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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:22 PM Jul 2015

The black president some worried about has arrived

By Janell Ross July 15 at 12:08 PM

There's this thing people sometimes say down South.

So-and-so is "acting brand new." Sometimes that's a reference to someone behaving like they don't know old friends and family — that they have evolved past their old crowd. Sometimes that's Southern speak for the emboldened, someone behaving like they either don't know the rules or have outright decided to disregard them.

In the past four weeks, we've seen President Obama take up residence in a place that sits somewhere in-between.

He's spoken off the cuff about race relations on a widely circulated podcast (even using the n-word) and then eloquently followed that with what can only be described as a sermon on race relations in America before breaking into song. He's challenged America to go deeper in its support of equality than retiring symbols of slavery (like the Confederate flag) and impolitic words (like the n-word).

While eulogizing a slain minister and state lawmaker allegedly killed by a white supremacist in Charleston, S.C., he outlined a whole raft of ways in which discrimination remains and inequality continues to grow. And now he's gone and announced two major reform packages — housing last week and criminal justice on Tuesday — in the span of two weeks that could, if ultimately implemented, be of particular benefit to people of color in the United States.

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The black president some worried about has arrived (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2015 OP
President Superman. Accomplishing more than most ten combined. randys1 Jul 2015 #1
I am grateful for this president. oldandhappy Jul 2015 #2
No one "worried" about President Obama around here, he hasn't "changed in the past four weeks" Sunlei Jul 2015 #3
Blame the Washington Post nxylas Jul 2015 #32
Oh, let's face it The Traveler Jul 2015 #4
Spot on madokie Jul 2015 #9
Yes (and you said hella, lol) nt stopwastingmymoney Jul 2015 #11
Agree! mountain grammy Jul 2015 #20
^ BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2015 #21
Very true that President Obama has had unprecedented obstruction and maddiemom Jul 2015 #23
Oh, wait! LBJ. maddiemom Jul 2015 #25
Very good points The Traveler Jul 2015 #27
The term 'American Exceptionalism" has no better example justhanginon Jul 2015 #5
the most elegant Obama bumper sticker.... drthais Jul 2015 #6
That is a pretty classy graphic design. I'm not sure that it wouldn't justhanginon Jul 2015 #7
Sticker True Blue American Jul 2015 #22
I would too, if I still had the car. maddiemom Jul 2015 #24
Good! ellie Jul 2015 #8
So, the cheerleaders were right all along.. flamingdem Jul 2015 #10
Hell, I could have told you that three years ago DFW Jul 2015 #12
I've lived my entire life in the South Aerows Jul 2015 #13
The Black south ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #15
hear, hear! nt Stellar Jul 2015 #16
Anything remotely non-screamingly critical of the President is met with a ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #17
Hey, the truth is the light...moving right along! Stellar Jul 2015 #18
I thought he showed up in Jan 2009! MADem Jul 2015 #14
I believe the cops feel it's their duty to keep people in their place. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #19
He's definately best president of the last 30 years but let's not pretend that little show he put on craigmatic Jul 2015 #26
That little show in church, the one where he babylonsister Jul 2015 #31
I saw him play it up for the cameras. Every other time he's addressed blacks he talks down to us craigmatic Jul 2015 #33
Amazing Grace True Blue American Aug 2015 #36
"I know what I am doing, and I’m fearless," Obama said. Thank you so much, Don.. Cha Jul 2015 #28
He and his Administration have restored lovemydog Jul 2015 #29
The Cable Media True Blue American Aug 2015 #37
Yes, agreed. lovemydog Aug 2015 #38
You mean the president we all voted for... grahamhgreen Jul 2015 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author c588415 Jul 2015 #34
Woo Hoo libodem Jul 2015 #35

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
3. No one "worried" about President Obama around here, he hasn't "changed in the past four weeks"
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:35 PM
Jul 2015

He's the same great man elected as President in 2008.

 

The Traveler

(5,632 posts)
4. Oh, let's face it
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:39 PM
Jul 2015

I can't say I approve of everything he has done. I disagree with him passionately on some issues. Of course I do! I was never (as I was previously accused) an Obamabot. I'm a thinking individual, and a realist, and I do not expect the POTUS' thinking to always be in line with my own. (Of course, we'd all be better off if it were, right? ) For one example, I object strongly to the TPP and the manner in which it is being foisted on the American people, etc.

