I took a shower earlier and my privates have been protected by at least two layers of clothing. My hands, however, have been exposed to all manner of diseases and toxins, and shaking hands exacerbates the problem.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
69. It almost makes sense for female anatomy,
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:29 PM
Jul 2015

not so much for people with male anatomy whose germ pathways in the nether regions are much better protected than people with female anatomy.

Even for people with female genitalia, the germs that often infect the urinary tract or vaginal tract come from fecal matter - which advance hand washing is not going to prevent.

External contact with intact non-mucosal skin is rarely a means for germs to enter the body.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
18. As a woman, I've had men refuse to shake my hand
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:41 PM
Jul 2015

because they think I'm "unclean".

It's insulting when someone refuses to shake hands, especially as a female.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
27. You just got insulted when SheilaT talked about washing your hands
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:51 PM
Jul 2015

the implication that one is "unclean" is insulting. Your OP makes clear you think people are big dirty germ bombs. You want to take religious bat shit insanity about touching others and expand it cause we're all "unclean".

Just wash your hands and deal with the fact that shaking hands is an American cultural norm.



 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
30. Huh? I got insulted? What are you going on about?
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:54 PM
Jul 2015

You posted that you have had men refuse to shake your hands because women are "unclean"

asked question- went off rails-

I have a bridge where we can get everyone interested on a conference call at 9:00 - Asher Style!

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
54. Orthodox Jews do that.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:33 PM
Jul 2015

It's happened to me and I was beyond insulted. Made me want to deliberately touch that religious misogynist asshole and make HIM as unclean as possible. Then tell him I needed to change a tampon so he'd totally freak out.

The reason with Orthodox Jews doing this is that they consider women unclean when they have their periods, and since they cannot possibly know if a random woman out there is having her period, they consider all women unclean by default. Really. If I had the misfortune to spend much time with such, I'd be very open and very vocal about my cycle. Although at my age that's no longer an issue, but again, they can't look at me, calculate that I'm at least a decade past menopause, and shake my hand.

Don't get me started.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
70. I had a friend who was a flight attendant who would do runs to Tel Aviv
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:45 PM
Jul 2015

The FAs would use that very tactic.

The plane would be loaded with religious guys who didn't want to sit next to women, who didn't like the women talking to them, who would get very angry when they were being served food or beverages from women and would get very commanding and demanding. The ladies found a way to 'get back' at them by smiling and putting up with their shit, and then standing near the worst offenders and one would ask the other for a tampon, while they'd both comment on how troublesome their menstrual cycles were that particular month!

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
151. Did you know...
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jul 2015

That the largest amount of fecal matter is found on men with facial hair? That's right, those nasty old beards men wear are full of shit.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
162. lol
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:23 PM
Jul 2015
do you wash your face after you flush? All those little toilet sprinkles come up and land in the beard especially if you stand to pee. It's not just your poop, it's everyone's who has pooped in your pot before your use.
 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
79. Hey..I'm sorry but if you think some woman is going to infect me with cooties and destroy..
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:14 PM
Jul 2015

my perfect germ-free body ...well Ha!

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
19. Handwashing solves a lot of disease problems.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:43 PM
Jul 2015

If you're hardly ever washing your hands, then maybe you shouldn't shake hands. But most of us have access to soap and running water and wash our hands many times a day.

I think if shaking hands was such a spreader of disease, then it would be very obvious that groups that don't normally shake hands are unusually healthy. Little kids rarely shake hands, and they're quite disease-ridden, as any parent can tell you.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
49. YOU'RE the one who wants everyone to not shake hands
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:21 PM
Jul 2015

because it spreads disease. Exactly who is accusing whom of being dirty?

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
119. Doesn't your OP accuse everyone of being dirty by default?
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 07:50 AM
Jul 2015

Seriously, what are you even talking about here? Good lord.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
46. Back when I was cooking short order, people would complain if I didn't change gloves
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:04 PM
Jul 2015

between every sandwich I made. Fair enough, I guess. But then they would touch money to pay for the sandwich and eat without washing their hands. The dirtiest place in a restaurant is always the till.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
22. I've heard that many times but it's the wrong message.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:45 PM
Jul 2015

The message should be for God's sake wash your hands through-out the day. Wash them before eating. Wash them after being outside. Wash them after the toilet. Pressing elevator buttons exposes one to germs, as do door handles, as do a million other things which we don't stop doing.


