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Omaha Steve

(99,678 posts)
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 08:24 AM Jul 2015

The holy grill: A guilt-free superfood that tastes like bacon





http://cnnphilippines.com/lifestyle/2015/07/18/guilt-free-dulse-superfood-tastes-like-bacon.html

(CNN) — Food lovers might no longer have to choose between tastiness and healthiness.

As will be familiar to anyone miserably chewing through leaf after leaf of kale in a beleaguered attempt to shed a few pounds, it's hard to banish thoughts of cheeseburgers, pizza or — many a dieters' Achilles' heel — bacon.

But some of those cravings, at least, might soon be banished, if researchers at Oregon State University are correct.

Chris Langdon, a researcher at OSU's Hatfield Marine Science Center, has along with colleagues created and patented a new strain of dulse, a red seaweed which boasts amazing nutritional benefits.

FULL story at link.
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The holy grill: A guilt-free superfood that tastes like bacon (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jul 2015 OP
Taste maybe, texture is probably way different. hobbit709 Jul 2015 #1
Taste is good, but texture also matters. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #2
Okra is one many avoid because of the slimy texture. alfredo Jul 2015 #7
Okra on the grill with a little olive oil isn't slimy. loudsue Jul 2015 #12
My favorite is to snack on them while watering the garden. alfredo Jul 2015 #15
oooohhhh...... daleanime Jul 2015 #17
If after cooking orca has a slimy texture it has not been cooked right, or from frozen. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #19
It makes a great thickener in soups and stews alfredo Jul 2015 #21
Thus gumbo. Aerows Jul 2015 #43
And groundnut is the name for the peanut. alfredo Jul 2015 #44
Mine is never slimy malaise Jul 2015 #33
I love it raw, right off the plant. alfredo Jul 2015 #36
I'll try it malaise Jul 2015 #39
So good and crunchy. alfredo Jul 2015 #41
If it really tastes like bacon, I'll try it. And it won't taste EXACTLY like bacon, and I'll avoid Shrike47 Jul 2015 #3
I just do not understand the attraction bacon holds CBGLuthier Jul 2015 #4
We don't eat pork or red meat malaise Jul 2015 #34
salt, fat, mouthfeel, aroma hit that sweet spot for me. I rarely eat it. alfredo Jul 2015 #42
Go on the Atkins diet. Eat all the bacon you want. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #5
There are other reasons not to eat bacon mucifer Jul 2015 #6
Atkins MJJP21 Jul 2015 #8
Ketosis! It's not a bug. It's a feature! n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #9
I lost a lot of weight on a diet that chopped out carbs and replaced them with (less) fat and Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #11
I took off 40 lbs in 2 months on it. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #13
50 lb gone in a year GliderGuider Jul 2015 #28
He died at 72 after he slipped on the icy pavement and fell. Those who actually knew him, knew that. pnwmom Jul 2015 #38
north American lack an enzyme to digest seaweed. alfredo Jul 2015 #10
They acquired those bacteria by eating seaweed. drm604 Jul 2015 #18
Not sure how long that will take. alfredo Jul 2015 #31
My Alma Mater! SoapBox Jul 2015 #14
Soylent Red!! SCVDem Jul 2015 #16
"OSU had developed this variety that can be farmed, with the potential for a new industry for Oregon Scuba Jul 2015 #20
I hope this stuff hits the shelves soon Warpy Jul 2015 #22
I've heard this claim before. We'll see. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #23
soooo gmo food is fine here if it tastes like bacon? dembotoz Jul 2015 #24
There are smoked Seaweed products in Asian Markets Ligyron Jul 2015 #25
There is already a healthy superfood that tastes like bacon. It's called... GliderGuider Jul 2015 #26
I thought you were going to talk about bad neighbors. hunter Jul 2015 #29
Once it's in the pot, it's all just stew... GliderGuider Jul 2015 #30
Many still depend on protein from the forest floor. alfredo Jul 2015 #35
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #27
i will take a plate restorefreedom Jul 2015 #32
Some people make bacon a religion.... Bigmack Jul 2015 #37
I won;t eat pork of any kind because pigs should be treated with kindness. Vattel Jul 2015 #40
Is it genetically engineered? roody Jul 2015 #45

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. Taste is good, but texture also matters.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 08:29 AM
Jul 2015

There are foods I won't eat whole, because of texture issues, but I'm perfectly fine with if they've been thrown through a blender so that I can no longer feel that same texture.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
12. Okra on the grill with a little olive oil isn't slimy.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 09:31 AM
Jul 2015

Grill it with a little garlic powder, it's awesome. Leave the little stem on so you can pick it up with your fingers. You can grill a lot of your summer garden veggies that way, or with just salt & pepper, and you will think you're in veggie heaven.

malaise

(269,103 posts)
33. Mine is never slimy
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:41 PM
Jul 2015

We cut it up and stir fry it in a little olive oil and then add to a variety of dishes.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
3. If it really tastes like bacon, I'll try it. And it won't taste EXACTLY like bacon, and I'll avoid
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 08:40 AM
Jul 2015

Sometimes scientists and marketeers seem to come from Mars.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
4. I just do not understand the attraction bacon holds
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 08:45 AM
Jul 2015

I seldom eat it. I prefer sausage but I don't eat that often either but bacon as an ingredient does nothing for me.