But I can't think of any President in my 59 years who has proven to be more effective ... and the country is by far the better for it. And his achievements were attained despite the ineptitude and belligerence of a legislative branch that is the wonder of the world. (Yep. The whole world is wondering why we haven't gathered pitchforks and torches so as to better apply tar and feathers.)

We may not have achieved anything like perfection of government under President Obama's leadership ... but we made hella progress at a time when progress was both difficult and desperately needed. No, he's not superhuman ... but there are moments when I almost lose track of that.

Helluva job, Mr. President.

Trav

**edited for grammatical cleanup** **Trav to self: Proof read before posting.**

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
23. Very true that President Obama has had unprecedented obstruction and
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:23 PM
Jul 2015

sheer ornery behavior from the Repugs (if 'n he's fer it, I'm agin it, though I used to be fer it). I suspect it won't be many decades before his presidency is historically regarded as an outrageous exception to "normal" government function and our fantasy of the majority of citizens having any real say. I hope I'm still around to see it.

Although I worked on Obama's local campaigns, he's disappointed me many times. Nonetheless, no president, no matter how much opposed, has had it tougher. Clinton disappointed me a lot. His pandering to the right didn't save him from impeachment, no matter how far-fetched the charges. The Republican party has become out of touch with the growing population, but is fighting like a cornered animal, mostly dependent on the big money billionaire donors who, sadly, have, in effect, thousands of votes versus "one citizen, one vote." Scott Walker is a current scary example since Ted Cruz got a bit over eager. Hoping the average, uninvolved and besieged citizens will REALLY pay attention to their own interests this time is our only real chance to begin turning things around.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
25. Oh, wait! LBJ.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:42 PM
Jul 2015

Not a lovable or ...highly esteemed president, but YET...He went out of his way, with all his considerable, politically well-honed powers, to fulfill the policies his administration had promised. Apparently hated Bobby Kennedy, who opposed him, but fulfilled, as best he could, the promises of the Democratic party at that time. Altruistic? I very much doubt it. An overall good guy? No. Mired too much in petty, obstructionist politics to take care of the nation's business? It didn't ever seem to overwhelm progress, on either side, so much before.

 

The Traveler

(5,632 posts)
27. Very good points
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 03:07 AM
Jul 2015

LBJ pushed it forward at that ever so critical moment ... but he knew the price. Dude made lots of mistakes ... but his achievement was massive. And we owe it to him not to let the country backslide now.

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
5. The term 'American Exceptionalism" has no better example
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:48 PM
Jul 2015

than our President Barack Obama and his family. I still have my Obama Biden sticker in my back window and there it will stay in perpetuity. I will probably add other campaign stickers but that one stays to show everybody my pride in having voted for them twice.
I'm an old white guy and if someone had told me seventy odd years ago that I would be voting for a black president I probably would have laughed. Glad it turned out as it did and turned out so well.

drthais

(870 posts)
6. the most elegant Obama bumper sticker....
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:10 PM
Jul 2015
?color=White&height=460&width=460&qv=90
I have one of these on my bumper -it's been there since 2008 - a little faded now, but an excellent antidote to the 'W' stickers at the time...

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
7. That is a pretty classy graphic design. I'm not sure that it wouldn't
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 08:24 PM
Jul 2015

look out of place in the back window of my '97 Mercury Tracer wagon. Damn car may outlast me.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
22. Sticker
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 04:17 AM
Jul 2015

I have my Love Obamacare and Thank FDR for SS a in my back window, nd have seen some shocked people. I smile at them when they ask me and answer," That is right!b End of any discussion.

I never knew President Clinton was on his Council until he said so so he has had three brilliant minds. His own,the two Clinton's. Now,we have Bernie, Elizabeth, Sherrod Brown, Al Frankenstein and many more on our side.

What about a Clinton/ Sanders team? We could get President Obama and Joe Biden to work behind the scenes.

What about that group? Joe is compassionate, Obama cool and collected. Think how they could change this Country!

Any suggestions here?