I know people who don't shake hands but never wash their hands before eating fast food. Me, I shake hands but the first place I go before I eat in a restaurant is the washroom to wash my hands, likewise when I get home - I don't do anything before washing my hands yet I know many people who never do that.

Hands collect germs. The safest thing is to keep washing the germs off over the course of a day.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
31. My supermarket has handwipes at the entrances/exits
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:56 PM
Jul 2015

Good for wiping your hands and the handle of your shopping cart!

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
41. They're a great idea but the child seat is probably more
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:18 PM
Jul 2015

dangerous than the handles what with all diapered butts that have occupied them.

A number of years ago 60 Minutes did a piece about germs in public areas. The most germy place really was surprising - movie seats. Even the scientists were shocked and said that they would never again wear shorts to a movie theater.

Ex Lurker

(3,814 posts)
29. What's the first thing you do when you leave the restroom?
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:53 PM
Jul 2015

Open the door, and most public restroom doors open to the inside, so you have to pull on the handle. They really ought to come up with a better way. It negates the act of washing your hands.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
38. I use the paper towel I used to dry my hands to open the door.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:09 PM
Jul 2015

If everyone washed their hands after using the toilet wouldn't be an issue. It is absolutely unreal that people still leave washrooms without washing.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
67. Ditto.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:15 PM
Jul 2015

I've been avoiding touching doorknobs since I was preparing for surgery and my boss, who is "never" sick, was going though another "not an illness," which he spread to everyone in the office. I managed to avoid it.

In the 5 years since then I've had no more than 4 mild bouts with a cold or the flu. Prior to that I had the cold (or flu) 2, often more, times a year.

In the winter it's easy since I just use my sleeves for protection. But in the summer I have to get creative with those bathrooms that don't have paper towels.

jonno99

(2,620 posts)
75. "I have to get creative" - I know what you mean. If someone were to watch me exit a bathroom
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:06 PM
Jul 2015

they would probably think I was a little OCD, cause I'll try (if I don't have my used towel - or sleeve) to grab the door handle where I think other folks are lest likely to grab it (e.g. at the top).

Of course if the door has a ROUND knob, I'm screwed!

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
113. We must be twins...
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 03:38 AM
Jul 2015

I use the bottom of my shirt, or the hem of my dress if they are loose and I don't have a towel or long enough sleeve. The crook of an elbow works for the lever handles many places have installed because of the ADA. And if I have nothing, I use the hand sanitizer I keep on my desk when I get back to my office.

So far, it is working well for close to 5 years.

jonno99

(2,620 posts)
137. I always wished I'd had a sister...sniff (I've got three brothers)....
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:05 AM
Jul 2015


Take care!
(and keep it clean! )
 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
66. Wash hands, dry with towel, use towel to open door, throw towel away.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:00 PM
Jul 2015

At least it works if the trash can is in reach of where I would throw the paper towel away.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
114. I'm protecting myself from the germs that are already there -
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 03:42 AM
Jul 2015

often from people who don't wash at all. What's on my hands to transfer to the towel to the door after a 20-30 second soapy wash with friction is nothing compared to the deposits left by people who wiped and ran.

If you're using a towel (fresh or used), it will protect you from whatever my towel transferred plus the TP to hand to door transfers. If you're not, it isn't my germs you have to worry about.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
71. That is why you should hang on to your paper towel, and use that to get the door open...
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:51 PM
Jul 2015

Then you crumble up the paper towel and "Air Jordan" it into the trash can!

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
82. Why not just wash them before you eat, and that's it?
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:18 PM
Jul 2015

Washing your hands every 20 minutes feet is like putting doormen on every floor of a highrise. Why not just put one guy at the front door and leave it at that?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
85. Because we keep touching our eyes, nose and mouth throughout the day.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:30 PM
Jul 2015

They did a study where they put a fine powder on people's hands. You couldn't feel it and couldn't see it, but it glowed when you shined a UV light on it.

Didn't matter if the people were told to not touch their face, or not told anything. Everyone's faces glowed under that UV light.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
164. And yet... even there disease and sickness are spread by (wait for it) shaking hands.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:35 PM
Jul 2015

And yet... even there disease and sickness are spread by (wait for it) shaking hands.