I very seldom think about any of the foods I no longer eat. Too many wonderful healthy vegetarian meals in the Indian food canon to explore.

mucifer

(23,557 posts)
6. There are other reasons not to eat bacon
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 09:06 AM
Jul 2015

Animal suffering and environmental sustainability are the two big ones that come to mind for me.

 

MJJP21

(329 posts)
8. Atkins
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 09:09 AM
Jul 2015

Atkins was way overweight when he died and those who knew him said his diet killed him. The evidence is pretty clear on eating a diet loaded with meat and fat. It isn't good.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
11. I lost a lot of weight on a diet that chopped out carbs and replaced them with (less) fat and
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 09:16 AM
Jul 2015

protein. I also kinda buggered up my kidneys in the process, and I've got gout now, so I have to limit my protein intake.

Moderation is important in all things, even in trying ways to 'trick' your body into losing weight.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
13. I took off 40 lbs in 2 months on it.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 09:47 AM
Jul 2015

And my labs came back from the doctor. Lower cholesterol, triglycerides, and BP. And it stays off, as long as you eliminate or minimize sugar and grains.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
28. 50 lb gone in a year
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 06:36 PM
Jul 2015

Blood lipids and BP normalized. Mood swings - gone. GERD - gone. Edema in my extremities - gone.

I dumped all major starches, sugars and alcohol. 80% of my calories come from meat, eggs and animal fats, the rest from non-starchy vegetables. I eat about a pound of bacon a day.

The idea that an animal-based diet is universally unhealthy is bullshit. Moral and ecological issues are another story though. You won't kill yourself by eating meat, but you will help kill the planet. That's something that each of us has to come to terms with for themselves, and a lot of your decision (like it was for me) depends on how unhealthy a starch- and sugar-based diet is for you.

pnwmom

(108,988 posts)
38. He died at 72 after he slipped on the icy pavement and fell. Those who actually knew him, knew that.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:04 PM
Jul 2015

He also wasn't fat. During his final hospital stay, while in a coma, he gained 63 pounds due to fluid retention, which had nothing to do with his diet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Atkins_(nutritionist)
Heart attack[edit]
Atkins suffered a cardiac arrest in April 2002, leading many of his critics to point to this episode as proof of the inherent dangers in the consumption of high levels of saturated fat associated with the Atkins diet. In numerous interviews, however, Atkins stated that his heart attack was not the result of poor diet, but was rather caused by a chronic infection.[9] Atkins' personal physician and cardiologist, Dr. Patrick Fratellone, confirmed this assertion, saying, "We have been treating this condition, cardiomyopathy, for almost two years. Clearly, [Atkins'] own nutritional protocols have left him, at the age of 71, with an extraordinarily healthy cardiovascular system". According to reports on CNN at the time of Atkins' convalescence, Dr. Clyde Yancy, a cardiologist at theUniversity of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas and a member of the American Heart Association's national board of directors reported that "despite the obvious irony, I believe there is a total disconnect between [Atkins'] cardiac arrest and the health approach he popularizes".[14]
Death[edit]

On April 8, 2003, at age 72, Atkins fell on an icy pavement in New York, suffering severe head trauma. He spent nine days in intensive care before dying on April 17, 2003, from complications from his head injury.[15][16]

Dr. Patrick Fratellone treated Dr. Atkins from 1999 until 2002, and also worked with the doctor at the Atkins Center. He says Atkins suffered from cardiomyopathy, a chronic heart weakness. But this condition, he says, was caused by a virus—not his diet: “I was his attending cardiologist at that time. And I made the statement… When we did his angiogram, I mean, the doctor who performed it, said it's pristine for someone that eats his kind of diet… Pristine, meaning these are very clean arteries. I didn't want people to think that his diet caused his heart muscle – it was definitely a documented viral infection.”[17]