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
24. I would too, if I still had the car.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:55 PM
Jul 2015

And VP Biden! Having been interested in national politics before I was old enough to vote, and involved locally for decades, I was first aware of Biden, then in Congress, on a serious political talk show discussing the possibility of running for president only if several other Democrats that he really supported did not jump in. Not sure of the show, but think it was in the Reagan/Bush I era. He appeared to be an extremely knowledgeable, calm, sane man. Wanting his party to have a good candidate, rather than just push himself forward, blew my mind!
The Republicans have done an amazing job of negating him as a buffoon since he's an easy, open, humorous man, not always guarded and on script. He was too gracious a gentleman (not hard if you weren't just mean) to Sarah Palin in the first VP debate. Why was anyone surprised that he mopped the floor with Paul Ryan? (Fox disagreed, I know). Would I want him to run for president this time? NO, despite family sentimentality. His time has, sadly passed. Like Jimmy Carter, however, I'm sure he has much to contribute otherwise.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
12. Hell, I could have told you that three years ago
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:01 PM
Jul 2015

Except that the WH made me promise at the time to not talk about details (campaign season and all):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125170848

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
13. I've lived my entire life in the South
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:05 PM
Jul 2015

The DEEP SOUTH.

and this is a train wreck of an article right here.

"Acting brand new"? Which South are you in, author? South of nowhere?

Goodness gracious.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
15. The Black south ...
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 12:29 PM
Jul 2015

the writer of the piece is African-American.

And, as anecdotal as this may be, I don't know a single African-American that is not familiar with that term.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
17. Anything remotely non-screamingly critical of the President is met with a ...
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 03:58 PM
Jul 2015

the same seemingly reflexive responses, by the same folks ... even when they do not understand what the F@$% the article is about.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
14. I thought he showed up in Jan 2009!
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:13 PM
Jul 2015

And he wasn't my first choice, either, but I rolled with it and came to appreciate him. Once he put his hand in the air and took that oath, I made it my particular point to have the man's back, and I'm glad I did. The last two terms have been great--it's nice to not have to wake up in the morning with a sick feeling, wondering if you're going to be recalled to active duty because some moron has started World War Three!

There are so many reasons to appreciate that guy!

On issues of race, there's one thing I hope he never does--and that's invite Tavis over for lunch. The way that guy has dissed him, he can just stay on the other side of the fence.

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
26. He's definately best president of the last 30 years but let's not pretend that little show he put on
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:11 PM
Jul 2015

in that church was anything more than that-a show. Also he's not impressing me by just now with over a year and change left in office by just now talking about black issues. He lost the congress and he's running out of time and now he wants to do for blacks. Too little too late.

babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
31. That little show in church, the one where he
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jul 2015

stood up to represent 9 dead people, speaking of grace and healing? That was no show to me, it was heartfelt. I wonder what you watched.

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
33. I saw him play it up for the cameras. Every other time he's addressed blacks he talks down to us
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 05:00 PM
Jul 2015

about pulling ourselves up by the bootstraps but he's used his exec power to sign orders for gays and latinos. I'm not impressed. If he wanted to impress me he'd declare an end to the drug war and release its prisoners but he won't because on some level he wants to prop up the system. Not to mention that everytime he talks about black individuals he's quick to condemn like he did with Kanye, Bernie Mack, and Bill Cosby there's not even that thoughtful pause he usually talks with.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
36. Amazing Grace
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 03:52 PM
Aug 2015

I have watched that video several times. It was the best display I have ever seen out of a President. All that empathy was lost on the pundits. They still attacked his voice. Made me wonder if they croaked like a frog when they try to sing

Cha

(297,304 posts)
28. "I know what I am doing, and I’m fearless," Obama said. Thank you so much, Don..
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 05:09 AM
Jul 2015

also from your link..

"Here's the thing: This Obama might look or sound "brand new" to some Americans. He might even sound a little something like the black president some white Americans across the political spectrum feared (or hoped[ /I] But to people who watch the White House closely, this is the President Obama who has been developing for some time."

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
29. He and his Administration have restored
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 06:10 AM
Jul 2015

the popularity of progressivism at home and diplomacy abroad. His harshest critics from the right have been hateful, from the left dumb as doorknobs. I'm glad he's pushing major reform of housing and criminal justice. I think he will be successful because they make sense in terms of saving money and doing what's right.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
37. The Cable Media
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 07:55 AM
Aug 2015

Share much of the blame for the hate of this President. It is a never ending rant day after day. They lie,edit videos.

It is really sad.

When Al Gore sold his Current TV station to AJ, companies did everything they could do to keep them off the air. TW took the station off the very next day. Then,after thousands of complaints from unhappy customers they had to put it back on.

Cable companies are bleeding customers already.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
38. Yes, agreed.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 10:27 AM
Aug 2015

I've noticed that people who watch a lot of cable media (I wouldn't call it news) seem more anxious and hostile, too.

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