Hence, the rational mind realizes that if is a problem everywhere, it's not the melodramatic and petulant "First World Problem" labeled as such and as editorialized without any supporting evidence.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
163. Second rate response.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:32 PM
Jul 2015

Second rate response. No doubt, many people believe the prevention of sickness as a first world problem.

Only 31% of males wash their hands after using the bathroom, yet hand-washing reduces the number of people who get sick with diarrhea by 31%, reduces diarrhea illness in people with weakened immune systems by 58%, reduces respiratory illnesses, like colds, in the general population by 21%

http://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/hygiene/hand/handwashing-corporate.html

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
25. After we met at the door today, I promise NOT to try to shake your hand again
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:46 PM
Jul 2015

It was my mistake...I should have known better. I think we had a chat about it at happy hour a couple months back-

Please-

Forgive me

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
39. I think randy is having some fun playing devil's advocate
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:13 PM
Jul 2015

He's not dirty, he is just pleasantly warped and twisted.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
47. The only time my hands shake is when I've had too much alcohol the night before.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:16 PM
Jul 2015

But that rarely happens anymore now that I'm no longer a wild young party girl.

So, yes, I have pretty much stopped shaking hands.

You're welcome.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
53. I've shaken hands tens of thousands of times, with thousands of people. I'm fine.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:31 PM
Jul 2015

Don't worry, I won't shake yours.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
59. Should we bow?
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:50 PM
Jul 2015

Remember when Prez Obama was criticized for bowing to someone? I can't even remember what country he visited, but the wingers were in a fury over it. Funny, but they didn't get upset about the make out session between Bush and the Saudi royals.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
65. I love it
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:58 PM
Jul 2015

Connecting with people means more when there's some kind of physical expression, whether it's a handshake or something else. I'll happily risk getting your cooties.

jonno99

(2,620 posts)
78. Finally! thank you. In my circle of family and friends we're hand-shakers and huggers.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:14 PM
Jul 2015

If someone is sick they'll make the point and apologize - telling all that we should steer clear.

Otherwise, it's hugs for the ladies and firm (manly!) handshakes for the guys (and some hugs too )

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
156. I never did more hugging than when I first met other Vietnam vets
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 01:15 PM
Jul 2015

I'm talking hard combat Infantry, Rangers, Special Forces. What a bunch of touchy-feely wusses!

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
63. Sometimes you're forced to shake hands,
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:55 PM
Jul 2015

like when it's a business setting. What I'd do is wash my hands ASAP afterwards, then use a paper towel to turn off the sink and open the restroom door with.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
68. Just wash your hands,
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:21 PM
Jul 2015

unless you're the "Wicked Witch of the West" and you will melt if you come in contact with water.

I rarely get sick. I shake hands very frequently. I also wash my hands frequently and avoid bare skin contact with inanimate objects which don't care if I snub them. People sometimes do care. It is easier to take steps to protect yourself than it is to mend hurt feelings.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
73. I do not shake hands with you!
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:54 PM
Jul 2015

Is randy humorously channeling a notorious troll here? Magic 8-Ball says...

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
74. I'll just leave this here; "Cleanliness cues activate conservative attitudes"
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:00 PM
Jul 2015
http://www.psmag.com/books-and-culture/cleanliness-cues-activate-conservative-attitudes-29718

Their study, just published in the journal Psychological Science, brings together three interesting threads of recent psychological research:

1. The notion that environmental cues can influence political attitudes. One recent study found people who cast ballots in a church were more likely to support an initiative endorsed by social conservatives.

2. The deep symbolic nature of hand washing. Studies have found cleaning our hands helps us emotionally disconnect from past decisions, as well as increase feelings of moral superiority.

3. The strong link between social conservatism and the concept of purity. Studies have found conservatives are more easily disgusted than liberals, and that people who feel disgust tend to judge the moral transgressions of others more harshly.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
76. I always obey the restroom signs and clean my manlihood
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:08 PM
Jul 2015

I pity the poor suckers who have no Spanish and don't know what "Lave sus manos" means. Dumb suckers!

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
127. ROFLMAO!!!
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:43 AM
Jul 2015

Thread win!