A medical report issued by the New York medical examiner's office a year after his death showed that Atkins had a history of heart attack, congestive heart failure and hypertension. It also noted that he weighed 258 pounds (117 kilograms) at death, but Dr. Atkins weighed 195 pounds (88 kilograms) the day after he entered the hospital following his fall; he gained 63 pounds (29 kilograms) from fluid retention during the nine days he was in a coma before he died.[15][18]

alfredo

(60,075 posts)
10. north American lack an enzyme to digest seaweed.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 09:14 AM
Jul 2015

evolution at work.

http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2010/04/japanese-guts-are-made-sushi

Americans don't have the guts for sushi. At least that's the implication of a new study, which finds that Japanese people harbor enzymes in their intestinal bacteria that help them digest seaweed--enzymes that North Americans lack. What's more, Japanese may have first acquired these enzymes by eating bacteria that thrive on seaweed in the open ocean.

Mirjam Czjzek didn't set out to compare cross-cultural eating habits. Instead, the chemist at the Station Biologique de Roscoff, on the coast of Brittany in France, was interested in what it takes to digest a piece of seaweed. Unlike in land plants, the carbohydrates that make up seaweed are spangled with molecules of sulfur, so special enzymes are needed to break them down.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
18. They acquired those bacteria by eating seaweed.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 11:04 AM
Jul 2015

I would think the same thing would happen with North Americans.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
20. "OSU had developed this variety that can be farmed, with the potential for a new industry for Oregon
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 11:21 AM
Jul 2015

Dear Scott Walker, This is what you're tryint to kill in our University of Wisconsin, you dumb fuck!!!

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
22. I hope this stuff hits the shelves soon
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 02:13 PM
Jul 2015

I can see drying it and crumbling it into salads, cooking it with green beans, maybe even making BLTs with it. I haven't eaten real bacon since I was about 30, couldn't handle the grease and salt. Something with the flavor but not the grease and salt will be very welcome.

I doubt bacon lovers will be terribly impressed by it.

Ligyron

(7,637 posts)
25. There are smoked Seaweed products in Asian Markets
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 02:34 PM
Jul 2015

I've tried a few and they were eatable, but the salt and in some cases, overdoses of that and sesame oil kinda outdid the health factor to a large degree.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
26. There is already a healthy superfood that tastes like bacon. It's called...
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 02:43 PM
Jul 2015

Bacon.

But you have to work on the "guilt-free" part yourself. It might help to know that the idea that bacon (and meats in general) are unhealthy is nothing but ideology and propaganda.

Humans evolved eating meat, FFS.

Evidence for Meat-Eating by Early Humans

The first major evolutionary change in the human diet was the incorporation of meat and marrow from large animals, which occurred by at least 2.6 million years ago.

Oh, it's the nitrates and nitrites that are unhealthy? Well, why didn't you say so?

The Nitrate and Nitrite Myth: Another Reason Not To Fear Bacon

It may surprise you to learn that the vast majority of nitrate/nitrite exposure comes not from food, but from endogenous sources within the body. (1) In fact, nitrites are produced by your own body in greater amounts than can be obtained from food, and salivary nitrite accounts for 70-90% of our total nitrite exposure. In other words, your spit contains far more nitrites than anything you could ever eat.

The only sensible reason not to eat bacon IMO is a moral revulsion against CAFOs.

hunter

(38,322 posts)
29. I thought you were going to talk about bad neighbors.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 07:01 PM
Jul 2015

I'm always fearful that some of my not-so-distant distant Northern European ancestors, in very harsh times, would look upon their fatter bad neighbors as bacon...



It's part of the human heritage, of a survivor people living in rough unstable environments.

After the family dogs have been eaten, everyone outside family is game.





 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
30. Once it's in the pot, it's all just stew...
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 07:17 PM
Jul 2015

RICKETY TICKETY TIN
Tom Lehrer


About a maid I'll sing a song ……… sing rickety tickety tin
About a maid I'll sing a song who didn't have her family long
Not only did she do them wrong,
She did very one of them in, them in, she did every one of them in.

One day when she had nothing to do……… sing rickety tickety tin
One day when she had nothing to do she cut her baby brother in two
And served him up as an irish stew, and invited the neighbours in,
'bours in, invited the neighbours in...

alfredo

(60,075 posts)
35. Many still depend on protein from the forest floor.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:58 PM
Jul 2015

Grubs and insects are easy to gather and are packed with protein.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
32. i will take a plate
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:37 PM
Jul 2015

been veg for 30 years and i would love a "b" lt. grilled tempeh with smoked flavoring is a good option but i would definitely try this. and seaweed is really healthy.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
40. I won;t eat pork of any kind because pigs should be treated with kindness.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 06:47 AM
Jul 2015

But I am always looking for something that tastes as good as pork.

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