Now THAT was funny! Pinboy, you just made a ridiculous thread sublime: Oh, and so we'll be, you know PC and stuff.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
81. I agree
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:18 PM
Jul 2015

I gather most people not agreeing don't get sick on a regular basis. When I get sick, I get bad lung infections and end up coughing for months and months afterward. Because of this, I'm a near-compulsive handwasher. I wash when I use the washroom. I wash when I do anything that involves touching pets, dirt, food (raw, or not), dog food/treats etc AND any time I come back from being in public, first thing I do in the door is wash my hands. I'll also use hand sanitizer after touching debit card machines if washing isn't possible.

And yes, I don't like shaking hands. My boss loves to shake hands. WE have a small office with 1 bathroom where you can hear everything outside. I never hear the water running after he does his business. urgh. My brother tells me about all the people at his work that don't wash their hands. It grosses us both out. And it's FAR more common than people think. I always wonder, if they think it's okay to not wash their hands after the bathroom, what else do they do without washing their hands?

Once, in university in one of my business classes, the prof made us shake hands with EVERYONE in the class. Twice. Let's just say a bunch of us broke out the hand sanitizer right after that, LOLOL. So I know I'm not alone on the ick factor.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
84. Since you have health issues
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:23 PM
Jul 2015

that can be very directly compromised by shaking hands with people who don't wash theirs, you should feel quite free to refuse to shake hands. Politely, of course. But a simple, "I'm sorry, I have a compromised immune system" should work for most people. And to hell with those who don't get it.

Another side factoid: Women did not routinely shake hands until about the mid-60's or so. I was born in 1948 (do the math) and when I was growing up and as a very young woman, it was not expected of me that I'd shake hands. By about 1970 or so that changed. If you watch older movies, it's quite interesting, because the women very, very rarely shake hands with men, and never with other women. Nowadays I personally find it a convenient form of greeting.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
86. There was a course during my microbiology degree
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:34 PM
Jul 2015

It was dubbed "the course that makes you terrified of touching anything". We were sent forth to gather samples from whatever surface we felt like, and then cultured it to see what grew.

Everything is covered in germs. We even got a hit on the distilled water.

Wash all you want. Shake all you want. Its really not going to make a difference unless you're treating a wound, or you currently have (or just touched someone with) a communicable disease.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
92. We are all POOP carriers!
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:57 PM
Jul 2015

We may as well just accept it and enjoy each other while we can, shaking hands and hugging and kissing and...OMG! Even WORSE!


Jane Austin

(9,199 posts)
101. Yesterday the exterminator came to set rat traps in my garage.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 01:18 AM
Jul 2015

When I opened the front door to him, He gave me a big, "Hi, I'm the exterminator," and he stuck out his hand for a shake.

I don't like shaking hands anyway, but the rat trap guy? Yuck.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
104. Getting their scent on you might just save your life
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 01:28 AM
Jul 2015

Why do you think the pest control guy is still alive?

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
107. Are you still alive?
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:26 AM
Jul 2015

If so, isn't that then more of a testament to the resiliency of the human body to resist any nefarious germs transferred to your hands from someone/something else?

Wear gloves if it bothers you so much. People probably won't want to shake your hand after just seeing you with latex gloves on

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
108. Gloves? We don't need no stinking gloves!
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:34 AM
Jul 2015


And you couldn't have a cleaner character than that for a testimonial!

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
116. Oh, I agree.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 04:13 AM
Jul 2015

Hugging is even worse for me and Americans insist on doing it, what is that about. Sometimes someone grabs you in a bear hug and I accidentally sexually harass them with my chest. I can't suck those in. I feel weird about that. I don't care for the European kissing thing, takes too long to make out with everyone if there's a group, and I'm not interested in getting close enough to smell anyone. I don't have phobias about germs or being touched, I just don't like it. Now, if it were some sort of grooming activity, like if you meet someone and they pick lint off your shirt or brush away dandruff or smooth down pieces of hair sticking out or something like that, fine. That would be nice.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
122. With a ceremonial dagger I slice my palm and that of my new acquaintance
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:10 AM
Jul 2015

And in the name of unity we clasp hands and mingle our lifeblood.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
123. Back to the casual blowjob it is, then.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:15 AM
Jul 2015

On the plus side, I get a lot of return business at the store that way. . .

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
129. Depends on who you interact with on a regular basis.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:58 AM
Jul 2015

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Bettie

(16,110 posts)
130. If you have a healthy immune system
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:02 AM
Jul 2015

shaking hands won't make you ill.

People need to be less fearful overall.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
131. Oh, for the love of the Jeebus.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:03 AM
Jul 2015
The reason we started shaking hands was to make sure the other person didnt have a weapon in his or her hand.


No. The reason people started shaking hands was to show others that they were not carrying a weapon, and could therefore be trusted. It's a sign of good faith, for crying out loud.

Shaking hands spreads disease, colds, flu, etc.


No. Shaking hands can spread disease. Often, it does not.

Stop it


No.




gollygee

(22,336 posts)
134. How often do you shake people's hands?
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:15 AM
Jul 2015

It doesn't seem to come up all that often, but when it's appropriate to shake hands, I do. If you touch stuff other people touch, you're getting germs on your hands too. Wash your hands regularly and you'll be fine.

LeftinOH

(5,354 posts)
136. I used to have a regional supervisor with a bone-crunching handshake.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:03 AM
Jul 2015

He first order of business was to crush/squeeze/clamp on the hand of everyone he encountered..especially his subordinates. My hand physically hurt after 'meeting' him every week.

Eventually, I found a way to avoid this: When I knew he was around, I made sure I was carrying a big box or some other bulky item - so that my hands were unavailable for shaking. I made sure our conversation was well underway before setting down the box - by which time he'd forget about his power play.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
139. Our entire world is teeming with bacteria and viruses.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:45 AM
Jul 2015

People who try to avoid contact with them are more likely to become ill than people who are constantly inoculated with them through contact. Not shaking hands is just the most obvious avoidance tactic. But every surface is covered with microorganisms, so you'll be exposed whether you shake hands or not.

Even frequent handwashing is not a reliable way to avoid contact with such organisms, since you will doubtless touch many surfaces shortly thereafter and contaminate your hands again. Washing your hands is a very good idea, but being obsessive about it is simply not going to work.

When colds and flu viruses are circulating in the population, you WILL be exposed to them, whether you shake hands or not, unless you avoid public places altogether. Get your flu shot. If you're older, get your pneumonia shot. Wash your hands if you have an opportunity to do so. Use hand sanitizer from time to time. But don't believe you won't be exposed to a wide variety of microorganisms. You will. It's inevitable. It cannot be avoided.

Me? I shake hands. It's a physical contact that helps create some sort of bond with people. I like that.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
140. Good post.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:52 AM
Jul 2015

Gyms are the worst places for germs, and I never shake hands with anyone there lol since it's not something one does in gyms.

But, I'm happy to have a strong immune system. I thank my parents because they never were those, "Get off the floor and don't eat that" type of parents. "You want to eat a mud-pie?" Go ahead, they would say.

I really don't even know the last time I was ill.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
143. I'm rarely ill, too. I practice normal hygiene,
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:58 AM
Jul 2015

but I'm far from obsessive about it. Like you, I was raised without being constantly reminded of how filthy the planet is. "Go wash your hands before you come to the table and after using the bathroom" was about it.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
159. At the gym they have spray bottles of disinfectant all over the place.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 01:51 PM
Jul 2015

I don't use it because it smells toxic and it's unnecessary. If I leave a perspiration spot, I wipe it with a towel. But some people use the disinfectant to the extreme and leave puddles on the gym equipment, which means I have to wipe it clean just to use it!

I wonder if these people shower after a workout.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
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Facility Inspector

(615 posts)
144. Nah
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:59 AM
Jul 2015

I come from a generation that played outside. In dirt. Without parental supervision.

Might have even eaten some lead paint chips too.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
146. You know those yummy donuts in the break room?
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 11:08 AM
Jul 2015

I touch each and every one of them when nobody is looking. More like poke them with my finger.

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
147. Selfies have replaced hand-shaking by politicians
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 11:10 AM
Jul 2015

Everyone in a crowd wants to take video or get a selfie instead of shaking hands, politicians are finding.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
148. Shaking hands is a sign of respect in my area of the world.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 11:15 AM
Jul 2015

When you are introduced to someone for the first time, it is polite to shake hands. To refuse would be seen as disrespectful.

Yes, by all means, wash your hands throughout the day - even after shaking hands with someone if you feel the need. But some exposure to germs, etc. is actually a good way for the body to develop the immune system. We do not live in a sterile world.

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